r/bjj • u/nojobnoproblem • 2d ago
General Discussion Anyone here ever had BJJ fail them in a real self-defense situation? What went wrong?
Has anybody tried to use bjj in a self defense situation/street fight and have it not work out? what went wrong you think?
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u/commonsearchterm 2d ago
a serious answer...
I got attacked when i was pretty drunk waiting for a bus to go home. i was not not thinking clearly at all. i ended up taking him down, got on top and tried to do a nogi ezikiel on him. he bit me lol. then i almost threw up, pretty sure i had a concussion from when he punched me from behind.
if i was sober, it would have gone way different, would have just take the back, rnc and end the fight quick pretty quickly. it went on for as long as it did because i was like doing dumb shit.
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u/BillMurraysTesticle 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 1d ago
Ezekiel from top as your go to choke in a street fight is hilarious.
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u/CutsAPromo ⬜⬜ White Belt 2d ago
How did it end
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u/commonsearchterm 2d ago
police eventually came, i went to the hospital worried about getting some infection from the bite, which the doctors told me isn't actually a concern.
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u/Last_Parable 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2d ago
Idk I've got quite an extensive background in not medicine and I've seen that human bites can easily get a nasty infection
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u/Smattering82 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
My friend got attacked in Germany by guys trying to steal his cell phone and wallet. He beat the shit out of the 3 of them. But one of them bit hit his thumb in the fight. 2 weeks later he had a staph infection and they almost had to amputate his hand luckily they stopped it but he still lost the tip of his thumb.
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u/lIIllIIIll 1d ago
Wtf????
Did the bite not break the skin? Was it over clothing?
If yes to either they're right. Otherwise I hope this wasn't recent.
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u/eurostepGumby 1d ago
I honestly think anti-bite bjj needs to be part of self-defense bjj because the number of times I've heard of this happening is too many.
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u/Exact_Sea_2501 ⬜⬜ White Belt 1d ago
Ohh shit, I always thought that defending your BJJ by biting was just a myth.
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u/Icy_Astronom 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 18h ago
I tried to ezekiel a guy from top in a bar fight 😂 goofball shit.
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u/Arr_Deee 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
BJJ has taught me that I don’t want to get in a street fight. Concrete hurts and I’d prefer to make it to class on Monday.
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u/JsonR 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 2d ago
I confronted someone who had stolen my car. It really would have been easy, but he had an accomplice standing by. I called the police instead. Cell phone 1, BJJ 0
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u/PMmeuroneweirdtrick 2d ago
I would have called my coach instead. 2v2 and we're pulling guard.
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u/lueckestman 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
I thought i had de-escalated a confrontation outside a bar i was heading into and the other guy was leaving. After finally not ending up in a real fight I found out later that night the guy smashed my side mirror on my car. But the guy was like 60 and fat and short. Probably would have hit his head on the concrete and died if I took him down. But sometimes I still wish I smoked him.
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u/According-District59 2d ago
A guy in my city got stabbed to death trying to break up a fight in a very normal, not shady bar in a good area of town
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u/lueckestman 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
Crazy things can happen in fights even without real weapons. Had a buddy get hit with a beer bottle on his wrist and ended up needing ligaments reattached.
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u/Scoopity_scoopp 2d ago
Not answering the question really.
But Funny enough I’m more aware of what could go wrong now that I’m more prepared to defend myself than I was when I had no clue what I was doing lmao.
So more confident but simultaneously a little more scared
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u/Operation-Bad-Boy 2d ago
Train with striking once in a while so you don’t get too comfortable relying on sport stuff that won’t work if someone is punching you.
Multi person brawl, best of luck
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u/_prelude 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
That's a bit off topic but after starting mma alongside bjj I found that a biggest problem is just accepting bottom position and just "chill" there, either in guard or in bottom of dominant positions. There's this mentality taught that be patient, composed, breathe, find your moment and than escape. Or just play guard etc. After my yet limited experience I feel that "the floor is lava" mentality works way better.
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u/2y4n 2d ago
And that's what every old school Prof will tell you: Top position is superior in a self defense situation. Pulling guard or bottom play style really is sports-BJJ.
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u/_prelude 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
Yeah I mean thats obvious. Yet you see people train in bjj envoirement differently. If you do that long enough you'd just get used to it and even trying MMA, getting taken down people by default will just play guard and stuff, or just try to catch a breath or two in guard.
