r/antimeme Jul 13 '25

❌ Anti-Hate ❌ Congratulations

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u/schaukelwurmv Jul 13 '25

Perfectly chosen flair! I cannot express my disgust against the original of this one. Those people don't want anyone to be happy.

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u/Arcreonis Jul 13 '25

So it disgusts you when people recommend doing things that lead to the most happiness?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/12/motherhood-marriage-pandemic-covid-children/672563/

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/who-is-happiest-married-mothers-and-fathers-per-the-latest-general-social-survey/?utm_

https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/are-you-better-off-having-children-despite-the-500000-cost-8nhkz70q6?utm_

If you want everyone to be happy, you probably ought to recommend they do the things which lead to happiness. But that would require moral courage, which is in scarce supply in the hive mind.

Awards and things are nice, and they may be valuable, but they don't in fact lead to the greatest happiness. The data tells us that.

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u/Cassu2 Jul 13 '25

I can't see any proof of marriage and children causing the happiness in the articles you provided (last one was paywalled admittedly), only a correlation. You could be putting the cause before the effect; it's just as likely that happy people tend to have kids, not that having kids makes you happy.

Not to mention that there is no evidence that these successful award-winning women are the miserable ones. There's still around 20% of single childless women who consider themselves very happy, plenty of unsuccessful unhappy women in that single-childless category. It also bears repeating, these unsuccessful unhappy women aren't necessarily unsuccessful and unhappy because they're unmarried and childless.

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u/Arcreonis Jul 14 '25

You don't trust the best scientific answers we have on the subject?

On what makes someone happiest? Not just happy, but happiest.

What do you trust? Anecdotes? I can't, with you people. Is science the arbiter of truth, or isn't it? If not science, then what?

I already know the answer: the almighty self. The opiate of the 21-century masses. A delusional guide with no reasoning or curiosity, just desires and the will to fulfill them at all costs.

Willful delusion doesn't bring happiness. Never has and never will.

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u/Cassu2 Jul 14 '25

I don't understand what you're trying to insinuate. It's like you're answering to things you wanted me to say but I didn't. I never put forward any anecdotes, so your spiel literally does not apply to me.

You're describing radical individualism. Individualism is an American cancer that is trying its very best to dig its claws into every facet of every other Western democracy. Thankfully it's not as bad where I live. Yet, unfortunately.