r/cancer • u/AnimalIllustrious736 • Jul 20 '25
Patient Terminally ill at 17. I'm scared.
I have Pontine Glioma. I just want to vent if that's okay. The world's so unfair, I didn't get to live my whole life yet. I'm just scared, I'm really scared. I won't get to see my siblings grow up, marry my girlfriend, make my parents retire... I don't want to die.
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u/SnooBeans3982 Jul 20 '25
I’m sorry brother. I’m terminally ill at 29 myself with a 1-4 month life expectancy. I’ve found peace with it though so it is possible. This life isn’t the end. Just try to enjoy everyday as much as you can. Death is waiting for ALL OF US, not just you. It’s the only thing promised in life. We’re here for a few years, then we move on, so don’t dwell on it
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u/Sure-Revenue9030 Jul 20 '25
Exactly.. believe in life after death
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u/SnooBeans3982 Jul 20 '25
I’ve actually never been better. It’s funny, other than the pain(which the meds are doing a pretty good job at controlling), once you accept that you’re dying, there isn’t really much to worry about anymore except enjoying your last days. I also don’t have a wife or kids or anything so things might be different for someone like that
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u/Vast-Marionberry-824 Jul 20 '25
@SnooBeans. I’m so gutted for both you and OP. I’m not where you are (yet) as treatment for stage 4 appendix cancer is working at the moment.
I came to terms upfront, on getting my diagnosis, with living a far shorter life. It was so helpful for me too to make peace with that. Time is so precious and we tend to waste it when it seems we have endless days stretching over the horizon. I know now not to do that. I too am enjoying each day as it comes at a lovely cruisy pace doing what I love doing within my limitations, and appreciating just being and spending time with loved ones. Not looking back or forward. Just focusing on the here and now.
I send you and OP lots of love and positive vibes ❤️🩹
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u/SnooBeans3982 Jul 21 '25
That’s the thing, we don’t have endless days stretching over the horizon. None of us do . But most people just don’t see it . Everyone thinks they’re gonna live until 90+, but that’s just not true. Even if they do, that’s just a blip in time in the grand scheme of things. If you would’ve told me two years ago that I’d be in hospice for lung cancer at 29, I would’ve thought you were crazy. Life‘s unpredictable, all we can do is just enjoy the time we have here and now
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u/Cottoncandytree Jul 22 '25
Reminds me of “be happy for this moment, this moment is your life”
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u/SnooBeans3982 Jul 24 '25
Yup, if you think about it, life isn’t about all the mundane things you do everyday. It’s about the moments. Those type of moments that you think about and bring a smile to your face. Try to create as many as you can
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u/danguapo 10d ago
I read through your posts, and I’m aware you are Muslim. I pray that you find and have the strength and the mental peace during this time, I know this is so hard man. Im pleading with you to find Christ and accept him as God. Jesus is God man, one with the Father and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit revealed itself to me when I was at my lowest. Jesus died for our sins and took the punishment that all of us deserve, so that we may have eternal life man. He is the way and the only way, and the truth. You are being deceived brother, and I mean this out of pure love because I want you to be saved. I’m begging you
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u/ratt57 Jul 21 '25
As someone who has been dealing with recurrent lung cancer and running out of treatment options, I can't seem to get to the thinking stage you're at, although I try. I'm terrified of dying and feel like I have so many things I still want to do in my life. I keep thinking even on my death bed I'll be fighting to stay alive. I think I have a lot of issues with being able to give up control.
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u/Pap3rStreetSoapCo Jul 23 '25
People are just wired differently, I think. Can pretty much guarantee I would be someone who switches back and forth between peace and acceptance, and anger, fear, and sadness.
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u/Strict-Material-4084 Jul 27 '25
Check out Joe Tippens Fenbendazole kcco tv. it knocked my stage 4 cancer out in 3 months, what do you got to Lose.??
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Jul 20 '25
You are NOT alone. Please know that. I'm so sorry for what you're facing and I hope for peace for you. I had an idea- I hope this is okay to suggest. Why not have a ceremony of sorts, you and your girlfriend? Something private, just the two of you, as I imagine it would be very bittersweet and difficult. Or you could lean the other way, invite friends and family. You are here now and it sounds like you both have the intention to spend your lives together. Surely there is a way you can honour both the stage you're in now, the reality of things, and recognise in a more official way your intentions for the relationship and what you would've hoped to do in the future, if your timeline looked different.
