It'd help if those same men (and I say this as a cis guy) would stop bringing up men's issues only and exclusively as a whataboutism in response to women's/trans rights/issues.
If you cared about these issues so much, you wouldn't have weaponized them to this extent.
This is incredibly true and frustrating. No genuine, nuanced conversation can be had about misandry or things that men struggle with without a crowd of incels gathering and excitedly nodding and clapping.
For me it’s not incels, but even other “feminist” and feminist ally’s who don’t help by either downplaying the issue, or blaming the issue back onto men as a gotcha.
On one side you have male incels who agree with you because they think that women are evil and are responsible for the suffering of all men. On the other side you have female incels who cannot imagine a man having human emotions or suffering. Both of these archetypes tend to be very loud and chronically online so their stances tend to be over represented on the internet.
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u/TheReaperAbides 29d ago
It'd help if those same men (and I say this as a cis guy) would stop bringing up men's issues only and exclusively as a whataboutism in response to women's/trans rights/issues.
If you cared about these issues so much, you wouldn't have weaponized them to this extent.