r/circlebroke • u/pHorniCaiTe • Nov 07 '17
/r/Incels has been banned
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edit: An Incel's response
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u/seattelite Nov 07 '17
Really?
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u/pHorniCaiTe Nov 07 '17
yup. /r/incels
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u/DishwashingWingnut Nov 07 '17
I had to check, because I really thought the admins wouldn't do it. Unfuckable hate nerds, the lot of them.
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u/Godfodder Nov 07 '17
Jesus. Even the internet doesn't want them.
Maybe they'll gain some self awareness and realize much of the shit in their lives is their own fault for being terrible people. Haha. Maybe.
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u/Throwtheincelaway Nov 08 '17
It's my fault I was born ugly, was bullied and girls have always ignored me/used to laugh at me.
Okay
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u/smacksaw Nov 08 '17
Here's the thing - and I genuinely hope you do answer:
Lots of ugly people get married and have kids.
Plenty of people who were bullied and teased got married and have kids.
There are even people who fit both descriptions who have kids.
I have proven that:
Being ugly
Bullying victim
Ignored by women
Mocked by females
Are all things that people have managed to overcome.
What else could it be? Do you have ANY OTHER IDEAS?
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u/ronlovestwizzlers Nov 08 '17
a lot of black people in the US become financially successful. It doesn't mean that oppression isn't real.
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u/enfait Nov 08 '17 edited Nov 08 '17
Lack of sex/lack of intimacy now counts as oppression? I'm floored that there was even comparison with the racial discrimination faced by black people. They are not even in the same universe.
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u/ATLracing Nov 24 '17
Sex and intimacy are central to human happiness. They're in Maslow's hierarchy of needs for Christ's sake. How on earth can you be so callous?
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u/enfait Nov 26 '17 edited Nov 27 '17
Supporting the idea that the systemic discrimination faced by black people is at all comparable to some guy not getting a date or sex is utterly ridiculous.
I'm so sick of self-absorbed people comparing the pedestrian difficulties they face in life to the historic oppression faced by black people.
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u/ATLracing Nov 27 '17
Humans are social creatures—our happiness is contingent upon feeling socially valuable. If you aren't willing to accept this basic fact of human psychology, I'd say your capacity for introspection is severely lacking.
And don't tell me I'm self-absorbed. I'm not some incel appealing for sympathy; I just have a basic understanding of psychology. You're the one who's too consumed with your own pet issues (yeah, I see your posts on /r/blackladies) to think about anyone else. For shame..
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u/enfait Nov 27 '17 edited Nov 27 '17
You are so utterly self-absorbed it's astounding. The fact that you are going to ignore what the sub and its members stood for and proclaim "But what about poor incels?" tells me you lack basic empathy and any type of moral compass.
Who do you think you are defending? People who are advocating the rape of women. The enslavement of women. Child rape. That was what the sub was about. That is why it was banned. If you expect me to coddle a bunch of people who don't even see me as human because they feel wronged that women won't have sex with them, then you are delusional.
You and others actually feel that their "oppression"(disgusting behavior on display) is on par with systemic discrimination that black people have dealt with--it's ridiculous.
What. A. Crock. Of. Shit.
Go get some perspective.
Yeah, I post on blackladies, because you are Reddit incarnate. I dislike having to deal with stereotypical redditors like yourself, people who are "progressive" to the extent that the sensibilities of the stereotypical redditor are not disturbed.
Your lack of awareness is astounding--there is so much ongoing discussion in the mainstream about sexual assault, sexual harassment, toxic masculinity, etc. but all you seem to be concerned about are the "poor incels" on the former incel subreddit.
Consider this my last response to you.
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u/ATLracing Nov 27 '17
you lack basic empathy and any type of moral compass
Real original.. Instead of regurgitating this trite, self-congratulatory circlebroke chestnut, try actually examining your own beliefs.
Who do you think you are defending? People who are advocating the rape of women.