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u/Neat_Wave_6234 Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
I hear you and I see you. I would also like to say that you don’t owe anyone a performance about how brave you are right now, or ever.
If you are mad, be mad. Or scared. Or any other negative emotion. That’s all part of being alive and this experience.
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u/user_name_in_use_ Jul 20 '25
To everyone else commenting don’t lose hope and to keep living life to the fullest— do YOU have this diagnosis and are YOU living by your own advice? OP— I have same diagnosis and not getting or feeling any better as time goes on. I have become dependent on steroids just to buy me more time and have the ability to quiet down some of the symptoms that come with this cancer, and have been able to try to make some trips but it is NOT without hardships. Meds are starting to not work as good anymore. You are allowed to feel angry and robbed of a life you had hoped and dreamed to live. It’s much easier said than done to try to be positive, focus on the good in the now, etc. The reality is no one truly knows what it’s like to be in your shoes, yes we can relate with diagnosis but we don’t have same relationships or dreams or aspirations or “past versions” we once used to be and are grieving. Many of us with this same diagnosis are also in different phases of the disease process too which may further stress or anger you when comparing your case to someone else. Don’t avoid your feelings— and speak up and advocate for yourself once you start to feel things are changing and going downhill. Don’t wait too long to confide in your family, friends, loved ones and help them accept this new reality you are facing too— and don’t let them downplay the situation. Let your voice be heard and remembered.
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u/sadArtax Jul 21 '25
Im so sorry for you both. I only lived this situation through my daughter's battle (8). Vent away, friend. If you can get a doctor to prescribe ketamine therapy, do it! It was like a miracle drug for my daughter's mental health while fighting this beast.
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u/user_name_in_use_ Jul 21 '25
This has been recommended by my therapist, I will look more seriously into it thank you for sharing
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u/lcgrrl2017 Jul 20 '25
Life dealt you a shitty hand. I am so sorry.
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u/bjauny Jul 20 '25
Totally OK to vent, feel free to. There's not much I can say, and it might sound foolish, but try to live every day fully. You could end up living several years, don't make them full of grief and despair.
Right now your feelings are absolutely legitimate. Express them, feel them, it's OK. Vent, cry, scream and shout if it helps. But don't give up. There are support groups and communities to help you.
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u/fuidiot Jul 20 '25
I’m so sorry, you’re far too young for this to be happening to you. Life is unfair, it really can be.
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u/ant_clip Jul 20 '25
This is always a safe place to scream when you need to, most of us understand. I am so sorry you have to go through this, it’s beyond unfair.
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u/HughJaniceX Jul 20 '25
We are here for you & you are in my thoughts, my family is praying for comfort over you & over your family
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u/LucidHams Jul 20 '25
Hey friend- we’re here for you. Have you joined any support groups? How many siblings do you have?
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u/Fit_Negotiation5830 Jul 20 '25
my brother lost his fight and had so much to live for but as you said life is not fair / I beat mine (this time) and still wonder why ?????
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u/Anxious_Eagle9092 Jul 20 '25
I’m soooooo very sad for you and your condition. This is horrible for you and everyone in your life. Have you had these conversations with everyone you care about? Are you getting enough support? We never know what life brings us. All we can do is deal with it as it comes and you are getting much more to deal with than other 17 year olds. Do you have a therapist? It’s important to emotionally process your emotions as you are going through this life changing event. Are you in the United States? If so then call your insurance to get a therapist (or have your mom call) if you don’t have one yet. If you are outside the US then I’m not sure of the procedure for getting mental health services.
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u/kzysik Jul 20 '25
Vent all you need. This is so unfair. You shouldn’t have to worry about this at 17.
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u/Cloudsearcher Jul 20 '25
You are right, life’s not fair. You had to learn the life is not fair in perhaps the harshest fashion. I’m only Stage 3 PTC but I’ve struggled too. It’s okay to struggle.
I’ve chosen to focus on enjoying everything I can, right in the here and now. No more deadlines, no unnecessary responsibilities (unless fulfilling them gives me joy).
Dunno, if this helps, but it’s what I am doing and it’s helping me.
