r/Windows10 • u/Stefan_S_from_H • 8h ago
Discussion A sign that Windows 10 is still very popular: They need to roll out ESU slowly, and it's not available everywhere at once.
It's a multi-billion dollar company with large data centers around the world. The process of ESU registration is automated. There's no staff that registers every single user by hand.
But still, they need to roll out the ESU registration process slowly from region to region. Probably to not overwhelm their servers. (And allow users more time to consider Windows 11.)
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u/ChrisF1987 7h ago
I still haven't been offered Win10 ESU on one of my computers. In the US, running latest update, etc. Should I be concerned?
BTW I believe Win10 still has a ~40% market share.
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u/Stefan_S_from_H 7h ago
Maybe this can help you: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/1mz9z6g/how_to_force_enroll_now_in_windows_10_esu/
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u/ChrisF1987 6h ago
Microsoft deleted the page
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u/PeacefulIntentions 6h ago
Have a look at this: https://github.com/abbodi1406/ConsumerESU
Not mine and the usual “use at your own risk” caveat applies
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u/Funsized_eu 4h ago
I have three computers all linked to the same Microsoft account, all on Windows 10 and all completely up to date.
The oldest of the three received a notification during a Windows Update check that it was 'eligible to be enrolled in ESU', and since I thought you can get up to 10 computers on the same Microsoft account, the other two would be flagged as enrolled after accepting on the first PC.
Neither of my other two PCs have been enrolled yet, god knows how this thing works.
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u/TheLamesterist 7h ago
We'll know for sure when September arrives but W10 seems to be gaining back based on these early data.
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u/Candid_Report955 6h ago
2026 will be the year of Linux-Win10 dual booting on the desktop
why? people who only need Windows for games or running a few apps like Office
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u/nuker1110 6h ago
Tbh Proton is an absolute monster for running Windows games on Linux. I think the only games it won’t handle are those that have Kernel-level anticheat, but I don’t play those games anyway.
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u/ManIkWeet 5h ago
Games sure, everything else not so much :(
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u/Candid_Report955 4h ago
good thing about open source is somebody can fork that code and make it useful for applications.
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u/ManIkWeet 1h ago
A good thing, but without enough incentive (demand or company-investment) a side effect of open source is that progress is slow (as people are volunteering their spare time)
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u/Stefan_S_from_H 2h ago
Is Proton Steam only, or does it work with games from the Epic Store, too?
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u/nuker1110 2h ago
You can use it with non-Steam programs by linking them to Steam as a Non-Steam Game, or just use Heroic launcher which can pull in Epic and GOG both via APIs.
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u/matorin57 7h ago
Its not for infra reasons. Its so they can quickly fix and issues that arise in a timely manner. Its alot more manageable if you deal with just Canada and fix any problems there instead of just hoping it works every where.
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u/Blakendeker 7h ago
I read that you have to have admin rights to enroll . I usually work with a standard account. I switched to an admin role to be offered ESU but I hope I will be able to change back to a standard account after.
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u/ActaFabulaEst 4h ago
“ESU coverage for personal devices runs from Oct. 15, 2025, through Oct. 13, 2026,” Microsoft’s Yusuf Mehdi explained. “Starting today [25th June], the enrollment wizard is available in the Windows Insider Program and will begin rolling out as an option to Windows 10 customers in July, with broad availability expected by mid-August.”
It takes clearly more time than expected.
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u/ScubadooX 6h ago
I enrolled a few days ago once the link showed up in Settings. I did not need to backup anything to OneDrive nor use 1,000 MS points. One Redditor said that this was required but, at least in my case, it wasn't. I had to use my MS account, though, which is no big deal. My ESU expires on October 13, 2026.
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u/Excellent_Coconut_81 2h ago
Taking into account insane hardware requirements of Windows 11, that make even relatively new devices incompatible, it's utterly inreasonable to expect otherwise.
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u/ChrisF1987 31m ago
The other night I was thinking to myself that this Windows 11 is going to result in a massive amount of still largely functional e-waste. I'm typing this on a Dell XPS desktop running a 4th generation i7 that works basically the same as the day I got it. I no longer use it for gaming but it's perfectly fine in a secondary role for browsing social media and watching movies/TV shows. The 8th generation Intel processors (the minimum for Windows 11) were only introduced in October 2017 which isn't all that long ago.
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u/Ryokurin 7h ago
Windows 7 is still at 2% usage worldwide. That's 28 million people. If they were still releasing updates that's high enough to warrant doing it with care.
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u/AllergyHeil 7h ago
I just installed w7 on my main pc, because the motherboard has all the drivers from w7 to w11
Fun ^-^
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u/WhiteRaven42 4h ago
EVERY feature gets a slow roll out these days, no matter how major or how obscure. This is not evidence of Win 10 popularity, it's a process that everything undergoes.
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u/MorallyDeplorable 3h ago
This is just a standard part of how to do large software rollouts.
If you push something broken you want to know when it's broken for 1% of users instead of 100% of users.
