r/Wigan • u/KurtAffair21 • 6d ago
Anyone seen this? He should be replaced as the candidate if this is true
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u/Morganx27 6d ago
It's almost like Reform don't have our best interests at heart. Shocker.
Tell the people what they want to hear, and do your best to appeal only to those who are too stupid to verify your claims. It helps if they're stupid enough to believe Nigel Farage is a man of the people.
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u/Less-Swordfish-7220 5d ago
Famously from history . For propaganda to work you need to target the least intelligent in society . Keep the message simple . Tell them what they want to hear and Omit the truth .
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u/Fun_Way1173 6d ago
You know you are dealing with scum when the "Wigan Reform" page are giving 👍🏻 on Facebook comments about "pitty it wasn't Nandy" when someone queried why there was a by election - it's because the previous councillor died.
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u/ConsiderationMurky29 6d ago
Seems so, being listed by a "lobster lettings". Looking on companies house Mr Lee Moffitt took over as "a person with significant control" on the 8th January 2024.
I would love to say that I am shocked but I really am not. The reform party is a joke and will do none of the things they claim they will, just a bunch of chancers fooling the uneducated or ignorant. He will probably still win too which just shows where we are as a society.
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u/Willywonka5725 6d ago
I can't wait for one of these reform idiots to knock on my door during election time. Absolute Muppets that spout nothing but bullshit, and then people are surprised when they turn out to be talking bullshit.
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u/Banksyyy_ 5d ago
They were round corner from my house with one of their stands the other month as cars kept beeping at them which made me go have a look and a guy looked shocked when I said I weren't voting for reform under any circumstance. Granted Labour and the Tories failed us but Reform can and will do much worse with their current track record.
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u/TumbleweedDeep4878 5d ago
My husband is an immigrant and I like when they try and get our vote. He's a 'good' immigrant but if you come for one you come for all in our book
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u/WesternRest1124 5d ago
So your legal immigrant husband is the same as the men coming that are 22x more likely to commit sexual violence?
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u/WesternRest1124 5d ago
I mean there is a 100% guarantee that you’ll be dossing on your sofa when they do knock
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u/Klatterbyne 6d ago
A Cuntocratic (Cuntry of the Cunts, for the Cunts, by the Cunts) official turns out to be a Cunt? Who’d have thought?!?!?
In other news, The Leopards Eating Faces Party may not have the best interests of your face in mind.
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u/Evestrogen 6d ago
Sadly, this doesn't surprise me, since so many of their candidates turn out to be failures, opportunists, cranks, and convicts.
I deeply dislike Labour for a lot of other reasons but I'd much rather have their local branches running the council than the absolute disaster we'll endure with Reform. Given the huge cuts to finances over the last 15 years, I actually think Wigan Council has done a fairly good job in the circumstances.
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u/devoteddonkey 6d ago
There are SO many HMO's in Wigan - I have a friend who lives in Whitworth and they were 'threatened' with ONE hmo being built and they protested/petitioned to the point it was stopped in its tracks...
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u/deicist 6d ago
There's one going through planning now, turning a lovely 5 bed family home at the bottom of Eccleston street into a 12(!) bed HMO.
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u/felix3322 5d ago
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/162170144
This one? if so such a shame. What a great historic house
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u/lancashirehotpots 5d ago
A lot of them are developed by people outside of wigan looking to make money. Sure wigan council were giving out ridiculous grants to encourage investment in the area, especially in the town centre.
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u/Important-Zebra-69 6d ago
Rules and mortality are for other people, these are money and power sniffers they have no morals they don't care for anyone else they don't really dislike migration it's just useful for them they lie until it's believed. Perhaps we will learn this before they eat our faces, perhaps not.
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
I agree and I am not advocating for anyone burning down and residents buildings holding people that’s barbaric and idiotic
A full nation strike is the way I agree but people are struggling as it is and live hand to mouth making this extremely difficult so nothing will ever happen to get this going George Carlin did a stand up show called The Big Club I watch this and dream things would change but they never will
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u/Caveman-Dave722 3d ago
So he is selling it to be fair🤣
Not a reform voter or supporter. But he’s getting rid of his own
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u/Jealous-Rice4347 6d ago
The whole party should be replaced for a party who is not only nonces serving the elite, tbh
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u/scottmorris39 5d ago
Looks like he's saying it's bullshit.