No, I'm not defending those cretins—/r/incels was a cesspit, and its existence wasn't doing anyone (least of all, its users) any good. However, unlike you and your ilk, I'm not too busy peddling empathy™ to actually examine and understand other groups' mindsets (wait, isn't there a word for this?).
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u/Leemarov Nov 08 '17
Of course oppression is real. Being ugly is real, being black, being bullied, being otherwise disadvantaged, are all things that have happened to real people. But people have managed to overcome those things before. It's not easy, and failure is possible, but it can be done. Just not by sitting in a sub all day listening to an echo chamber bitch about its collective misfortunes. I haven't kept up with all the incel content that closely but I believe removing yourself from that community is the first step to actual improvement.
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u/DeepStuffRicky Nov 08 '17
Dude after the way you guys have made it clear you feel about women - excuse me, Chad-humping subhuman femoid scum - don't even start with that. You know what chicks like? Guys who think they're human and treat them accordingly. That's so hot.
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u/lalala253 Nov 08 '17
dude. post pics. most of the time you guys posted pictures where you only look like you need some proper grooming and smile. yet you guys wanted some nose job, jaw operation etc etc.
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u/DeepStuffRicky Nov 08 '17
I once saw a picture of a regular poster on that board. He was honestly fucking adorable (to look at). I mean he was a little androgynous but really, really cute. The cuteness was undercut by the fact that he's a raving little woman-hating piece of crap, of course, but if you went by just the picture he was the kind of guy who would have no trouble turning female heads. Looks are so far from being the issue with most of these guys, and that's part of what they fail to understand about social interaction.
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u/Godfodder Nov 08 '17
It's your fault if you can't find peace with it. I'm sorry you've been dealt a shitty hand but there are many people in the world, myself included, who have overcome bullying an rejection. Find people who like you for you. Solidarity in self pity is only going to make your situation worse.
Start taking care of yourself. Nobody owes you anything.
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u/kidshitstuff Nov 08 '17
The popular thing to do in this day and age is use people these people to feel better about ourselves. To completely abandon and give up on them. And isolated and in the company of others similarly forsaken, they sink lower, and lower, and we continue to laugh, unaware we're creating monsters.
"Every one is really responsible to all men for all men and for everything" -Fyodor Dostoevsky
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u/thehumangoomba Nov 09 '17
So was I, dude.
Now in a relationship with another intelligent being (of the opposite gender) because we like each other and had plenty of social experiences together.
It's not the be all and end all. Life is more than finding a mate.
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u/Darth_Squid Nov 08 '17
That voice sounds like famous cartoon character and for some reason I can't place it. Help???
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u/Darth_Squid Nov 08 '17
Lemongrab
Holy fuck yes that's it.
Knew it wasn't Morty.
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u/viperex Nov 08 '17
Poor incels roaming free in the outside world. Will they go to /r9k/ now?
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u/dividezero Nov 08 '17
i thought they'd pop on over to voat a long time ago since that's a really slimy place they'd fit in nicely. But so far, it looks like they haven't migrated yet.
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u/DishwashingWingnut Nov 07 '17
It's about fucking time. Maybe /r/the_donald and /r/uncensorednews will be next...
Nah, the admins are just gonna sit on their thumbs until they brew up a real nice fart, then sniff for a bit while the nazis run rampant on their site.
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u/Naptownfellow Nov 08 '17
I never realized how racist and cancerous r/uncensorednews is. Just looked and they are horrible.
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u/Greallon Nov 08 '17
And if you look in the header, that symbol between "Uncensored" and "News" is a valknut. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valknut#Modern_use
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u/Naptownfellow Nov 08 '17
Holy shit. Not even trying to hide there racism. Wow. What pieces of shit.
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u/PUBLIQclopAccountant Nov 09 '17
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u/GardevoirRose Nov 09 '17
That page does not exist.
