The Rockies run differential is -349. That's the worst in the modern era (since 1900). They have 31 games left

[u/Lupdalup]

Do they dig out of this hole or get close to -400?

[u/Future-Turtle]

Seasons end. Records live forever.

[u/Lukey_Jangs → u/Future-Turtle]

Hang the banner!

[u/oogieball → u/Lukey_Jangs]

Rocktember?

[u/WabbitCZEN]

"We've clearly passed the point of no return. So let's keep going and see what happens." - The Rockies.

[u/Patrick2701 → u/WabbitCZEN]

Tank until it’s like operation desert storm

[u/catchemist117 → u/Patrick2701]

They’ve past that, they’re aiming for the fall of France.

[u/Thromnomnomok → u/catchemist117]

The Rockies have more tanks than the Battle of Kursk

[u/JoaquinBenoit → u/Thromnomnomok]

They’re on par with the North Korean military.

[u/Creative_Watch2857 → u/catchemist117]

Collapse of rome if you will

[u/ThinkSoftware → u/WabbitCZEN]

If it gets negative enough it loops around and becomes really positive

[u/-NolanVoid-]

Fingers crossed for -400. There's really nothing left to hope for with this dumpster fire club.

[u/Nylo_Debaser → u/-NolanVoid-]

You do have Dinger and a great ballpark. Shame about the owner.

[u/oogieball → u/-NolanVoid-]

"Maybe there's treasure at the bottom of this hole we're digging!"

[u/Eo292]

I mean to be quite honest, given the fact that they’d have to play positive for 31 games, and they’re objectively a bad, bad team, I don’t see how they play out of it, and I think it will 100 p stick.

I don’t know how to describe it, I think it’s mostly youth and promise, but this team feels so so much better than the 24 White Sox; like at least Tovar, Dollander, etc. and especially Goodman feel like parts of future MLB rosters in a way only Crochet did last year. Plus maybe I’m biased off this week, but games against the Rockies don’t feel like gimmes in the way White Sox games did.

Idk what do others think?

[u/Prestigious-Swan6161 → u/Eo292]

They are a different team now than they were at the start of the year. I don't know why but they are a .400 to .450 winning percentage team over the past couple months. There was a point at which it legitimately looked like they might not win 40 games, at this point they will comfortably pass that mark, and likely the white sox' win total from last year as well.

[u/ThatsBushLeague → u/Eo292]

I don't disagree with what you said. But I'll add that there is division/exposure bias in your take of whitesox vs Rockies. As there is with mine. And even further, with my own team.

The Whitesox last year in reality were a 55 win team. They won 41 games. You can't accidentally win games now like you could in the past. You have to try every day, especially when you're terrible. This years whitesox players are trying to win. They suck, but they are trying. And they are pacing for 58 wins. You watch their games and you realize so many more of them this year, as opposed to last year, come down to one defensive blunder, one big hit by the other team, one poorly timed GIDP. That's how they are losing games more often this year. Its not just roll over and okay let figure out how to get 20 more outs so we can go out. Vaughn, Crochet and Kopech could just as easily be seen last year as the guys you listed on the Rockies.

But now you have the Rockies this year, pulling a 2024 whitesox or the 2023 A's. They are just rolling over and not even trying to win. If they were trying to win, they'd probably be a 55 win team.

And how quickly that can turn around comes back to my bias with the Royals. I was screaming in to the void in 2023 because the Royals weren't TRYING to win. They publicly called it "an evaluation season" every fucking day. And they lost 106 games. Then, miraculously, last year with the same players they had one of the biggest win increases in the sports history and made the playoffs. And again this year with the same roster are doing it again.

This Rockies team isn't historically bad in terms of talent. They are historically bad in terms of trying to win. Just like the 2023 A's and Royals or the 2024 whitesox.

And all those teams have a handful of players you look at and go, "hey that's a good core, they could definitely win some games, if they actually tried to."

[u/nachosmind → u/ThatsBushLeague]

And the owners/media are only going to make it worse. Every small market team will have a ‘what are we playing for’ season unless there is some danger to being the worse team in history - and not just losing a top 10 draft pick’ there has to be a consequence and a process to calling out owners that just won’t be competitive or you’ll continue losing out to the NFL & NBA

[u/ThatsBushLeague → u/nachosmind]

The first step is for fans to realize tanking is fucking stupid. It has resulted in WS like 2/250 tries. It has ended in playoff series wins no more frequently than just randomly rolling the dice for those franchises. The success rate is worse than just...not tanking. So why do fans root for it?

Because billionaire owners ran propaganda campaigns to convince fans it was a good idea. Because it makes them money. So now every time a team drops one game below 500 a certain subset of clowns start screaming to sell everything, fire everyone, and burn the team to the ground.

And tanking isn't any more successful in any other sport either. Its just a terrible strategy period. But brains are weird. People cling to the Astros as if thats the norm and not the extreme outlier. But man does it make the owner a lot of money!

The only way it stops is if fans stop supporting literally the dumbest strategy in sports.

[u/Rah_Rah_RU_Rah → u/ThatsBushLeague]

the Spurs 20-year dynasty was born from tanking for Tim. its objectively the right way to go if you're mediocre and dont have a future given your circumstances.

not a big fan of it, but "literally the dumbest strategy in sports" is a reach

[u/ThatsBushLeague → u/Rah_Rah_RU_Rah]

But brains are weird. People cling to the Astros as if thats the norm and not the extreme outlier.

You literally just did this right here.

Completely ignoring all the failures of Charlotte and Detroit and Washington etc etc. You did the thing I specifically said. You pointed to a player drafted almost 30 years ago to prove the point that what I said is inaccurate.

Come on man. If you're going to reject my statement, at least don't do exactly what I said people do when you do it.