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u/KurtAffair21 5d ago
I've been doing some digging after seeing this. It's his property company that is handling the sale of two HMOs...
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u/WhatsGoingOnThen 5d ago
So it is bullshit then. If you are going to post bullshit about people, at least make it accurate, otherwise like in this case it’s you who looks like the nob.
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u/KurtAffair21 5d ago
Should a company he runs be profiting from something he says he wants to see less of?
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u/sneakyhopskotch 5d ago
That’s not the point. If you’re gonna criticise someone for lying, don’t manipulate the truth to suit you - it only discredits your originally valid argument. It looks like you found it out after but should have checked before posting. (But in answer to your question, of course not)
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u/little_alien2021 2d ago
To be fair the op said he has hmo for sale, not he owns hmo, he does have them for sale on his company. So he's right he didn't lie or change anything.
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u/Maxxxmax 5d ago
Fuck reform and pretty much everything they stand for, but I don't see an issue.
Man is playing the game with the rules as they are, while arguing that they should be different. I may want the warhammer 10e rules changed, but I still play it with the rules as they are.
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u/BigCKai 3d ago
Just looked this up here - https://x.com/reformexposed/status/1963193995238031670
Doesn't say anything about him owning a HMO you liar.
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
Why not give it a try why stick to the same two parties who do nothing for us
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u/Super_Seff 6d ago
You have the Green Party and “Your Party” and have decided to go for the hypocritical racist party instead?
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u/Morganx27 6d ago
Twist to a third party who will do nothing for us?
Which party am I describing?
- Full of liars
- Full of idiots
- Full of fascistic scumbags
- No desire to benefit the country
- No actionable plan to benefit the country
Trick question! It's Reform, Tories, AND Labour!
All of the major politicians in the UK would gladly drown you in a lake if they thought it'd add £150 to their bank balance.
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
So what would your options be having said this What’s your choice?
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u/Morganx27 4d ago
There's not really a party that fits my values. Green is probably closest, or Lib Dem, but they both have a lot of issues. Obviously everyone's entitled to their own opinions and they may not match your values, but I think on balance for me they're the closest options.
But, let me tell you a fun piece of information: if you spoil your ballot, the candidates all have to check and see that one preference isn't marked more clearly than another. So they all have to read what you've written, and you can write exactly what you think of them. That's the option I usually take.
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u/EstablishmentReal156 6d ago
Reform will be in power, probably for just 1 term. They'll have 4 years to sort out the invasion problem and the problem with the alphabet syndrome brigade currently encouraging kids to lop off tits and dicks and pretend to be unicorns. If by some miracle they manage to make good progress and the economy doesn't tank more than usual, then maybe they'll get another go. There are absolutely some repugnant types in their ranks. They are career politicians. What do you expect? Honesty and dignity? Dream on.
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u/Neat_Significance256 3d ago
Farridge can't even be an MP, never mind PM.
All he'll ever be is an agitator.
If there were no illegal immigration he'd have absolutely nothing to say
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
Can’t be any worse than labour they have ruined Wigan
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u/SuccessfulWar3830 6d ago
What's funny is that the regetting trump voters said the same thing about America.
Now look at it.
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
Exactly zero illegal entry in over 3 months
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u/SuccessfulWar3830 6d ago
Firstly we all know he's lying about that.
Secondly america is such a hostile shithole now where civilians go on hunts for people they suspect as migrants. All immigrant is down.
Also if you wanna live in a far right wing shithole where legal citizens are intentionally made illegal. You can leave for 1940s Germany.
Now Americans are calling for all 55 million Latino people to be deported.