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u/PUBLIQclopAccountant Nov 09 '17
Here's what the message said:
That's actually the cutie mark of one of the ponies in the MLP S7 finale
I guess my spoiler CSS hack did not work for you and instead got interpreted as a real link by your browser or app.
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u/iwtbo Nov 08 '17
It wasn't always like that.
From what I recall, that sub was created to cover the Pulse night club shooting without having threads deleted. I wonder when it became a racist cesspool because I was subbed to it when it was created, and unshbbed recently because I went to check it out and there there was nothing but racist articles being posted.
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Nov 08 '17 edited Nov 19 '17
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u/jerkstorefranchisee Nov 08 '17
For a bunch of logical rational free thinking skeptics, reddit sure does believe anything that’s marketed the right way
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Nov 08 '17 edited Nov 19 '17
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u/jerkstorefranchisee Nov 08 '17
Yeah, it’s not about getting better news, it’s about getting the news that your mom doesn’t want you to hear.
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Nov 08 '17
It's because people who think news is censored are just people who desperately want the world to fit their narrative when it doesn't, so they assume all news is fake instead.
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Nov 08 '17 edited Nov 08 '17
To be fair, T_D, while they support political ideas I abhor, are usually not as toxic as incels or fatpeoplehate were. They just hate on liberals and circlejerk about winning the election last year. Don't know much about uncensored news, I can only assume that it's the reddit version of breitbart, in which case that link is staying blue.
EDIT: Nevermind, apparently they were actively planning the charlottesville rally and one of the users was the one who killed a woman. Burn it all to the ground.
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u/HelloAnnyong Nov 08 '17
EDIT: Nevermind, apparently they were actively planning the charlottesville rally and one of the users was the one who killed a woman. Burn it all to the ground.
The guy who murdered his parents for being leftists was also a very active T_D user.
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Nov 08 '17
Yeah, I thought it was just a right-wing circlejerk until today, turns out it's much worse than that. Possibly the worst sub reddit has ever had, assuming no others have led to literal murder.
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u/Ss6aaU6hiOZN1hJIsZF6 Nov 08 '17
reddit used to have subs explicitly dedicated to trafficking in child porn so this is still up for debate
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u/MustSeeReason Nov 08 '17
hold on. A certain user frequenting a sub should not lead to the sub being banned. a sub should be banned if the sub posts actively condone hate and violence.
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u/HelloAnnyong Nov 08 '17
- I didn't argue that T_D should be banned.
- I didn't argue that T_D should be banned solely because that user was active on the sub.
- I do think it should be banned.
- I disagree that "a sub should be banned [presumably only] if the sub posts actively condone hate and violence."
- I don't think it's very difficult to argue that T_D posts do actively condone hate and violence.
- Not sure what your point is.
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u/voujon85 Nov 08 '17
Incels literally celebrated Elliot Rodger by constantly declaring him a god and plastering his photo everywhere. He murdered blonde women who wouldn’t sleep with him.
At first I tried reaching out many times to help, as I genuinely felt bad, and they always attacked. I’m a guy who loves dirty / edgy comedy, loved opie and Anthony, etc and I was shocked!
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u/xu85 Nov 08 '17
> He murdered blonde women who wouldn’t sleep with him.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings
He killed one blonde woman, one brunette woman, and four men. You must have misremembered, it’s common.
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u/jerkstorefranchisee Nov 08 '17
Mostly because he wasn’t good at anything, including targeted spree murders
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u/NomadFire Nov 08 '17 edited Nov 08 '17
The ironic thing is he killed 3 men and 2 women who were in a similar social class as him. They more than likely would have hung out with him and been his friends. He also wanted to kill his half brother and step mother for similar silly reasons.
His goal was to kill tall good looking people that were socially better off than him. He felt that taller white good looking people deserved to die because they had things he didn't. so he wanted to killed sorority girls from the most popular sorority near compas. Failed and killed two girls that were in the least popular.
