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u/OswaldSpencer Sep 21 '21

No, it's not a political reality, it's a delusion. If "Kosovo's" independence was something easily attainable then why is it taking more than 20 years even when there is no major Serbian population there as well as virtually zero Serbian institutions down there to finally accomplish it?

The answer to this rhetorical question is quite simple, and that is that "Kosovo's" independence can only be legally gained if Serbia itself recognizes it and that is it, everything else is just a form of justified theft and nothing more nothing less.

Whether or not "Kosovo" is ever going to be an independent state is highly debatable and no one knows that for sure. We can only wait and see.

However I do have to point out that I do keep seeing a lot of Albanian people whether they're simple citizens or politicians that are openly talking about uniting with Albania? You do realize that even if Kosovo does become independent, uniting with Albania would pretty much be met with immediate drop of support from NATO countries and other allies alike since the whole independence that Kosovo is yielding towards would be contradictory to such an act. And let's not mention the possibility of the all out scale war with Serbia without NATO intervention.

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u/unfollowerofchrist Sep 21 '21

Kosova’s independence was legally gained when the International Court of Justice ruled it legal. Why would we even give a shit about Serbian law. We do not recognize Serbia the same way Serbia doesn’t recognize Kosova. This narrative of mutual recognition has been mentioned by our government recently as well. That’s why the plates makes sense. It is not paradoxical and entirely logical for us to not recognize Serbia as long as they see Kosova as part of their territory. Of course we do not recognize that Serbia. If Serbia recognized Kosova then we wouldn’t have a problem, as we do not have any territorial aspirations on actual Serbia.

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u/OswaldSpencer Sep 22 '21 edited Sep 22 '21

Kosova’s independence was legally gained when the International Court of Justice ruled it legal.

Hah, being intellectually inferiors as always, I'm not surprised. The declaration of independence itself was ruled "not illegal" because the court didn't find the declarers of the independence to be formal representatives of the so called "Kosovo government" but rather a bunch of civilians, in other words the declaration itself was meaningless. If it was truly legal as you state then why do we have this whole campaign of international recognition of "Kosovo's" independence as well as USA's and EU's pressure on Serbia to recognize if if the "ruling of independence" was enough?

It is not paradoxical and entirely logical for us to not recognize Serbia as long as they see Kosova as part of their territory

It is paradoxical, because you're not a real country, the West may treat you as such but as long as your mother country (Serbia) and the rest of the international community does not (which it does not by the way) it truly doesn't matter and henceforth you're still not a real country. Something that does not exist("Kosovo") does not have sway over something that does actually exist like Republic of Serbia for example.

as we do not have any territorial aspirations on actual Serbia.

Yes you do, because Kosovo is actually Serbian territory, and you can easily listen to various statements made by "Kosovo's" and Albanian's politician about Bujanovac and Medvedja.

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u/OswaldSpencer Sep 24 '21

Well... the reason why I'm specifically commenting on r/albania is because it is a much better place to express an opinion when it comes to "Kosovo" then on r/kosovo, had I written all of the things that I wrote here on r/kosovo all of my comments would have been deleted by now and I would have already been banned, but here I am and I'm still talking to you. I always assumed that people on r/albania were much less fanatics and brainless monkeys than the crows on r/kosovo and I was right, therefore I have no regrets.

Regarding actions of Milosevic and the Yugoslav Army from 98' to 99' their only mistake was that they didn't had better air defenses during that period. Honestly, the situation on the ground wasn't that alarming, the number of military and civilian casualties was relatively the same when it came to fighting a typical guerilla war and they were pretty much smashing the terrorist KLA, but when it came to NATO air campaign that didn't even have the support of the UN council and therefore it was illegal, there wasn't a lot that Yugoslav Army could do. I personally would say that Yugoslav Army had proven itself pretty competent and professional during that war period given their limited equipment which can't be said for the KLA terrorists, after all they're all just a bunch of inbreed goat fucking retards that can't put up a fight without NATO's help when it comes to killing civilians. It's not our fault that the West had and/or still has geopolitical interests in this regions and Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija were willing to submit to their will without a fight just like true inferior slaves they are in hopes of gaining true independence one day which by the way they still hadn't gained and probably will never.