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
Firstly no I don’t want all immigrants rounded up that is not right immigration has done a lot for this country and I have no problem with people of any creed or race coming to Britain for a better life but this must be done through the correct process LEGAL routes
Secondly I am against ILEGAL. entry into the uk as this not only puts a burden on the local communities we know nothing about these people and there backgrounds also this is an insult to the immigrants who can through legal means and pay tax
Lastly I will not be told to go live in 1940s Germany because of these views and be labelled racist for standing up the country have had enough now it’s time for REFORM
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u/SuccessfulWar3830 6d ago
You ain't racist but are voting for the racism party.
Every week a new reform member gets caught talking about murdering migrants or some patriot attacks a Muslim person. Where are the corbyn lot doing the same thing.
You have been tricked. The reason we are worse off in this country is the mega rich not people wanting a better life. These mega corporations literally steal from us and you don't care you just wanna blame the brown guy for all your problems.
This is why right wing politics is easy to follow. Just point out the bad guy and beat him up. And when that doesn't slove your material conditions move onto the next group.
When will you learn?
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
So what do you suggest ? How do I learn? Keep voting for the same old shit ? Vote a party in then they blame successive governments over and over again whilst nothing changes?
I never mentioned anyone’s skin colour but this seems to be your default setting maybe it’s you who has the problem.
I like many want change in the 2 party system that has failed the country Maybe if they listed to the people of the country for a change people wouldn’t feel ignored
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u/SuccessfulWar3830 6d ago edited 6d ago
Farage is quite literally in america right now holding a speech to claim that europe is under attack. He has spent more time in america than in the place he was actually elected to government he is a charlatan. A confidence man.
I didnt vote labour. They gutted their own party and do not stand for anything related to actual labourers or workers. Which is what they are supposed to be. Tories are just as bad. Who was the countries top trader when Rishi was in power? His wife. How about that? And its the same thing in America. A country farage wants to model the uk after. Farage wants the insurance only based healthcare system. Americans dont live for as long as we do as a result of this and millions of americans dont have access to any healthcare as a result.
A vote for farage is a vote for the same old shit. He broke the country with brexit and is now pushing similar lies that he told back then to push a narrative now that some how a few asylum seekers are somehow causing every problem in society and all these protests that support him were directly organised by neo nazis. Lest we forget.
If you want a real person to listen to is Mick Lynch. A union boss. He actually tells you who is the issue. Its the ones with the money. Unionisation is the only way that workers regain control of the wealth that they make for those who reap all the profits while we all earn piss all. Tories, Labour and Reform all want to keep the current system in shape. They dont wanna rock the boat. Farage recently said that he would pay the taliban to accept people back. We have politicians talking about funding terrorist groups now.
Here is a clear example of the rich stealing from us. Unpaid Britian reports that every year £1.3 billion wages go unpaid each year and that £1.8 billion of holiday goes unpaid also. That equates to 2 million workers in this country.
Some of the their methods are;
· Failing to pay accrued holiday pay on workers’ departure.
· Workers regularly “losing” an hour or two per week in pay.
· Employers disappearing while owing wages (known as “knocking” in the construction industry).
· Employers dissolving a company which owes wages in order to start up afresh with a new company (“phoenixing”).
· Dispute over the interpretation of contracts, for example the payment of travelling time for care workers.
· Building up arrears in pay keeping workers in place when they might otherwise move on to other jobs, so the practice is effectively labour hoarding.
· Charging workers for uniforms or other necessary items in order to be able to perform their duties.
Methods to prevent this;
· Making HMRC responsible for paying workers identified NMW arrears, and then collecting them from the employer.
· Developing systems for informing student workers of their rights, and assisting them in their enforcement.
· Requiring employers to deposit a financial bond or take out insurance to guarantee workers’ wages.
· Introducing deterrent penalties for employers’ failure to provide paid holidays or payslips.
· Stronger sanctions against directors considered to have deliberately failed to pay
· Empower unions to take up cases on behalf of groups of workers (for example challenging sham self-employed contracts).
Its the rich stealing from you. Dont vote for the man who shills multiple products.