He was also half asian and felt that being asian was part of the reason he was an outcast and went to communities that supported the idea that western societies looked down on male asian. 3 of the guys he kills are male asians he lived with. It wasn't fast he stabbed them to death. After he killed those people he made the video many of us have seen before going on the shooting spree.
He shoots a tallest white male while shooting blindly into a convenience store. This is the only person that he kills that fits his narrative.
It never made a lot of sense why anyone would find him heroic at all. Let alone r/incel he would have likely had killed them before killing one of their imagined enemies.
I don't know what to really take from this. But I been hearing that if he had friends or got laid things would be different. I really doubt that.
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u/voujon85 Nov 10 '17
He shot 3 sorority girls and wrote a novel about killing more. How could any sane person justify him
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u/WikiTextBot Nov 08 '17
2014 Isla Vista killings
On May 23, 2014, in Isla Vista, California, 22-year-old Elliot Rodger killed six people and injured fourteen others near the campus of University of California, Santa Barbara, before killing himself inside his vehicle.
The attack began when Rodger stabbed three men to death in his apartment. Afterwards, he drove to a sorority house and shot three female students of the Tri Delta serority outside, killing two. He drove to a nearby deli and shot to death a male student who was inside.
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u/RequiemEternal Nov 08 '17
Wasn’t there also a study showing that T_D had the largest overlap in users with incels?
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u/DishwashingWingnut Nov 08 '17
Yeah they're really bad, like actual Nazi bad.
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u/the_loneliest_noodle Nov 08 '17
I had such high hopes for that sub for like, a minute. I remember it popping up and thinking "Yeah, I see some weird censorship in the political subs, subbed.", and then saw the moderators and just going down the list and every single one being active or moderating in some neo-nazi white power bullshit subs and noped right the fuck out. I remember actually arguing with one of their mods who was saying they wouldn't let their political views get in the way, a few months later and they're posting anti immigrant propaganda from sources about as trustworthy as a magic 8 ball.
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u/TheRavenousRabbit Nov 08 '17
You know, guilt by association is one of the worst things you can use.
"Know that black guy? Yeah, the one that kidnapped that mentally retarded kid? Yeah, he was part of BLM. Burn it all down to the ground!"
That is ONE example I can pull.
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Nov 08 '17
Context is key here though. BLM is does not plan the kidnappings of mentally challenged kids. T_D planned a nazi march where one member killed someone. It's not just guilt by association, they clearly fostered an environment that encouraged that behavior.
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u/jerkstorefranchisee Nov 08 '17
And before anyone tries the “but they didn’t know it was nazis,” the post contained a whole section about how there will be nazis there. There’s a limp little “now I don’t condone nazis,” and then he goes on to explain how the preservation of the white race or whatever is job number one and it’s important not to punch right so really we should all go hang out with these nazis and worry about not liking them later
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u/TheRavenousRabbit Nov 08 '17
By this measure, Antifa and BLM are both responsible for the literal millions of deaths caused under the numerous communist regimes across the planet and history. Everyone from Stalin to Mao, who both hold the same ideological stance as these people - which by your standards, means that BLM and Antifa both nurture a culture and environment of genocide.
This is the problem with collectivist thinking, it isn't a person who is responsible. It is an ideology. A religion. A skin color...
The Donald did not plan to murder a person, just how these people did not plan to kidnap that kid. The BLM kids who kidnapped that child were influenced by the racist environment of the BLM and Antifa movements. It is literally on video of them talking how he is white, and that is the reason why they're torturing him. If BLM is not responsible for that, then TD is certainly not responsible for one lunatic.
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Nov 08 '17
I think that's a false equivalence. r/bestof literally has a thread right now where highly upvoted comments are advocating violent behavior. Nazis are not fringe on T_D. Some lunatics who happened to be bigoted against white people ARE fringe in BLM. The environment there specifically promotes violence, or at the very least, it's condoned. Surely you see the difference between a community that encourages violence and one that doesn't right? If BLM has a sub where highly ranked comments consistently claim things like "We should kill all white people," I'll be the first to condemn them for it.