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u/Diligent-Activity-70 Stage IVc CRC adenocarcinoma February 2022 Jul 20 '25
Life is incredibly unfair sometimes 💜
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u/Superb-Presence-8413 Jul 20 '25
Heavenly Father,
I come before you with a heart full of hope and a spirit seeking peace. I ask for your divine healing touch, who is facing the weight of cancer. You are the Great Physician, and in You, all things are possible. Bring strength to their body, clarity to their mind, and peace to their soul. Calm every fear and quiet anxious thought. May each treatment be guided by your wisdom and each cell in their body respond with healing and restoration. Surround them with love-- Family, friends and caregivers filled with compassion and skill. Let your presence be felt in every moment of weakness and in every small victory.
Lord even in suffering, let there be hope. Even in uncertainty, let there be faith. Grant rest, resilience, and renewal.
in your merch, I pray for healing - physically, emotionally and spiritually. Amen.
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u/Office-Dull Jul 23 '25
Wow this is a great prayer. I thank God that he touched your heart to remind this young man that God is truly a healer and although the doctors say one thing God has the final say🙏🏾
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u/exceedglitter Jul 25 '25
Our Father is faithful. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Light.
I pray that everyone on this forum struggling against this terrible condition finds the peace that only He can offer.
God bless you all ❤️
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u/damageddude 46 y/o wife stage 4 breast cancer in liver; passed June '17 Jul 20 '25
Sorry you are being shortchanged. Life is not fair. Live as much life as you can while still healthy enough. Bucket list time.
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u/YoNoxoXo21 Jul 20 '25
Vent on young man. I hope you beat this thing. Don’t give up, I you find comfort in God and Jesus Christ. Cling to them in the good and bad. The Bible likens death to sleep, it’s not a permanent state. I also support the other comments about joining a support group
John 11:25-26
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this
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u/Ok_Stable_819 Jul 20 '25
Lord Jesus, heal this child please. If it is your will Lord, please heal him. Be there for him in this time Lord Jesus. I beg you Lord, if he is to leave earth soon, take him to rest with you! In Jesus name I beg you to hear every prayer of his, and the ones who love him.
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u/Infamous-Frame8335 Jul 20 '25
Till the time you can move travel with your family and loved ones and enjoy. Make memories and give them memories.
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u/timeskape Jul 21 '25
I just want to say I am so proud of you, my man.
Though we've never met face to face, I am really glad I've been able to be on the same timeline in history together.
If you look up in the sky and see the Sun, Moon, and stars, know that I will be looking at the same Sun, Moon, and the stars as you do.
I will be shouting out your name, cheering and celebrating our existence, and cry the happy tears because our life happened.
Sending peace and love.
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u/Actuallyprettybland Jul 22 '25
OP — I don’t want you to die either. Spend this time noticing the beautiful things about life. The birds singing to you. The sun shining for you. The steam rising up from a cup of coffee, even if you don’t like drinking it just soak in the smell. The smile of a loved one. The warm, gentle touch of your girlfriend. The lights in the city at night. Your life may be short, but it’s no less beautiful and no less meaningful.
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u/AnimalIllustrious736 Jul 22 '25
Sorry for not replying to you guys, I’ve just been really heartbroken. I can’t erase the devastated face of my parents from my mind when they received the news. My siblings and girlfriend’s been crying nonstop. I don’t know how to go on.
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u/Pap3rStreetSoapCo Jul 23 '25
I knows it ain’t shit right now, but perhaps you can take a little bit of solace in the fact that your people are currently so devastated because they love you so much. A lot of us take that for granted, and some folks don’t even have it, so maybe you can put some of your focus into celebrating that love, like we all should be doing every day. Perhaps it will bring you some peace going forward.
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u/nikolaiwhomi Jul 20 '25
Grieving your own self and life is a really awful thing to experience at any age, but 17 feels especially unfair. We are here and we are listening.
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u/GONDA1616 Jul 21 '25
I’m sorry you are here. Cancer does not discriminate against anyone unfortunately. Vent all you need.
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u/armyprof Jul 21 '25
I’m sorry son. I know it’s hard.
But right now what matters is what’s next. Get right with God young man. You do that and I promise that fear goes away. You need help with that pm me and I’ll tell you about it.
