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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '14

Can she heal others? If so, how quickly? So I assume she can turn invisible and create illusions from what you said. Someone else had also mentioned teleportation. How long would it take for her to use these abilities? Instantly, a few minutes, or a few hours? Do they have any specific limitations to them, such as she can only stay invisible for a few minutes or can only teleport so far?

Thanks for the info by the way. As she is part of a fantasy team in the challenge, this should actually help a lot, as other characters can tank and protect her while she casts some of her spells or abilities.

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u/sennalvera Nov 23 '14

Egwene isn't a great healer. It's a talent and some have it to a greater degree than others. She could probably manage some bruising or minor lacerations. Nearly all magic including healing, invisibility and teleportation can be done in seconds.

I should go into more detail about the teleportation - she doesn't move herself, she opens a sort of dimensional door and steps through it to the other location. To teleport instantly you have to know your starting point very well, you can't just do it anywhere. If you know your destination well but not your starting point that's a different kind of teleportation called skimming, and it takes longer. You travel through this grey non-dimension for a while and then arrive. She can transport others, too, as long as she travels with them. She can travel anywhere long as you don't want to go to another planet or something.

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned but Egwene's magic isn't inherently part of her. It's an external force that you connect to and use at need. You can't be connected to it all the time (you'd get addicted), trying to use more of it than you can safely handle can kill you and the magic users of this universe have ways of blocking each other from using it at all. Spells are literally woven from 'strands' of this power, some are very complicated and if they go wrong they can unravel and potentially even explode. If Egwene loses her connection to the magic source, through interference or exhaustion, any spells she's holding will dissolve. You don't want to be halfway through a teleportation doorway if this happens. There's also a limit to how much she can do at one time. Immobilization or fireballs are quick and easy; invisibility and teleportation are intensive and tiring.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '14

Okay, good to know, thanks.

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u/jofwu Nov 24 '14

There are physical ways to cut off her magic abilities. For example, some kinds of drugs might temporarily leave her powerless

Also, using magic can be exhausting. More powerful magic takes more out of you. Using a lot of magic, or even just a few powerful "spells", can leave you as tired and powerless as if you had just finished running a marathon.

There are magical objects which increase your capacity to use magic, called angreal. That is, you can use more of it safely and you can use it without wearing yourself out so quickly. And when I say "increase" I mean many times more than normal. Egwene uses a particularly powerful object of this kind, and I think you could argue that it is hers. I don't know if you're allowed to have characters use items, but if so then you want this one. :)

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '14

Egwene al-Vere from the Wheel of Time. Won't use balefire. Amyrlin seat and wise one apprentice.

That's the restrictions I was given. Everything else is fair game. What is the object called? I'd like to be able to reference it.

And thanks for the info.

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u/jofwu Nov 24 '14

"Vora's sa'angreal" is the only name I think it is given. It's mentioned toward the end of Egwene's wiki article and has its own page here. Probably best to read the articles on the One Power, saidar, and angreals.

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u/autowikiabot Nov 24 '14

Vora's sa'angreal:


Egwene channeling through the Vora's sa'angreal against a to'raken

For other uses of the words "white" and "rod," parts of a former name of this *ter'angreal, see White and Rod.* Vora's sa'angreal, once known as the white rod, is a female sa'angreal in the form of a fluted white wand. It is the most powerful sa'angreal currently in the White Tower's possession. The rod is kept in a storeroom in the Tower with other objects of the One Power, inside a narrow unadorned wooden box nestled in red silk. The wand itself is about the length of a woman's forearm, made of an unknown material that looks as though it could be bone or ivory, though it is neither.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '14

Thanks!

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u/Klondeikbar Nov 24 '14

That is, you can use more of it safely and you can use it without wearing yourself out so quickly.

Actually one of the reasons her sa'angreal was so powerful is because it didn't have the safety buffer. I actually think by definition, sa'angreal do not have any buffers at all. Only angreal have buffers. The Choedan Khal have their buffers in their access keys, not the sa'angreal themselves.

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u/Tipsticks (Heron-Marked Sword) Nov 25 '14

As far as i can recall, Sa'Angreal is basically a classification inside the definition of Angreal, meaning they are Angreal, that surpass a certain (undefined) amount they can increase a channeler's ability by. Otherwise it would be quite unreasonable to state that the Choedan Khal are the most powerful Sa'Angreal to have ever been made. It is possible though that Sa'Angreal can increase a channeler's power to a point where it is impossible to handle all of it for a single human being. Unfortunately, there are not really any tasks performed inside the story, that require ALL the power the Sa'Angreal can supply, apart from fighting the dark one. But when it comes to that, Rand is so powerful that he can do quite a bit of destructive fun without any augmentation of his powers.

And for our kind guest: Egwene Al'Vere is considered immensely powerful even before being properly trained in using her abilities. Later on, we rarely see her doing anything great in terms of using the One Power without any augmentation of her ability, so it's quite difficult to give distinct information about her power. With the aforementioned Sa'Angreal, she should be able to destroy a decently sized medieval town by herself though.

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u/Klondeikbar Nov 25 '14

All of the sa'angreal that we ever see in the story specifically lack the buffer. So far that really seems to be their defining characteristic. When Verin is discussing the Choeden Khal she even mentions that only a handful of Aes Sedai are powerful enough to safely handle them. Even this implies that it drags so much of the power into a channeler that it would harm them which means no safety buffer in the sa'angreal itself. It's not until later that we learn the buffers are in the access keys.

Second, Egwene is level 15. We actually have very distinct information about her power. She is equal in the power to Elayne and Aviendah but is weaker than all the Forsaken, Nynaeve, several windfinders, Sharina, and Alivia.

With the aforementioned Sa'Angreal, she should be able to destroy a decently sized medieval town by herself though.

On several occasions she summons massive lighting storms and huge bolts of lighting. It's pretty damn obvious she could wreck a small town.

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u/Tipsticks (Heron-Marked Sword) Nov 25 '14

My memory might be lacking then. I am only 4 books in on y reread and i haven't touched WoT for years before that.

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u/Klondeikbar Nov 25 '14

Fair enough. I spend way too much time on this subreddit so I'm constantly reminding myself of stuff.