r/antimeme 26d ago

❌ Anti-Hate ❌ Just a vocal minority

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u/Teboski78 26d ago

Yes. And it could be fair to argue that they shouldn’t be labeled feminists since real feminists definitionally just want equality. Or at most equity.

Same as when Conservative Republicans call themselves “Libertarian”. Right before screaming for their tax dollars to be used to deport people.

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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl 26d ago

Unfortunately, that breaks down about as well as when various church groups try to say that they’re the only real believers in god/christ. Which one gets to claim The title? Protestants? Jewish people? Baptists? Catholics? Third Age Reform Baptists? Mormons?

Declaring that a group doesn’t belong to the term is well and good, but unfortunately there’s absolutely no means of enforcement that boots bad actors out or declares that they cannot and should not be allowed to co-opt the name. You can’t exactly go after someone for copyright infringement on the concept of feminism. 

Best thing for it is to just accept the ideologies that matter— that there are indeed a great many issues that affect women disproportionately and worse than men, and that those issues deserve our effort to find solutions and to shift our collective thinking. 

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u/lemons7472 25d ago edited 25d ago

Yeah. “No true Scotsman” just deflects criticism of the movement or members of it, because even then, what is a real feminist? Susan B Anthony was consedered a real feminist, and she’s controversial for apparently being racist, which tracks with how the movement and similar movements like the women sufferage movement, overall (those “real”feminist) used to treat others such as POC, but historically they are still recognized as feminist. So are they just not feminist anymore now when it comes to criticism?

What a “real” and “fake” feminist is in terms of verbal matters, matters very little because people’s ideals of equality seem to be difference, and people’s actual actions can either match or be different than what they say. It’s why even other feminist may describe the movement differently if asked.