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u/inkrml Jul 21 '25
37M terminally ill. It sucks and is so unfair. But you can still focus that energy when you have days that you feel good on doing some awesome things. My wife and I go camping and hiking. We take our dogs for trips. We may just play video games all day. Just whatever we want to do, gets done most days. Not diminishing your fear or disregarding it. Just wanted to offer this one outlook on life that has been truly beneficial to me outside of the fear and grief.
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u/JenWorrom Jul 21 '25
I'm listening, and this just really truly sucks. I pray that your journey is filled with love. Hugs
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u/Nolofinwe_2782 Jul 21 '25
Im so sorry, man
Im not technically terminal yet, but I've got a cap on my life. If I make it to my 50s (I'm 43), it would be like winning the lottery
But what you're dealing with this about is unfair As It Gets
The best advice I can give you is to live every day, man, do what you want to f****** do don't do s*** you don't want to do
Spend time with those you love and let the world see your heart
We will all return to Stardust - maybe I'll see you out there
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u/Pale_Following3133 Jul 23 '25
everyone is going to die eventually! including your loved ones and your friends, they might live for a year , two , or 40, they will all die eventually. all what we live is a second and the rest is just an illusion ! enjoy the rest of your life and don't worry so much!
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u/MotherEnthusiasm Jul 20 '25
To help with your very understandable fear I could suggest guided psychedelic mushroom therapy. Tim Ferris has a lot of information about this. And why God has given you this situation to face I cannot imagine. I hope you have boundless love and support to help you through
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u/Pmr15yourfriend Jul 20 '25
Get to know God before leaving, you’ll change your mind about leaving this world. Read the Bible.
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u/BustaKode Jul 20 '25
Why down voted? There are people that believe in the strength that God can provide. People in this thread are offering prayers for his soul. Prayers work.
Maybe if the world would seek God instead of all the other "vices" maybe the world would be a better place.
Maybe I am out of line here, but faith in God works.
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u/ithinklovexist Jul 20 '25
Don’t give up hope. My partner had brain and testicular cancer at 17. He lived another 29 years and had a happy fulfilling life. Vent whenever you need to, but plan for a future.
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u/_coolbluewater_ Jul 20 '25
This is well meaning but not kind. When my sister was dying, people told me she shouldn’t stop fighting and look for clinical trials. It’s incredibly insensitive to the actual situation.
OP, I am thinking of you. Everything you are feeling is so incredibly valid. I wish you strength and love.
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u/Alone-Register-95 Jul 20 '25
This men has one of the worst cancer that exits. Living more than 1 year with DIPG is extremely strange
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u/sadArtax Jul 21 '25
Please research before making comments like this. My daughter had dipg, terminal at diagnosis. Its just about the most aggressive one out there.
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u/kickcancerout Jul 20 '25
It’s so unfair I’m so sorry you’re in this fucked up boat with us all. Sending you so much love.
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u/sadArtax Jul 21 '25
Im so sorry OP. My daughter had DIPG. Its so unfair. Vent away. You deserve to.
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u/Nkengaroo cholangiocarcinoma Jul 21 '25
I'm so sorry. That sucks so badly. I wish I could give you a hug.
Vent away. We're listening.
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u/Candid_Complex3338 Jul 21 '25
Message me bro, if you wanna talk. I feel sorry for you. Let me know if I can be of any help
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u/chainsawabraham Jul 21 '25
One day at a time. You can worry about not being alive for a long time, or you can try to live right now. Im going on years 5 stage 4 and it's the only way I can get out of bed.
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u/Neverstopthinking09 Jul 21 '25
Im so sorry :( we are all here for you to vent. Wish I could give you a hug, I can't begin to imagine 😔
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u/Electronic_Caramel58 Jul 21 '25
Make a social media documenting your life now…the day to day, the mundane, it doesn’t matter do it. Document the life you’re living right now so you leave something behind for your family and the rest of us. Share how you feel, what you’re going through and I know it will help someone.
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u/trixxxen Jul 21 '25
Mom here, please know you have a safe space here, even if it’s just virtually.
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u/DazedNConfused020 Jul 21 '25
Man after reading this my issues seem so much smaller. I’m so sorry this is awful and you don’t deserve this at all.