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u/RyanBJJ 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2d ago
Yeah, same for me. I started going to MMA after 4 years of BJJ. I got mounted from a takedown put two hands on one hip to try and shrimp out and got hammer fisted into oblivion 🤷🏼♂️🤣 I quickly realised why most MMA guys will give up their back in those situations
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u/Evening-Green2271 1d ago
This is because you never learned the version of BJJ that isn't lame. There is a legit answer for how to deal with this scenario that involves keeping your hips elevated so that either (1) they cant balance to strike (2) they plant their feet/knees to strike leaving tons of space to escape, they do neither but (3) post a hand for balance so you know where strikes come from.
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u/Tricky_Run4566 2d ago
100%. You do not want to be on the bottom. Gravity is against everything you do and you'll struggle more than being in top position.
I think it's accepted more because often you're rolling with other people who know what they're doing so you very very often can't end up on top every time unless you're very experienced.
You've almost got no option but to be on the bottom for a huge amount of your time training, so that mentality of it's OK, be calm and keep on trying to do x Y z is taught so people aren't just in useless positions 90% of the time
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u/Sicilian_Apizza 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2d ago
So do you train this way every so often? With a "just stand up" mentality ?
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u/_prelude 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
I adopted it for pure grappling also. If I end up on bottom I just either immediately try to stand up or attack. Bottom game = 0 catching breaths, 0 stalling. Constant movement to make space and stand up or attacks so they have to keep defending.
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u/Sicilian_Apizza 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 1d ago
Do you have tips for this in the Gi? Kinda like Craig Jones "just stand up" but for Gi
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u/_prelude 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 1d ago
I mean ultimately gi/ no-gi the only thing would change here are techniques/ gripping strategies right? I'd say you'll have to get the competing approach of "not giving points away" and just stand up of sloppy sweeps or takedowns where you are not properly controlled. Learn to turtle effectively when necessary and just work from there. Add some takedown defense/ offense. Submeta may be a good place to start or just plain youtube. For starters I just changed the approach to the way I grapple and troubleshot when faced problems.
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u/FXTraderMatt 2d ago
That’s pretty much the default for MMA and any situation or ruleset where strikes are allowed.
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u/oldwhiteoak Brown Belt 1d ago
there's a reason why wrestling is a sport designed for warfare going back thousands of years and BJJ isn't.
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u/PyrricVictory 1d ago
To be fair to BJJ a lot of the developments that are maladaptive for IRL fighting started when BJJ as a sport got big and now things are swinging the other way. If BJJ just scored takedowns, top control, and escapes higher you'd see a more realistic game. As is things are already improving.
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u/Altruistic_Log_7148 2d ago
As a wee young lad, I started with boxing and moved to mma. Went to wrestling in high school. Bjj after graduation.
I got jumped by 3 people, and the biggest thing that helped me was wrestling and distance management.
They were pretty much exclusively throwing huge hooks, cause anyone jumping someone generally hasn't ever stepped foot in a gym. only 1 of them managed to hit me once, and it was a sloppy sideways punch.
Due to them getting in the way of each other. One guy threw a huge telegraphed overhand right. Rolled under it, his buddy came behind him and tried doing the same thing, and I rolled that too, but the 240 lb gassed fatty that I had just rolled under mustered the rest of his gas to try to drag me to the floor. I posted super hard, got my ACL blown out, but didn't go to the floor, and shoved the other guy away.
The guy that tried dragging me down was on his hands and knees on the floor sucking air, and I shouted at the other two people to get the fuck away from me. The guy that initiated it said, "You're coming towards me," and I thought about it for a second and was like I am now actually. Told them to fuck off, and they all ran off like roaches. Honestly still have a tiny regret that I didn't kick the guy on the floor in the face with a soccer kick. As an older man now I know it was good I didn't, but also fuck him.
I was out of training for about 4 months and ended up getting surgery on my ACL later after realizing how bad it was, and got my meniscus trimmed. The recovery time post surgery was about 8 months for me.
Lesson learned, don't step into a DV situation, just call the cops. I didn't accomplish anything by trying to help.
But if you wanna defend yourself, wrestling is huge and so is footwork. Don't let them get your back against the wall, and know how to throw a clean 1-2. I threw only 2 punches, and other than the fucked knee I didn't get the shit kicked out of me.
Don't try to intervene with drunken idiots, just call the cops.
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u/Tricky_Run4566 2d ago
Jab cross hook is all you need really. Mix it up in different orders and learn range control. Basics are king.