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
I agree the super wealthy are stealing our money but how do we tackle that how do people get together and stop it
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u/SuccessfulWar3830 6d ago
Well burning down hotels aint gonna do much. Thats a distraction which if you follow the money about who is spreading lies to comes back to the mega rich. Facebook for example promotes right wing content over anything else.
You have to organise and make demands in order to prevent exploitation. Work stoppages are the most effective way to get your message across. Strikes. General Strikes are even better. The government must regulate these businesses and if we are bailing out businesses the people should then either fully or in part those businesses. It was our money after all.
And sometimes if they truely never listen then more drastic action is required. But that can be avoided and is a last resort.
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u/Interesting_Nobody41 5d ago
Not sure listening to the people of the country is a good idea, that tends to end in disaster.
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u/Icy-Opportunity6993 6d ago
You chat absolute horse shit and just pedal leftie talking points and claim that it’s only the other side who’s been tricked. Carry on looking down your nose at the very people you leftie pricks claim to represent and wonder why reform will win the next election because the majority of voters just do not want what you and ‘the Corbyn lot’ are selling. Sanctimonious leftie tosser.
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u/SuccessfulWar3830 6d ago
Removing all migrants wont make you richer. And Farage removing the NHS wont make you healthy.
Just so you know.
If you have any actual convictions then we can discuss them. But if you are just gonna get upset then whats the point of even replying? You are clearly upset but it doesnt seem to even know why.
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u/scottmorris39 6d ago
What if they just change all the laws so that there's no such thing as illegal entry, will you be happy then?
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
Would you?
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u/scottmorris39 6d ago
Nope. But then I'm against a lot of legal migration as well.
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u/SuccessfulWar3830 6d ago
You gonna work at the NHS? You got a medical degree?
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u/scottmorris39 6d ago
No and no, bog standard job as it happens.
How many people are the NHS taking on that we need half a million people coming to this country every year 🤔
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
Ah right fair enough I can’t say I agree there I’m afraid immigrants have made this country a better place in a lot of ways
ILEGAL routes are not the right way full applications need to be submitted and vetted. Nothing wrong with thinking this way it’s a sensible approach. If you got in a boat and went in the opposite direction what do you think would happen? Yes that’s right you will have committed a crime trying to enter a country illegally and sent back so what’s the difference?
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u/Satesh400 4d ago
Look, separate to all the other stuff, when you say you don't want all immigrants rounded up, voting Reform is the first damned step to exactly that happening. It's MAGA circa 2015. Voting for them will drag our politics further into the new American way.
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u/Mental_Potential7987 3d ago
Highly doubt if they are here legally they will be removed
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u/Satesh400 3d ago
Just like the legal ones being detained in the US right? The whole point is that we can't allow any tolerance of this level of rhetoric. "Detaining illegals" etc is dehumanising and absolutely without nuance, immigration is a massively complex subject that Reform has absolutely no grasp on, and demonstrates that day in and day out.
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u/Mental_Potential7987 3d ago
This is Britain we don’t follow what America do do we
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u/Satesh400 3d ago
More than we should. And creeping fascism already has a history here with people like Oswald Moseley.
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u/felix3322 6d ago
As much as wigan has never been a thriving town I have seen alot of development in wigan since labour got in. the colleges , the town centre, three mills ect. Whether or not they'll end up being good development is yet to be known but it's better than torys who just stuffed their own pockets gave us nothing
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u/lancashirehotpots 5d ago
Surely you don’t think three mills has been developed due to labour do you?
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u/felix3322 5d ago
Indirectly for sure. At the end of the day it's the local councils job to attract investments like this. It's only in phase one hopefully if it continues well have a thriving community area in a historic brownfield site
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u/Mental_Potential7987 6d ago
Labour never got out it’s been a Labour town for over 100 years it’s time for REFORM
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u/felix3322 6d ago
It has but we've had 14 years of the tories who never gave a shit about northern towns like ours and gave us scraps at best of funding while they lined their pockets down south. If you think reforms the answer another shade of blue is still blue
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u/deicist 6d ago
A Reform candidate spouting bullshit? I am shocked, shocked I tell you!