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u/SeaPerformance4203 Jul 21 '25
Sorry to hear that it’s not fair your right . I truly feel bad for you . Please give your life to Jesus Christ and I will pray for you . I hope you get healed
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u/Throw_Me_Away_1738 tonsil- HPV status undetermined Jul 21 '25
Nobody wants to be in this cancer club, sorry you got an aggressive one. We are hear to listen, offer advice, or whatever we can do. Just let it out here if you want. No judgements, just love.
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u/Accomplished-Pay-246 Jul 22 '25
That is rough. I never got to live the life I wanted. Life is unfair so I get it. It sucks getting sick.
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u/Mountain-Sky-1717 Jul 22 '25
I am trying to find the words. On my cancer journey, I have been gripped with fear and it seems like the more I tried to escape the fear, the more it consumed me. And the moments I was able to sink into it, fully acknowledge it, I felt a kind of release. Vent away. Vent to the high heavens. And then vent some more. And also know that you are loved. Not just by your loved ones, your family and friends, but everyone who has walked in your path, in front, alongside, and behind. I believe that there is more to experience beyond this physical body, beyond what we can imagine or comprehend. There is something more for us. We are with you, and we will meet you there… ❤️
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u/Ok_Pool_2486 Jul 23 '25
I am so sorry you are going thru this. It’s ok to be angry, anyone would be. Take comfort in the love and support you have in family and friends. Praying for you.
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u/Alxis_746 Jul 23 '25
Hi sweetie, I’m freshly 20 and I live with terminal AML, it you ever want to talk to someone, whos in a similar position dont be scared to reach out, I’ll always listen. This goes to anyone here, there’s comfort in shared pain ❤️. Stay strong.
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u/RelationshipAway6498 Jul 23 '25
I’m sorry you’re here. Im sure you are scared. Prayers for your peace and never give up hope
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u/teksurface Jul 23 '25
I’m so fuckin sorry. I say while you have the time dive into Buddhism and Taoism. Look into energy work as well. These things are otherworldly. When life looks grim dive into the metaphysical. I’ve seen more miracles through that. I don’t have a terminal disease but I have severe untreatable major depressive disorder and ocd. My life is miserable. My survival rate isn’t all that good either. But Taoism has given me better acceptance and understanding of the world. I know nothing can really make you feel better in this moment. But we all here deeply care about you. May the force be with you.
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u/Mitchie1216 Jul 23 '25
I can't make you feel better but I can give some advice. When I was diagnosed with cancer I had a 27% chance survival. Here's what I can share with you that helped.
Talk to your oncologist about enrolling in one of the latest most promising clinical trial studies. Preferably one in the second stage.
Focus your energy, you'll be confused, sad, angry. Take that energy and focus it on getting well and doing things that will make you healthier as you face your battle. Juice carrots, spinach, and beets, go for a walk with your favorite person or yourself, whatever makes you feel better. Research clinical trials to show your oncologist. Enjoy today.
Pray, this might be difficult. I can tell you prayer works. You don't have to understand everything about God, you're not supposed to. But, I promise he is listening and prayers get answered. I had a near death experience. I was there, believe it or not, God and death are nothing to be afraid of. Heaven is nothing but love and acceptance. It's like being wrapped in a warm blanket of a love that you can never imagine.
When you need to close your eyes, rest. You will need it.
Love as hard as you can, love as long as you can.
God be with you in your journey, may you find peace and wellness. Amen
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u/hondaridr58 Jul 23 '25
I'm sorry, young man. I'm listening.
There is more ahead for you. In this life, and the next.
Godspeed.
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u/Faroundfout1983 Jul 23 '25
My heart goes out to you , you are a young person in the prime of your life and have been dealt a very unfair crushing blow …. Drain every last drop .. experience everything you can manage .. be the version of yourself who you would be with endless potential !!! Love hard and leave what is needed .. i too have cancer .. im 42 .. mine is likely curable but still unknown yet .. i have kids who i dont know how much time i will be allowed to see all the things you have described.. but cancer has given me a different view on a lot of things and now i do what i want .. i make sure to ask for what i want and need and i remove people who are not adding anything to my life !! I hope you get as much time as humanly possible with your condition .. i hope for you to have a high quality of life for as long as humanly possible.. hugs friend .. this journey is a hard pill to swallow and your feelings are so valid ….
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u/qwerty_772 Jul 24 '25
I'm terribly sorry. This is just heartwrenching. Life is so unfair, I'm so sorry. No 17 year old should have to go through this. I'm thinking of you and your family.