Good on you bud
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u/Think_Warning_8370 2d ago
What an awesome narration. Can you describe a bit more about how the ACL got blown? Writing as someone who has had his blown twice in training now; I want to learn more about the injury and how to prevent it. ‘240lb gassed fatty’ has me literally chuckling out loud…
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u/tamati_nz 2d ago
Oof mate of mine was in a bar fight, knocked the other guy out, grabbed him and him in a standing rear choke. As the guy passed out he spasmed and because of the way my mate was standing with all his weight on one leg at an awkward angle his tibia shattered. He was in SAS and couldnt be operated on until his Co got there and had doc sign a waiver incase he said anything classified while under the influence of the drugs. Ended his military career as his leg never fully regained its function.
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u/OzneBjj 2d ago
This is very true.
Since starting Mma, I realised I was way too comfortable relying on bjj. If you've never trained when people are striking you, let me assure you it's a while different game when that happens.
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u/Tricky_Run4566 2d ago
I must admit it gets me now. I used to fight k1 amateur for years and was very used to punches kicks knees etc coming my way. Now I've gotten pretty comfortable in bjj. It makes me not enjoy the sport as much as I always think, he could knee me here, elbow would come over the top etc
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u/gman9094 1d ago
We focus on both sport and self defense.
We will play “bad guy” and slap the other person while they try to pass guard. It’s a lot of fun.
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u/Competitive_Dog_7829 2d ago
My toddler started kicking and squirming for the diaper change and my control wasn't up to par
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u/_prelude 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
My little shitling is sometimes turning so hard during diaper change that I'm genuinely considering neon belly him.
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u/AssignmentRare7849 2d ago
Reverse s mount, with both your buttcheeks on the floor on one side of him, thank me later
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u/lIIllIIIll 1d ago
I like to do a sort of reverse kezure Kesa Gatame where you have the far side covered but your sitting out the reverse direction, to better change diaper
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u/JiuJitsuBoxer 1d ago
Babyjitsu is insane. Bridging away, playing guard against my arms, elbow-knee connection to prevent diapers. Next time I'll go straight for the guillotine to get it changed.
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u/robbitybobs 2d ago
In my years bouncing I have seen a few guys ambitiously pull guard and get dropped on concrete and quite a few more try to handle a bigger guy who outmuscles them and they just look sorta confused why its not working while they get pounded.
On the other hand if you both fall to the ground and the person who knows bjj lands or gets on top its usually a wrap
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u/AccordingRecording21 2d ago
I got knocked the fuck out a couple times… hard to finish the sub when the lights go out
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u/JiuJitsuBoxer 1d ago
What sub were you trying, and how did they hit you?
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u/AccordingRecording21 1d ago
You’re interested in a specific time? I got knocked out by a slam in my first Bjj comp back in 2014 - didn’t wanna let go a triangle when bigger op stood up. The ground hit me. It did the job. I got knocked out trying to invert & heel hook Trenton but his fists & elbows stopped my progress. One time I had knee-on-belly on a guy at my friends bday party & his gf hit me with the Smirnoff bottle on the head. I did not witness, nor do I remember, but it did the trick. I was not planning on subbing him, just control. Woke up with a bunch of staples in the back of my head. I got false cracked by a handful of uncles before any grappling could engage too… if you’re just trying to be weird?
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u/jollygreenspartan 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2d ago
I responded as a police officer to a bar fight where a man was stabbed. The victim was a black belt at my gym who part time bounced at the bar. He was dealing with shithead one and got outflanked by shithead two and was knifed in the back very close to his kidney.
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u/KaleemX 2d ago
Tragic, but it's not BJJ failing (altho bjj has many failings) - and a lot of these responses aren't. Nothing could defend u.froma.k ife attack.from.behind..
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u/Significant-Royal-37 ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 2d ago
1) punched in head
2) shot
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u/houndus89 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2d ago
Jeez what kind of action movie life are you living?
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u/Significant-Royal-37 ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 2d ago
not me personally lol
but e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leandro_Lo#Death_and_aftermath
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u/aksimir 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2d ago
You're right, but I'm not sure if Lo is the best example of this.
From the witnesses statements, Lo controlled the guy but was convinced by friend to let him go. The guy walked away from the altercation like it was over prior to pulling the gun once out of meele range.
