r/accelerate • u/luchadore_lunchables Feeling the AGI • 17d ago
News AI will forever transform the doctor-patient relationship
https://archive.ph/0Ncvs13
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u/HeinrichTheWolf_17 Acceleration Advocate 17d ago
By eliminating the need for it.
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u/luchadore_lunchables Feeling the AGI 17d ago
ASI's invention of The Drexler Molecular Assembler will jumpstart us into the LEV
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u/SgathTriallair Techno-Optimist 17d ago
I'm glad this doctor seems to get it. The goal should be the elimination of these professions and complete replacement by AI systems.
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u/HeinrichTheWolf_17 Acceleration Advocate 17d ago
Yeah, an ASI would be able to give each of us the treatments we need/want faster than human doctors can. A lot of people can’t even get a doctor, or they might get a crappy doctor who doesn’t listen or will never give them treatment.
Our current medical system is going to look like dog shit in comparison to whats coming.
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u/AuroraKappa Techno-Optimist 17d ago
Not necessarily disagreeing with the content of the article, but Millenson's background is in journalism.
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u/SgathTriallair Techno-Optimist 17d ago
He mentioned being in a National Academy workgroup so I assumed he was a doctor.
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u/Petdogdavid1 17d ago
I wrote a short story about this topic and put it on substack.
As AI keeps getting better there will be a demand of having it involved in the diagnosis. Eventually it will be malpractice to not consult AI
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u/jlks1959 15d ago
I’m a senior. My doctor, 10 years younger, retired a few years ago. His replacement? A nurse practitioner. Ok. So this month I’m having my welcome to Medicare meeting with a substitute NP subbing for my real NP. I’m ready for consistency, artificial or not.
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u/SignalWorldliness873 17d ago
AI will transform every kind of professional relationship, including teachers, lawyers, accountants, managers, etc.
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u/Lesbitcoin Singularity by 2045 17d ago
My mother's doctor already uses AI to read her electrocardiogram and get advice on medical examinations.
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u/luchadore_lunchables Feeling the AGI 17d ago edited 17d ago
Make sure she's using one of the reasoning models to significantly cut down on the chances of hallucination.
Edit: I'm just trying to help.
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u/Waste-Industry1958 17d ago
In 5 years, a doctor is just like a lawyer. Someone who has read a lot of information. AI may make these and many other titles, not useless, but rather downgraded in status.
What people pay and look up to doctors and lawyers for is essentialy their knowledge. Their value to society will decrease substantially, I believe.
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u/abrandis 17d ago
Lol, obviously no one here works in medicine to think this... First off medicine will use AI but to support and augment the practice of medicine not to replace humans...why?
Medicine. Is HIGHLY regulated (in the US and West) , that regulation is based on humans doing the work, making the decisions. And ultimately being responsible for those decisions (hence malpractice insurance), you would need to re-write the regulatory environment to let AI be able to do that.
Second. reason related to the first is there are very powerful lobbies for doctors hospitals big pharma etc. that will fight against changing the status quo . Imagine. An AI that realizes that certain prescribed medicines have little or no effect, and just stops prescribing them en masse, you think big pharma will accept that? And many other such scenarios. Medicine 💊 is a cash cow for many parts of the healtcare landscape. and major change may threaten some of that.
So again AI will be used to augment medicine not replace any provider.
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u/cloudrunner6969 17d ago
And when clinics in other countries like India or Thailand or Mexico etc start using AI to develop pharmaceuticals that actually cure sickness and disease and people flock to those countries in the millions for those drugs, what will big pharma do then?
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u/carnoworky 17d ago
It will likely not be far off where AIs will be able to come up with novel medicines outside the control of the pharmaceutical industry. Governments can try to regulate it, but aside from outright banning the use of all generally-intelligence systems by the public, they can only slow adoption. What happens when you can use a chemistry equivalent of a 3D printer to make medicines?
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u/abrandis 17d ago
Again, your skipping a shit ton of regulation and think wow look at this neat new novel medicine, that AI says works... Great now prove it... Here's how bringing a new drug to market looks like.
- Discovery & Preclinical Research
- IND Filing
- Phase 1 Clinical Trials
- Phase 2 Clinical Trials
- Phase 3 Clinical Trials
- NDA/BLA Submission
- Regulatory Review & Approval
- Post-Market Surveillance
The only folks able to do that are big pharma.... So even if AI actually discovered something novel you would have to run it through the existing channels to get it LEGALLY approved ... Of course nothing is stopping you from bio hacking and taking unknown and unproven substances but that will never catch on or be mass market.
Another thing that AI can't do is synthesize all those chemical compounds , that requires pretty elaborate technical knowledge and facilities, again only big pharma has those...so good luck getting. Some important compoind for your wonder drug, if you don't have the lab.
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u/cloudrunner6969 17d ago
Another thing that AI can't do is synthesize all those chemical compounds , that requires pretty elaborate technical knowledge and facilities, again only big pharma has those...so good luck getting.
Never heard of a Compounding Chemist?
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u/ub3rh4x0rz 16d ago edited 16d ago
They won't even eliminate fax machines, they're not eliminating doctors ever, especially considering the high correlation between patient trust in the doctor and their outcome... even if doctors became technically obsolete, we would see fit to maintain the illusion because people respond to that on a very deep level. Doctors have existed since before the scientific method existed.
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u/Individual_Option744 17d ago
Looking forward to it