Beyond Motive - How would Knox and Sollecito conspire with Guede to do this?

[u/SeaCardiologist6207]

One thing I have never understood in reading this sub is beyond the motive explanation - what makes you so sure that Knox and Sollecito are guilty when they would 100% have to have done this with Rudy Guede. It's a mathematical impossibility that Rudy wasn't there, so your basic claim is then that they both conspired with some random person they served a drink once in a bar, and possibly met at a party, to murder and torture someone? Do you actually listen to what you are proposing logically? That a white American, Italian, and African would somehow become a criminal gang and plan out a crime?

Not only that, but you would assume that 3 people would be able to commit such a crime in a way that they could both cover all of each other's tracks (not have 1 of the 3 have overwhelming evidence present at the crime)? And that Rudy would be the one to do all the killing and somehow have agreed to this? And taken a dump in the toilet and left it there? No one would have told him "hey dude, not a good idea"?

There is no reasonable path to finding them guilty unless you believe they conspired with Rudy and that evidence is so incredibly thin (unless you are that commenter that somehow believes Rudy is innocent, I can't tell if its wife or mom).

What exactly is the theory on how all 3 of them did it that doesn't sound completely ridiculous?

[u/itisnteasy2021]

I can't see it either. Rudy had a few stolen phones leading up to the murder (and after) in which he had communicated with friends with and none had any communication with AK nor RS. No evidence ever presented that they had any contact with him in the week prior.

The night of the murder, from cameras (corrected time) and phone evidence:

8:20PM RG is shown on the garage camera near the villa.

8:35PM AK texts PL (after reading his text that she doesn't have to work) the famous "see you later" text from RS's apartment.

8:45 RS's neighbour JP arrives to tell RS she does not need a ride anymore and confirms they are there. RS is talking to his father on the phone.

Up until that point, both AK and RS assume they have other plans. AK was supposed to work and RS was supposed to drive JP to the train station. Who conspires to commit a crime under these circumstances? Only now do they have the night off and the laptop shows they continue their movie at this point.

8:56PM MK calls her mom near her home, but the call is dropped.

9:01PM MK is seen on the garage camera near the villa.

9:10PM AK and RS finish their movie. They make dinner and eat while watching another show.

9:49PM RS's laptop shows the show ends.

9:58PM MK's 1st phone dials her answering service.

10:00PM MK's 2nd phone dials her first contract in her address book but it does not connect. Both calls connect through the cell tower near where the phone is eventually found, not the one near the villa.

At this point, MK has been killed and evidence disposed.

Given the timeline... I see no way they were involved. There is no evidence they were near the villa at this time. No video captures them walking by. No eye witnesses. Someone touched their laptop at 9:10PM and 9:49PM. I too have never seen any explanation that fits in with the timeline.