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u/Any-Wrongdoer8001 ⬜⬜ White Belt 2d ago
I pulled guard in the middle of an armed robbery…
They laughed, called me gay and took my wife
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u/Tacokolache 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 1d ago
I did some work as a bouncer, made a name for myself. Got called in to a bar in key west that had gotten pretty rowdy with some local toughs.
Local gangsters wanted to take over the bar, so it was up to me and my associates to stop him. We refused to serve the local gangsters and chaos ensued.
Note: Conor McGregor ended up working for the gang and made my job much tougher. Also, my whole scenario totally sucked balls in comparison to similar scenario at the same place back in 1989.
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u/JiuJitsuBoxer 1d ago
Do you know why Conor joined the gang stuff? And was this before he got rich and famous? Because I cannot understand it at all if it was after
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u/Tacokolache 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 1d ago
It’s a “Road House” reference.
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u/JiuJitsuBoxer 1d ago
Ah never watched that one. Conor is involved in a real gang tho, kinahan cartel
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u/AppropriateLeg6419 2d ago edited 2d ago
A friend once attempt a kneebar in a fight, after he was attacked by 2 guys. It was a great kneebar… until the other guy kicked him in the head.
Edit as everyone is being ridiculous: I was obviously involved in the fight as well, not just watching. I am also a 135 lb woman who was therefore slightly struggling to deal with my own side of the fight. Stop being weirdos. This was just an example of a poor move to use in a street fight.
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u/Previous_Way_8788 2d ago
True story i was the guy that kicked him. Your friend was a dick and the kneebar had no finishing mechanics. You got fear taps in the gym brah
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u/AppropriateLeg6419 2d ago
A tap’s a tap 😭
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u/Previous_Way_8788 2d ago
This mentality is why people tough out subs in mma and comp. When adrenaline is on, you wont feel how fucked your elbow or acl is. The damage has to be catastrophic.
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u/CutsAPromo ⬜⬜ White Belt 2d ago
Did he have it fully locked in?
Got to just go for it in that situation and not wait for a tap
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u/Post_Nuclear_Messiah 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
I used to work security at a nightclub. I got bit on the forearm while going for a RNC on a coked out idiot trying to start fights with random people. Quickly decided that a suplex was a better option.
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u/tishimself1107 2d ago
BJJ is great in a 1 v 1 situation. Npt so great in a multiperson situation. Which is true for most martial arts unless you got KO power in the hands.
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u/chungfr 2d ago
Even in a striking situation, there are documented cases where people got their fists broken after throwing punches in street fights.
I do both BJJ and Muay Thai, and I have doubts about my fists staying intact if I were to throw hard punches without gloves.
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u/thetruebigfudge 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 2d ago
Elbows and open palm strikes never went bad for me. I was a bouncer at a pretty dodgy club for about 3 years, never threw a punch but I threw plenty of elbows, never did me wrong
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u/Comprehensive_Loss25 2d ago edited 21h ago
Bas Rutten has good videos on how to use the palms and wrist for striking.
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u/Tricky_Run4566 2d ago
Once I was really drunk in a bar, like can't remember most of the night drunk.
Guy hits me from behind whilst I'm carrying two drinks. I go down. Stand up and start scanning around me, where is he etc. See him with a group of friends semi holding him back.. He's shouting etc
I remember flying into him and throwing palm strikes. Next thing I remember I woke up outside on my feet talking to the bouncers, asking what happened and them just laughing, then suddenly being relatively stone cold sober. Never experienced anything like it. I don't know if I got beaten up by the dudes, if I did relatively well at all and the bouncers knocked me out, if it amounted to nothing and I got dragged out. I've no fucking idea.
I don't remember what happened before the incident or how it ended, or after. All I remember is the punch and the immediate response.
I have horrible thoughts about drunk me flying into this group and throwing terrible form palm strikes which make me look like I'm slap fighting some weirdo that can't throw a punch. Must've looked like a sloppy idiot
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u/gotta-earn-it ⬜⬜ White Belt 1d ago
as someone who's blacked out a few times and just reading this from a neutral perspective, sounds like the bouncers liked you at least. they probably wouldn't be talking casually with someone they didn't like. they probably stopped the fight and pulled you out. if you got your ass kicked you would have noticed it the next day
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u/Tricky_Run4566 1d ago
That's a fair point. I hadn't really thought about that even though it makes logical sense. It's a bit of a rough shop so I figured the worst but you're right, if they'd kicked my ass I'd have felt it more than the sore head the next day.