This is standard procedure for basically any company even 1/10th of MS's size
Nothing to see here, move along
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u/Stefan_S_from_H 2h ago
People here explain about slow software rollouts, but isn't the ESU just a flag in the Microsoft account that tells the update servers that this Windows 10 machine is allowed to get security fixes?
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u/GrimmReaper1942 30m ago
Yes, because pushing out a change to millions all at once is allays a good idea
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u/fmccloud 6h ago
Every day that goes by, the more cultish the remaining users of 10 will get.
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u/Stefan_S_from_H 5h ago
It's enough that I buy an iPhone every 4 to 6 years. I want this PC to be at least 10 years old before I retire it.
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u/fmccloud 2h ago
Yeah I wait too. I installed W11 last year on a new computer I built as an upgrade from a Skylake/980 ti build. I found out that the claims here are way out of date.
Also, I upgrade my iPhone slowly too going from a iPhone 8 to 14.
W11 isn’t the cutting edge mess it was at launch anymore.
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u/MysteriousBill1986 5h ago
Youre acting like you have to buy an iphone every 4 to 6 years
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u/Stefan_S_from_H 5h ago
You are aware that Windows 10 support will end this October and people buy new PCs to run Windows 11 and receive further updates?
That's the whole point of this thread.
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u/NY_Knux 4h ago
Right? Normally you have to every 2 years, with how aggressive their obsolescence updates are, that slowly kills the phone's performance.
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u/MysteriousBill1986 3h ago
Maybe you shouldnt use an iphone then
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u/NY_Knux 3h ago
I don't :)
It's done with Android phones too, BTW. Its not a user error, btw. its done through automatic updates.
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u/MysteriousBill1986 3h ago
Good. Maybe it is but i sure dont notice anything. Last phone i used was a samsung s10e and i had that for well over 6 years. I got a new phone only because i dropped it and cracked the screen
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u/MorallyDeplorable 3h ago
Yea, I don't know what these people are on about. I always replace my phones because the battery has gone out and get 6-7 years off each.
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u/fmccloud 2h ago
My iPhone 14 is just as good as it was 3 years ago. My 8 was fine when I replaced it with the 14 but I wanted high refresh, oled, and better cameras.
You don’t need the hyperbole.
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u/Stefan_S_from_H 2h ago
I have never witnessed a slowed-down iPhone after an iOS update. One even made the old phone a bit snappier.
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u/Mightypeon-1Tapss 6h ago
Just installed Win10 a month ago on a new 9800X3D system, this OS feels much better than Win11. I just can’t stand Win11 because of the UI and sluggishness, to each their own.
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u/pln91 4h ago
So edgy. Totes not a rehash of the same tired argument we've heard at every windows release since the '90s.
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u/Mightypeon-1Tapss 4h ago
I’m so edgy because I don’t prefer to use the latest Windows😂. God, people like you in these subs are so insufferable. Let people use what they want.
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u/NY_Knux 4h ago
That's not what "edgy" means, and if you were around in the 90s you would know that. Sephiroth and Shadow the Hedgehog are edgy, enjoying a product is now...
And you would also know that this is what was said every OTHER Windows release, not every one.
Everybody loved Windows 98, XP, 7, and 10.
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u/NY_Knux 4h ago
This makes no sense? I literally had to downgrade to Windows 10 just to format a floppy disk using thencomand promotion, because Windows 11 doesnt support it.
As a result, my temps went down 20 degrees.
Tf do you mean "cultish"? Let people like better products. Stop feeling some sort of way just because other people arent using "the newest thing".c
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u/MorallyDeplorable 2h ago
Your post is exactly what he means by cultish.
It starts off with a completely false claim (format is present on Windows 11 and it can still do FAT and floppys or diskettes)
It leads into an unverifiable and outlandish claim (Temps down 20deg)
Then it goes into how they're not a cult and everything is better in their reality because of all their make-believe nonsense
Then there's an attempt to belittle and undermine the original, accurate, claim of "cultish" by trying to paint it as absurd using this fantasy you've concocted
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u/NY_Knux 2h ago
Im sorry my lived experience blows apart your imagination that doesnt match reality.
If the commands didn't work on Windows 11, then worked on Windows 10, I will not let you gaslight me otherwise. Same with my temps.
Its my computer, not yours. I know better than you.
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u/MorallyDeplorable 2h ago
You know you can easily verify this by googling it, right? Nobody is trying to lie to you.
You're not important enough to me to bother trying to gaslight.
Anyways, you asked, you got an answer. Make of it what you will.
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u/Kaziglu_Bey 6h ago
This with the added possibility that their Windows organization is in shambles.
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u/Froggypwns 8h ago
Microsoft does almost everything with Windows on slow gradual rollouts to minimize disruptions and to identify and resolve issues. They have been chastised in the past for quickly rolling out various changes, including minor ones, so now they do the low and slow method. This improves reliability and keeps the impact of issues to a minimum, however it is frustrating for something like this when we have no better answer than you need to wait your turn.
It has nothing to do with server load, Microsoft has one of the most robust infrastructures in the world.