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u/United-Hedgehog1320 Jul 24 '25
I’ve been there I found the only one to turn to is The Lord. The Lord is always there for you.
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u/Mountain_Union2284 Jul 24 '25
So sorry for everyone having to go through the cancer beast. When I read these posts, I feel so selfish for ever feeling sorry for myself with my tiny problems when others are dealing with real and serious issues. I also believe there is something more, and better, after this life. God would not have given us a soul just to die with the body.
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u/MacaronPotential1245 Jul 25 '25
Hi. If it makes you feel better i dont now if i have cancer but i removed a very dangerous polyp from my bowel. I also have fibroids cyst fibroadenomas and a miningioma in my spinal cord. All these things they might turn to cancer if the didnt already. Im 43 and a mom of a 10 years daughter which i love more than anything in the world. My father died when i was 14. He was 46 and i thing something genetic is going on like lynch syndrome and i didnt research earlier. Now im feel very ill like terminal. Before all these i was seeing dreams of paradise. My father had a home my deceased dogs they were all with him and let me tell you it was the most beautiful place i have never seen .i also dream that i went in a bathroom someone came to take me from my family husband and my daughter and i run with fear. Then infront of a mirror i transformed into a younger version of me and i put on a necklace with pink ston in it and i wasn't afraid anymore. I went out of the bathroom and touch my dads head. I told him i should be more careful with my genes dad and he smile to me. I saw my daughter crying but i couldnt feel the sorrow anymore. I had a new life there. A husband and children that die earlier and need a father and a mother. I also i was teaching children because im a teacher there at gods home. These dreams are always the same for three years and o cant escape from them. Then i run to doctors and try to find out if im dying but the just found all the above and nothing else. I also saw jesus in the last few days in my dreams i never in my life saw his face. He talked to me and show me the sun. All i want to say there is an afterlife that i didnt believe it was. My dreams unfortunately always come true and now even if it is a beautiful life i saw i want my daughter and see her growing up. I want to be there for her. Im sorry but cancer is a very sneaky disease. I hope you find peace and there is recantation i saw it multiple times even if i didnt want to see it.
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u/MacaronPotential1245 Jul 25 '25
Im a teacher i forgot to mention these. I mean regarnation. I also have Friends there.
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u/MacaronPotential1245 Jul 25 '25
Please now that i write all of these to make you feel better about life and death. I totally cant prectid the future iam not a medium. I am just a kindergarten teacher with dreams that they come true. I wish they didn't and i also pray to jesus to give another at least ten years to raised my daughter. I will go for genetic testing so she will now what i have and be tested and careful with screening earlier than i did. I wish someone would told me to screen earlier and go for genetic testing.
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u/Legitimate_Part6665 Jul 26 '25
I suggest practicing a religion and helping people out and being kind before you go. It will most likely help you. I'm sorry this is happening to you.
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u/Independent_Pay_2662 Jul 27 '25
I understand buddy I lost my wife June 29th she had stage 4 colon cancer she fought hard for 2 and a half years we had 2 Kids together all scans showed cancer was stable then about a month ago she was having breathing problems and put on oxygen 2weeks after that she was going to the ER the chemo had quit working and the cancer was between her lungs the started giving her morphine and was put on home hospice care one week later 3 days after my 45 birthday she passed but with all that she had going on in those 2 and a half years she lived everyday to the fullest with the kids and with me she traveled to places she wanted to see with her family and friends she worked her job right up to the day she went to the ER she was a warrior and that warrior sprit lives in you go out and live and spend as much time with your family and friends I’ll be praying for you and all other cancer patients
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u/Minute_Ad_7878 Jul 20 '25
You can still do those things. Who says you can't? Statiscs are not concrete. There are outliers. Not enough to skew the charts. But it is possible. Do everything you can with a purpose. Focus on little wins.walk 6 miles today then 6.25 tomorrow.little wins.
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u/jasongu79 Jul 21 '25
I have Salivary Duct Carcinoma, it's very aggressive, I've been following Joe Tippens' protocol and taking Ivermectin, tumor stable for 8 months. Hope this helps
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u/ScienceNLaw Jul 20 '25
I know someone who went through this and she was treated at Vanderbilt. She is cancer free.
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u/Winter-Ward Jul 20 '25
I’m listening. I hear you.