Thanks for the perspective brother
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u/Bubby_Mang 1d ago
I got a concussion in a car accident once and this is exactly my experience. I walked several hundred yards to someones front step and just woke up on my feet.
Craziest thing I have ever experienced. It's like the sentience leaves your body but you're still there interacting.
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u/FTFOatl 2d ago
I got into a shoving situation at the local bar... After about 5 rounds of just shoving each other I grabbed both sleeves, jumped, and tried to get him into a flying closed guard. I couldn't lock my ankles together behind him and ended up hitting the back of my head pretty hard on concrete. I was out cold.... Woke up the next morning naked with my thumb in my asshole and a huge erection. Can't tell you what happened when I was out.
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u/OnlyFails951 ⬜⬜ White Belt 2d ago
Not me, but SWIM had grappling fail related to oil based pepper spray. He pepper sprayed someone; the person grabbed him and they fell to the ground. He became affected by the irritant during the struggle and was fighting blind. Both men became very slippery, as well as the floor, thus grappling control was difficult. They essentially pepper spray oil wrestled for a few minutes and needed rescue from several other people to resolve the conflict. This person had ~25 years martial arts and police training.
Lesson: if you intend to grapple, maybe don't unload your pepper spray on your target.
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u/MrHamsall 1d ago
Who is SWIM?
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u/OnlyFails951 ⬜⬜ White Belt 1d ago
Someone who isn't me
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u/MrHamsall 1d ago
Ohhhh ahahahha I went way longer than I would like to admit searching YouTube, google, instagram, etc. for this mythical martial artist known as SWIM
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u/Informal-Boss8968 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 2d ago
Many years ago I was working security for a grocery store and was trying to stop a guy from shoplifting. He started to swing at me so I level changed, got behind him and picked him up to slam him. Both of us ended up hitting our head on the concrete at the same time and both of us went to sleep. I woke up before him and was able to get on top and cuff him 😂
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u/qtipinspector ⬛🟥⬛ 10th Planet SF 2d ago
I’ve used bjj multiple times ( I work in clubs/ bars). My tried and true is Get punched - duck under- back take. drag dipshit outside to bouncers. and I armlocked my GM after hours at blue belt in the VIP couches. lol. Don’t get paid enough now
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u/2piece-and-a-biscut- 2d ago
A story where bjj failed you…glad you instead used your answer to brag.
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u/emperorsludge ⬜⬜ White Belt 1d ago
No, but there are a lot of techniques I keep getting taught where I can’t help but think “this is just gonna get me kicked right in the fuckin mouth huh”
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u/Throw_away58390 1d ago
Yup. We learn a lot of moves in sport Jiu Jitsu that aren’t applicable to real life—but it’s still okay to learn them as long as you understand what moves you should actually use in a real fight (pressure testing your jitz with gloves and/or doing MMA rounds is a good way to do so). For example, I love ashi-garami but if I were ever in a real fight I would never intentionally enter the legs. I would try to keep top position and I would absolutely not try any subs off my back, just control and ground and pound.
That said, I disagree with the sentiment that I see often online that we should never train sport bjj. At the end of the day, we are training a sport. Yes it’s a martial art, yes it’s a combat sport, but it’s still just a sport. The likelihood of you getting into a street fight is super low, and should be even lower if you follow the number one self-defense principle: de-escalate or run away first. And if you get into a fight despite your best efforts, if the guy has a knife or a gun you’re in a terrible spot anyway. You could be Rener Gracie for all I care—the odds would still be stacked against you. Why miss out on the fun of learning all these goofy sport moves and focus completely on “self-defense bjj” when you can simply learn both?
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u/CrazySwayze82 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2d ago
I was drunk at a bachelor party. Shot a double leg on another grappler friend, he stuffed it, and I scraped the shit out of my forehead. Had a giant scar on my F head for the next week.
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u/AffectionateSlice816 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 2d ago
Wrestling and Judo that you should be learning in your BJJ classes should help. Hit them with the planet. Do not go to that planet. Throw them and run away
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u/BeBearAwareOK ⬛🟥⬛ Rorden Gracie Shitposting Academy - Associate Professor 2d ago edited 2d ago
Nah, cause I'm alive and I got this survivorship bias.
You talked to Leandro?
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u/Previous_Way_8788 2d ago
Leandro beat him fair and square using JIU JITSU. He then LET HIM GO and he CAME BACK WITH A GUN because he was a COP with a bruised ego.
