r/Wildfire • u/CBSnews • Jul 15 '25

News (General) National Park Service's handling of wildfire that destroyed historic Grand Canyon Lodge questioned

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/grand-canyon-lodge-wildfire-burned-for-days-before-it-spread/
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u/larry_flarry Jul 15 '25

Yeah, it's just ill-informed idiots playing at NPS expert and advocate. Two weeks ago they couldn't have told you whether or not that lodge existed, and they certainly couldn't be bothered to call their representatives to demand adequate funding for the agency.

'Member just last year when that piece of shit sheriff in John Day tried to railroad Rick Snodgrass? I do, and everyone I work with sure does. Used to be everyone wanted the experience and the responsibility. Now it's who draws short straw to bethe fall guy if things go tits up.

There will be a clownish amount of AAR on this... it's the park service. There's gonna be nerds researching every aspect of this for decades. Accountability will be had.

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u/Lucky_Double_8301 Jul 15 '25

Two different things and I do not agree with that Sheriff. All I’m saying is that one small fire crew could have prevented all those buildings from burning. It would have been prudent to put that fire out in the peak of fire season. Manage the fires that start naturally later in the season when cool weather and moisture is in the forecast. I just hate to see so many buildings especially historic ones like that burn when that fire could have easily been prevented with a minimal amount of effort

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u/larry_flarry Jul 15 '25

All I’m saying is that one small fire crew could have prevented all those buildings from burning.

A whole bunch of large fire crews, in fact, failed to prevent it from burning, as evidenced by this very goddamn conversation. Once again, without even being there or knowing who was working it, I can offer the utmost assurances that everyone engaged did not want the lodge to burn down. No one wants to chalk up an L.

What quals do you hold? What's your background in fire ecology? Go on, tell us about some of the rippers you ICed.

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u/Lucky_Double_8301 Jul 15 '25

That fire smoldered at 2.5 acres for 3 days and nothing was done. That’s why we are having this conversation. It WAS easily catchable for 3 days.

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u/Lucky_Double_8301 Jul 15 '25

Then the wind picked. In peak fire season. All I’m saying is that fire could have been easily caught and now it’s a multimillion dollar campaign fire that destroyed a lot of property. And here we all are. Arguing about it.

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u/Main_Bother_1027 Jul 15 '25

SW peak fire season is May/June. WTF are you talking about?

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u/Lucky_Double_8301 Jul 15 '25

Then why did this fire go big? The monsoons should have stopped it? Why didn’t they? Why did it make a 4000 acre run in one day? The fuck you talking about?? I understand that historically it is monsoon season, and that Southern Arizona got above average rainfall in June. So why did this fire go big?

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u/Main_Bother_1027 Jul 15 '25

Unseasonably dry conditions doesn't mean it's "peak season", ya smooth brain.

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u/Lucky_Double_8301 Jul 15 '25

Peak or not, the conditions were ripe for a big fire huh?