r/antimeme 26d ago

❌ Anti-Hate ❌ Just a vocal minority

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u/Farfocele break the rules and the mods will break your bones 26d ago edited 26d ago

Only radfems, and i'm sure that from what i heard, actual feminists hate those.
supposedly

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u/taro_monokub 26d ago

Nah, that's a misconception, radical feminism just means a more systemic approach to viewing inequality (not saying it mainly lies in economical / political / etc. dimension, but that's it's rather a whole institution of patriarchy). I'm a radical feminist myself and definitely don't indiscriminately hate men, even though I do hate the system as it is

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u/Yaboialaind 26d ago

I think it's only partially a misconception. I would call myself a radical feminist, but I wouldn't call myself a radfem, cause terfs/gender essentialists have kinda overtaken that term sadly. so I think you're only partially right

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u/claretaker 26d ago

I mean terfs have never liked the term terf. Don't they literally try to argue that terf is a slur? The only reason that label stuck is because people on the left kept using it to describe them because of how much it clearly bothered them. So doesn't that mean that they didn't actually try to claim radical feminism for themselves, and instead it got foisted onto them by other people?

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u/Yaboialaind 26d ago

Maybe I'm having a hard time understanding what ur saying, but no I don't think so. Quite a few self proclaimed "radfems" are gender essentialst, and think men are inherently bad people (and they're in turn also quite transphobic). At least online, if I see "#radfem" in a profile or post, I'll be wary

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u/claretaker 26d ago

I feel like in their heads that's slur reclamation to them because I distinctly remember them getting really irate if you called them a terf particularly in the late 2010s. And even if not, I don't think someone is a radical feminist just because they call themselves that. The concept of calling yourself feminist in any capacity while denigrating a specific category of women has never really made sense to me anyway. Like you, I'm also weary of people who loudly and proudly wear the "radical feminist" label, but I'm only cautious of them because I think they're usually bigots who're appropriating a label so their ideology is more palatable to cisgender women, not because I actually accept them labeling themselves radical feminists. They're basically the "National Socialists" of feminism to me. Might be the label they wear, but in practice that isn't what they are.

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u/Yaboialaind 25d ago

oh 100% with you then, they are definitely not feminists at all, it's just that they do call themselves like they are. I'm not wary of feminists/radfems, I'm just wary of people who call themselves that, if that makes sense