What are you on about?
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u/lueckestman 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
Hes on about that its just not worth it most of the time.
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u/todei79 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2d ago
This. The Leandro inquiry was a low blow. Coming from a bb too? Oof. Sad.
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u/Last_Parable 🟪🟪 Purple Belt 2d ago
Almost as if having a bb doesn't magically make you less of a moron
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u/chupacabra5150 2d ago
The other guy didn't believe in BJJ and just stood up. I ruined a pair of pants butt scooting for nothing
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u/Mobile-Travel-6131 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
Watched someone try to pull gaurd in a real fight, didn't go well.
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u/brodude17 2d ago
Nope as soon as that first stripe got put on my belt I became and indestructible weapon of force
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u/GrapplingCapybara 1d ago
Buddy of mine got in a fight in the club right after winning Brazilian nationals in the purple belt division. He and his friends got in a fight against a couple of dudes, he was doing well until someone hit him from behind, he fell and multiple people just started stomping him. He said he doesn't remember much after that. On the other hand I have another friend which is a kickboxing black belt and BJJ black belt. He would usually just avoid going to the ground. The fact that he is 6'7 also helps. Told me he knocked out multiple guys at once and got into more brawls than he can remember.. but yeah, being a really good striker and being always sober gives you a huge advantage.
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u/BrandnewThrowaway82 1d ago
I do Muay Thai and BJJ because if I’m attempting a tripod sweep from Xguard in a streetfight all kinds of things have gone wrong.
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u/Senior_Ad282 ⬛️🟥⬛️ Black Belt 1d ago
Not me, but a good buddy of mine was at the tip of the spear as far as special forces goes at the height of Afghanistan. He’d been training with us for quite a while and told us about a time he’d turned a corner and there was a guy too close for him to pull his weapon up. So he shot a double on him. And the dude sprawled perfectly… gave him a mild heart attack “fuck. This guy knows how to fight too.” Ended up taking the guys back and was able to zip tie his hands and was able to talk to the guy later about wrestling before they hauled him off to some CIA black site.
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u/lemonjuice707 ⬜⬜ White Belt 2d ago
I always tell everyone in class, I’m here for exercise and worst come to worst ill use BJJ. If not, I got my boy smith and Wesson to back me up
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u/Texan_BJJ 2d ago
You tell everyone that in class..?
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u/Intelligent-Baker424 ⬜⬜ White Belt 2d ago
Yeah. I was in the bathroom after class and he slid under the stall just to tell me.
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u/SkateB4Death 2d ago
He told me while we were drilling oil checks
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u/The_Orphanizer ⬜⬜ White Belt 2d ago
Can confirm. Oil checks and daddy's milk behind the Wendy's.
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u/someguyonredd1t 1d ago
Sort of. I train at the same gym. The waiver has a section that says "lemonjuice707 is here for exercise, and worst comes to worst, he'll use BJJ. If not, he has his boy Smith & Wesson to back him up." Just had to initial by that to confirm I understood.
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u/GodPromisedUs 2d ago
Got into a fight at a metal show , threw the dude in an arm-bar , then got stomped out by his friends. Luckily the security saved me. My friends went outside to go eat but I really wanted to watch the band play so I stayed by myself .
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u/GusCaesar 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 2d ago
Well it worked initially and I restrained the guy, but then I let him go and he punched me, I was OK though ,learnt my lesson 😅
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u/Donotfollowmyadvice ⬜⬜ White Belt 1d ago
I failed to break her closed guard, I uki kukied her cervix and 34 years later my son is hosting his own grappling invitational this coming weekend. Not sure if that went wrong or right?
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u/GameMasterPC 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 2d ago
Not me, of course, but I will never forget Leandro Lo - he was so good at BJJ, but all that training did nothing to protect him from an untrained asshole with a gun.
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u/SmoothAd2415 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 2d ago
Got into a fight at the college party. I got my eye almost gauged out guillotining a dude.
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u/Wilderness13 1d ago
drunk wrestling in high school, trying to fight from guard, tossed up a triangle and got slammed 3 times onto concrete. folks, do not attempt a triangle choke on a street fight unless you weigh 300 lbs
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u/CleanMasterpiece6911 1d ago
Surely the only way Jits works is if you are on top. Except like a hail mary paul craig triangle or jumping a gilly
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u/Narrow-Page-749 1d ago
There’s a story about Saulo Ribeiro losing a fight at a bar. But not sure if it’s true or not
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u/Waiting-onMVIS 1d ago
Yeah it failed me.. I put a 16 year old who through a punch at me at a party that my son had after I asked him to leave. I submitted him and the detective wanted to charge me with 2nd degree assault. Our system is broken. I held him yet I’m the bad guy. Bullshit
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u/TheGreatKimura-Holio 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 1d ago
Not BJJ but the Crocs I was wearing yeeted me head first right into the guy’s knee. He didn’t even hit me he just laughed.