[u/Rah_Rah_RU_Rah → u/ThatsBushLeague]

you're not comparing it to the alternative of trying to gut through it. how often is that a deadend for a fucked team?

[u/ThatsBushLeague → u/Rah_Rah_RU_Rah]

I mean, those aren't the only two options. You can make trades for actual MLB players. You can pay your own guys to buy out more years of control. You can spend money in free agency. And historically, teams have found sustained success through finding unscouted channels. Like building academies in other countries, purchasing players from Japan and Korea. You can draft guys on shorter time lines. You can find market inefficiencies and exploit them.

Teams have even done things outside the realm of baseball in order to make their baseball team better. Like buying real estate surrounding the stadium and developing it for a common and obvious example. Then you can actually spend that money on the team instead of pocketing it.

None of those things require you to just bite the bullet, have the lowest possible payroll, and lose 100 games.

There are plenty of other ways to try and compete that have resulted in banners.

[u/Rah_Rah_RU_Rah → u/ThatsBushLeague]

have the lowest possible payroll

I see where the problem is, I dont believe you have to slash payroll to do it, and tanking vs. full rebuild are different things

[u/rbhindepmo → u/ThatsBushLeague]

Fun with stats (or “stats”): the 2024 White Sox finished 7 wins behind their Pythag record (41 wins, 48 Pythag)

The 2025 White Sox are currently 10 games behind their Pythag record (47 wins, 57 Pythag) with 32 games left.

[u/EmptyPin8621 → u/Eo292]

I agree. I think these Rockies could win any random fluke game but I was genuinely surprised whenever the white soxs won last year

[u/-NolanVoid- → u/Eo292]

You'd have a different opinion if you watched or listened to every game this year.

[u/GunpeiYokai]

The most exciting race to 400 since Tony Gwynn in '94

[u/Educational_Box7143]

They've started to develop a pretty solid core group of hitters with Goodman, Beck and Tovar. They really need to draft and develop better starting pitching though. Have no idea how Freeland, Senzatela and Marquez have survived as long as they have with the organization.

[u/-NolanVoid- → u/Educational_Box7143]

Goodman has 2 golden sombreros this year. Shows promise but needs serious work on his plate discipline.

Tovar is a one pitch wonder who either grounds out/ flies out on the first pitch or hacks at low and away pitches outside the zone and strikes out. Golden glove defender, average at best, very inconsistent hitter.

[u/Sheepies123]

The game they scored 17 runs their run differential was +1

[u/Radiant_Sherbert7272]

I think they get to -400, and I wouldn't be surprised if they pass -400.

[u/Probably_Slower]

Sorry guys, our season series is already over, so we can't help out any more.

[u/yes_its_him]

It's not like they always get clobbered. It just feels that way.

The Rockies this season have outscored the Athletics of whereever, the Marlins, the Cardinals and the Nationals, the latter two in aggregate across two series.

The problem has come in particular from those series where they got outscored by 20+ runs in three games. That's not good. It hardly ever happens to most teams. It happened to the Rockies against the Orioles, Red Sox, Tigers and Blue Jays, evenly split between home and road series. "Interdivisional play highly overrated" sayeth the Rockies.

[u/RabbitOpposite2371]

Unless some stupid things happen the rockiers will finish better than the 2024 sox

[u/JonTheWizard]

Mile-high misery abound.

[u/rockiesfan4ever]

Is this going to get posted every day

[u/ReggieNJ]

Just got swept and outscored by the Pirates 18-1. Not looking good.

[u/beefytrout]

we gonna do this every day, or...

[u/Lupdalup → u/beefytrout]

We might. They were tied with the 1932 Red Sox coming into today but now they have the record. I'm pretty sure this is the first time they have it to themselves. They might win by ten tomorrow and lose the record, who knows? I think they'll definitely have it by the seasons end

[u/EmuMan10 → u/beefytrout]

We did with the white Sox last year

[u/SpicyP43905]

It’s literally -282.

Have we just normalized posting fake stats for karma here?

[u/NotKaz → u/SpicyP43905]

.282 is their win percentage

[u/Haribo_Happy_Cola → u/SpicyP43905]

Have we just normalized posting stupid comments for no reason here?

[u/Radiant_Sherbert7272 → u/SpicyP43905]

That's their win percentage genius.

[u/Dunnoaboutu → u/SpicyP43905]

You’re not getting the karma you want off this fake stat.

[u/ASTROoctopus → u/SpicyP43905]

Where are you seeing that? I see multiple sources that agree with OP's -349

[u/SpicyP43905 → u/ASTROoctopus]

OP has alts.

[u/ASTROoctopus → u/SpicyP43905]

I'm sure they used their secret deep-state network at ESPN and MLB.com to fake an easily verifiable number for fake internet points on reddit

[u/SpicyP43905 → u/ASTROoctopus]

Yup.

You’re catching on.

Took you long enough.

[u/Lupdalup → u/SpicyP43905]

I'm surprised a blue jays fan is skeptical. Your team beat the living shit out of them a few weeks ago

[u/-NolanVoid- → u/SpicyP43905]

How does your foot taste?

[u/SpicyP43905 → u/-NolanVoid-]

Want me to DM you a photo?

Edit: lol, the reply abd block.

Accuse someone of having nasty feet, then when they offer to prove otherwise, run.

[u/-NolanVoid- → u/SpicyP43905]

Of you with your foot in your mouth? No thanks.

I watch every game and manually track stats. Their run differential is in the negative 300's.

[u/lkopij123]

This is the true metric for worst team of all time

[u/SirPsychoSquints → u/lkopij123]

Sure, but you still have to Coors-adjust. The 1932 Red Sox were outscored 915-566… oh the Rockies are worse. 840-491.

[u/RigelOrionBeta → u/lkopij123]

Pythagoras would be proud