For the record, it's weird that conservatives keep bringing up communism as if it has anything to do with the mainstream left. At the very "worst" we have people who want to implement socialist policies that have been very successful in France, Britain, Germany and others. It's disingenuous to conflate the two.
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Nov 08 '17
There’s still some glimmers of hope in uncensorednews but it’s fallen so deep compared to when it first came around. Seeing hateful, not fact checked, click bait articles being the top posts made me sad.
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u/dai-the-flu Nov 08 '17
Are there really? I clicked on the comments on the first post there and saw the n-word about 4 times as well as something about blaming Muslims.
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Nov 08 '17
Damn... I didn’t look at the comments. It used to be levelheaded people... :(
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u/dai-the-flu Nov 08 '17
Yeah, most of these subs are lost to the void now :( At least we still have r/aww.
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u/brehvgc Nov 07 '17
wow, genuinely surprised
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u/dividezero Nov 08 '17
when they announced the policy change, one of the top voted replies was basically "what about incels?". everyone is putting the hammer down when it comes to abuse and violence right now. We'll see more of this stuff here and elsewhere.
the thing that worries me... well two things. the first is when you destroy a roach nest and not the roaches, they just scatter; often creating more roach nests. The other is that if a heavy hand sweeps too far, the backlash usually makes things much worse.
This was probably the right thing to do, but now we have to watch out for them sneaking around in places we thought were safe from them. Concern trolls and other wolves in sheep's clothing usually increase in number and frequency when these things happen.
Anyway, not sure if i should be elated or terrified.
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u/ziltiod94 Nov 08 '17
Proably good. That sub was extremely toxic. Just hope these people don't end up going to the /r/TheRedPill as a back up
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u/MorningWoodyWilson Nov 08 '17
Don't they hate theredpill?
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u/dividezero Nov 08 '17
theredpill fucks... or thinks they fuck. that's not going to interact well with incels. i hope it happens though. that's some subreddit drama that deserves the fancy popcorn with truffle oil and shit.
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The Red Pill is 120 thousand fit college educated middle class men. If we really wanted to we could invade New Zealand and install a new government. We definitely have the manpower. There are plenty of veterans here. Plus everyone here knows where the magazine release is on an M16, from years of playing Call Of Duty.
Realistically the Red Pill Reaction Force would be far more effective than half the world's militaries. The Afghan military is fucked up on opium. The Iraqi army cant even do jumping jacks. . Plus New Zealand has only 8 thousand military personnel the majority of whom are useless paper pushers.
I don't actually support the violent overthrow of New Zealand. I just think its kind of a fun idea conceptualy.
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The Red Pill is 120 thousand fit college educated middle class men. If we really wanted to we could invade New Zealand and install a new government. We definitely have the manpower. There are plenty of veterans here. Plus everyone here knows where the magazine release is on an M16, from years of playing Call Of Duty.
Realistically the Red Pill Reaction Force would be far more effective than half the world's militaries. The Afghan military is fucked up on opium. The Iraqi army cant even do jumping jacks. . Plus New Zealand has only 8 thousand military personnel the majority of whom are useless paper pushers.
I don't actually support the violent overthrow of New Zealand. I just think its kind of a fun idea conceptualy.
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u/mkay0 Nov 08 '17
Fuck Million Dollar Extreme
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u/MorningWoodyWilson Nov 08 '17
Most cancerous thing on Reddit imo. Their sub is more Nazi-ish than anything else that hasn't been banned yet.
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u/ZAS100 Nov 09 '17
So they are actually alt right, correct? I couldn’t tell if they were being massively ironic.
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u/mkay0 Nov 09 '17
Honestly, not sure. I think they are, but try to keep a layer of humor as plausible deniability.