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u/thefckingleadsrweak 🟪🟪 I can’t let you get close! 1d ago
I actually could not BELIEVE how effective bjj was in a “real” setting. I was drunk at a bar, talking with a buddy who trains and one who doesn’t. I guess buddy who doesn’t train felt somehow challenged by the conversation? Idk he got kind of weird about it, then later in the night launched a sneak attack on me. I was shocked how quickly i was on his back and choking the living fuck out of him.
Granted we were both pretty drunk, and we’re both friends so neither one of us really was going to hurt the other. but i ended the night thinking “damn, who’d have thought this shit actually works that well” lmao, it was like having a super power
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u/044SHUTDOWN 1d ago
Was involved in a lot of street fights ( exp in my 15-16 but those fights were against grown adults mostly), I was competed at boxing that time and most of the street fights were ended up by one/two hard punches. Started doing bjj when I was about 21, at 25 I scored 2nd place at national mma championship.
I used bjj or wrestling only one time - when some dude was trying to single leg me: I sprawled and pushed his head down. He looks up at me like - “ah this guy knows what he is doing”, and he didn’t want that smoke anymore.
If I would fight someone I will prefer to keep my distance and will do striking instead of grappling/bjj - but if some one would be able to take me down or want to scramble - welcome I’m ready 🤙🏻
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u/Sandevistanman 19h ago
Hell no, sht saved me twice.
Once some big dude was trying to f me up at a bar, kept swinging and I never did anything just moved and dodged until he rushed * football player * fell to the ground landed a few punches and I got a nice knee bar; felt his knee pop and he wanted to stop, held it till the cops came. Tried to punch me from that position, couldn’t.
2nd worked private security at a comedy club, rowdy customers started some bs after the show, brawl broke out, manager who’s never been in a fight in his life nearly knocked out, saw 2-3 of my coworkers fall, the customers were samoans, I think. Long story short, I found the main guy who started the whole entire brawl. I went up behind him and did a reverse bow and arrow choke, put him to sleep in less than a few seconds and instead of throwing them on the ground, I grabbed his back and let him down slow. Everyone was in shock at what happened and the brawl stopped once he was on the ground.
Can’t even count how many times Thai boxing came in clutch too.
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u/naturallin 13h ago
I think boxing is best for multiple assailants. Even Muay Thai leg kicks aren’t good against multiple ppl. Boxing is faster and you can dodge better. Maybe you could add judo to boxing. Get close and throw. Rinse and repeat.
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u/Jitsisadumbword 7h ago
I was leaving a club with a close female friend and a guy I knew from work. As we were leaving, I was talking and joking with them and a guy nearby thought I said something about him. Him and his buddy followed us out onto the street where we were getting a cab and they split up. I told my guy friend to watch one of them and the other guy came around from the other side and attacked me. He sucker punched me, but not hard. I wrapped him up and we fell to the ground with me on his back laying with my back on the ground. Hooks in, I was choking him out. My buddy, instead of watching the other guy, was watching me and the dude ran around him and soccer kicked me right in the head. I woke up as the ambulance arrived. When I asked my friend why he didn’t stop the guy, he said he didn’t know he was gonna do that… 🤦🏻♂️
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u/Busy_Safety_9651 🟦🟦 Blue Belt 6h ago
It helped me more times than not. Got into a fight with some chaps at a bar. Was able to catch one guy and hit him with an osoto gari the other 2 guys then commenced to put the hands on my friend and I. Barely managed to survive by grabbing one of them and tripping him.
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u/RCAF_orwhatever Brown Belt 2d ago
Was involved in a (roughly) 20 v 6 brawl outside some bars in Cyprus. I was with the 6, and the first punch thrown knocked one of our guys out cold.
I will say that in the melee that followed BJJ was useful for off balancing attackers trying to stomp on me once I was knocked down; but at a certain point knowing how to curl into a fetal position ball and protect my head (learned from rugby) was much more useful than my jitz.