I mean there's only so many man-hating feminists I can meet (this is irl mind you, this isn't even social media skewing perceptions) before I don't want to interact with ANY of them anymore 🥀💔
From my experience, not every feminist is a #killallmen misandrist. But every #killallmen misandrist is also a feminist
A few bad apples make the entire orchard shut down from expensive lawsuits or whatever the phrase says
Ok but when prominent 2nd wave feminists like Gearhart and Daly advocate for male genocide and several modern feminists ascribe to that belief system, it's not as simple as writing these folks off as "not real feminists"
They're a significant minority or sect of the ideological movement, at least
Gearhart literally wrote:
Every culture must begin to affirm a female future.
Species responsibility must be returned to women in every culture.
The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.
~Sally Miller Gearhart, The Future - If There Is One - Is Female
Calls for male genocide are part of actual feminist history, not just an obscure internet echo chamber or something
Jesus Christ— I did not realize that those were views she’d seriously published. Looks like it’s some of her earlier stuff, but god damn. Makes the SCUM manifesto seem significantly less wild by comparison, now.
TLDR: In same power situations, women are just about as likely to commit crime and violence as men. Even assuming otherwise, mass poverty due to spiking healthcare costs and/or rapidly shrinking population would increase crime regardless
When physical aggression is the subject of inquiry, studies consistently find that as many women self-report perpetrating this behavior as do men; some studies find a higher prevalence of physical aggression committed by women (for a review see Archer, 2000). For example, the National Family Violence Survey (Straus & Gelles, 1990), a nationally representative study of 6,002 men and women, found that in the year before the survey, 12.4% of wives self-reported that they used violence against their husbands compared to 11.6% of husbands who self-reported using violence against their wives. Furthermore, 4.8% of wives reported using severe violence against their husbands, whereas 3.4% of husbands reported using severe violence (Straus & Gelles, 1990). Studies with college samples also find that men and women commit similar rates of physical aggression (Cercone, Beach, & Arias, 2005) or that a higher prevalence of women commit physical aggression (Straus, 2004).
From another paper from the same source
Rates of inmate-on-inmate sexual victimization in the previous 6 months were highest for female inmates (212 per 1,000), more than four times higher than male rates (43 per 1,000)
So, we can pretty safely conclude that women are pretty much just as prone to violence (physical and sexual) in situations where perceived power is equalised.
Additionally, even if women were less likely to commit crimes, the sheer economic impact it would have would send millions straight into poverty and skyrocket crime rates. To maintain the population, each woman would have to go from an average of just over 2 children to about 4 (as ~half the kids are culled, being male). Abortion would also be fairly unfeasible, as abortions at the point of determining gender (18-24 weeks) ned to be performed under general anaesthesia. So, either women would have to suddenly get way more enthusiastic about being pregnant for nothing, or the population craters within a single generation. Either way, shit gets ass fast
I like that you had to use prisoners, people who are already criminals as a poor attempt to dismiss male violence. Did you also read that most women who are in prison are likely to be victims of sexual abuse at the hands of men? And how that may have impacted their criminal behavior? No?
Women are 7 times more likely to be the victims of sexual assault, 6 times more likely to be trafficked and 3 times more likely to be kidnapped.
Guess who's doing all those crimes?
Males constituted 87.9% of those arrested for robbery
Males constituted 85.0% of those arrested for burglary
Males constituted 83.0% of those arrested for arson.
Males constituted 81.5% of those arrested for motor-vehicle theft.
Males constituted 79.7% of those arrested for offenses against family and children.
Males constituted 77.8% of those arrested for aggravated assault
Males were convicted of the vast majority of homicides in the United States, representing 89.5%
That's under the current scenario, in which women are weaker. In your 'safer' scenario, women will be the majority. hence hold the strength. My point lies in that it would in fact, not be safer.
My linked example (and the majority of my post) was based on domestic violence scenarios, wherein women were either equally likely or more likely to initiate physical violence.
The strong do harm. Power is the main factor determining perpetration and victimhood. In situations where women hold power-- like a relationship or an all-female prison-- we see that the rates of abuse and violence between men and women are roughly the same.
News flash, humans suck about the same regardless of what's between their legs.
Nowhere in my comment did I say that men don't currently commit more crimes. I actually fucking read the papers I linked before sending quotes. Maybe you should learn to read too
Still talking about inmates? All right, let's talk about this scenario in which there are around 10% of men. There will be no domestic violence because there will be no relationships with men, anything else?
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u/Fickle-Cartoonist466 26d ago
I mean there's only so many man-hating feminists I can meet (this is irl mind you, this isn't even social media skewing perceptions) before I don't want to interact with ANY of them anymore 🥀💔
From my experience, not every feminist is a #killallmen misandrist. But every #killallmen misandrist is also a feminist
A few bad apples make the entire orchard shut down from expensive lawsuits or whatever the phrase says