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Nov 16 '17
late as fuck but Sam hyde donated a bunch of money to the guy who founded the daily stormer after some shit went down (also Sam's show got canceled or something), they're pretty blatantly alt right imo
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Nov 25 '17
Even later! He said something about wanting reactions from libs... Yep definitely alt-right.
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u/freejosephk Nov 07 '17
poor guys. I don't think they're terrible people at heart. they just feel left out. they didn't respond to their situation properly but they're deserving of their own space and friends too. they need to stop with the hate/rape women thing though. it just must be really tough being over weight and picked on their entire lives.
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u/boxedfood Nov 08 '17 edited Nov 08 '17
Holy shit that’s good r/funnyandsad material
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
They talked a lot and they were hateful but these aren't the guys raping women or groping them in subways. These guys are just mad about being left out, and so they become "edgy". But 90% of these guys wouldn't have the heart to actually act out their hate. And if you gave them the opportunity to be nice and have a happy life, they would be totally okay.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
Sure. In the pantheon of attackers like the Texas guy or the one who killed his parents, they belong to the set of groups adjacent to incels but incels are upset at the women they are scared to approach and if one does act out on that hate, then he's one in 10,000 (or whatever the number may be - the one guy who comes to mind is the guy who catfished his tinder date; not exactly a predator), and if incels didn't exist he would belong to the atheist or the alex jones crowd and would have done it anyway. Blaming incels for being upset about their miserable lives is having no compassion for victims of this miserable world.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
So the atheist guy who gunned down twenty something parishioners gets a pass because his cause doesn't always promote violence. I know Sam Harris promotes violence against Muslims. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't he called for the bombing of Muslim states, etc? And it's not my point to point fingers but some of the atheist crowd are equally hateful and violent as are the T_D crowd and the alt right and there's a lot of cross over between all of them and that includes r/incels. Yes, the catfished girl had every right to be afraid but again, that's one guy out of many who belong to more than one group than just incels and out of all those groups, incels, T_D, the alt right, the Sam Harris, the Pony-bros (lol). All of those guys belong to the same groups, and my point is incels are not the worst.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
Yeah, I'm not arguing that the sub should stay or that their conversations are okay to have or think, or even that those kinds of groups don't lead to bad outcomes. I just don't think these guys who said those things are capable of carrying out violence against women. It was a lot of talk and it's good they're not doing that anymore but virgin neckbeards are not out there doing the things they darkly fantasized about, and I don't think they're capable of it either.
Furthermore, if given the opportunity to be nice, content individuals, 90% of them would jump on that without hesitation.
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Nov 08 '17
Did you not google elliot rodgers? He was that subs ultimate hero. You say they couldn't or wouldn't carry out the violence they preach, but you're wrong.
Those guys don't need your charitable assessment. They need therapy.
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I just don't think these guys who said those things are capable of carrying out violence against women
What on earth gives you this confidence? Guys over there encouraging others to kill themselves, to castrate their roommates, to rape their brother's underage girlfriend, and guys straight up saying they want to molest their cousin, or have already assaulted someone when they passed out, and you just... don't think they have it in them? Like, I'm sorry if it's totally un-empathetic of me to take a hate-filled stranger more at their word than blind faith in them, but lets just be realistic here. I'm willing to bet the kind of abuse they inflict on others isn't as flamboyant as a mass-murder of strangers. It's probably to people they know, and people who have at some point been vulnerable in their presence or care, and therefore are a lot less likely to come forward about it.
I find it completely bizarre that you can be exposed to their rhetoric and come away with 'they wouldn't ever actually hurt anyone'. I'm just earnestly curious where you're getting that impression from.
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u/scupdoodleydoo Nov 08 '17
I do not have to give an ounce of sympathy to people who want to rape and kill me. These people want me and other women dead. They can go choke.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
Obviously you shouldn't engage these people or feel you owe them anything but as a man, I'm aware of their frustrations. I have the capacity to empathize with them, and they need help, not from you but maybe from me if I can give it.
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17
You can empathise with them wanting to keep women as sex slaves?
Because that's the only place we differ. You don't have to be a man to empathise with frustrations over not getting what you want and feeling left out.
So the only thing you can empathise with specifically as a man must be that.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
I can empathize with people who for whatever reason have never been able to realize their imagined potential. You know, because my heart is not made of stone.
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17
So you agree, it has nothing to do with being a man.
And you are, for some other reason, choosing to throw your sympathies at people who advocate sexual slevery among many other horrors.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
You know, Bronies advocate for weeaboo sex with cartoon ponies. That doesn't mean they're capable of having pony sex or tentacle sex or robot sex or step sister sex or any of the other pervasive sexual deviance rampant in modern internet culture.
You're making the argument that these basement dwelling dorito eaters are harming women when in reality they don't even know any women they could harm. There are people who are committing crimes against women. These are generally not these people.
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Nov 08 '17
Literally google Elliot Rodgers.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
Literally that's one person. Point me to the other incel neckbeards gunning women down or raping them.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
I just don't think that 90% of that sub are serial killers. That's my point, and I think they can use some compassion and friendship. They need therapy, but they're not serial killers. If the FBI is monitoring them for the possibility of them being serial killers, then I'm sure they have the stats to determine those possibilities. I think those possibilities are low. If you think they're high, then I would argue, "where are these serial killers (plural)?"
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Nov 08 '17
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
I don't know, dude. All sorts of things were said by various people. I'm not going through that whole thread.
I said a. they didn't need those echo chambers. b. they weren't terrible people at heart.
I'm done with this conversation. You have opinions. That's fantastic. I hope you don't kill people or hate people yourself.
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u/DeepStuffRicky Nov 08 '17
And if you gave them the opportunity to be nice and have a happy life, they would be totally okay.
They HAVE opportunities to "be nice". People have to make their own opportunities to "have a happy life". Nobody owes it to them to simply place these things in their laps, least of all the people they refuse to recognize as fully human.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
They have fewer opportunities than other people. It's still true nobody owes them anything but going 0-100 or however you want to quantify their failure isn't fun or easy.
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17
Aren't they?
Citation needed.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
Are you implying rapes are perpetrated by incels?
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17
Are you implying they're not?
There have been people in there admitting to rape, so... Again, facts. Not your feelings. Facts.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
That doesn't even make sense. If they're having sex via rape, then they're not celibate....and I wouldn't know everything that went on in there because I was banned for having once had a girlfriend.
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u/abuttfarting Nov 08 '17
poor guys. I don't think they're terrible people at heart. they just feel left out
Maybe, but even if that charitable interpretation is true, that's exactly why their echo chamber needed to be banned.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
That's absolutely true. I don't know why I didn't qualify my comment to say as much.
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17
No. not terrible, they just think women should be sex slaves. Not terrible at all. Poor them.
Or, you know, fuck off.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
I mean, there's people out there committing actual crimes against women and against society. But if their words offend you, then you know, wow, that makes you an intelligent, thoughtful and caring person. I'm proud of you for that. It must take some real courage to be you.
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17
And some of those are incels. Elliot Rodger much?
There is a difference between offense and inciting actual violence, which they did over and over. Facts, dude, not your butthurt feels.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
Elliot Rodgers was from /b/, not /r/incels.
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17
He was incel.
One day incels will realise their true strength and numbers and will overthrow this oppressive feminist system. Start envisioning a world where WOMEN FEAR YOU.
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u/Lost_the_weight Nov 08 '17
LOL, so how does the latest Weinstein / Spacey allegations tie into this worldview...
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17
Wat? -_-
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u/Lost_the_weight Nov 08 '17
That women have all the power and control all the sex.
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17
To that I have no answer. Some things coming out of incels seems so far from reality that I can’t even guess at them.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
One of those are incels. Elliot. That's one person. Red pill guys probably commit a ton more crimes against women than incels. Chica, you're the one who's butthurt. I'm just saying these incel people aren't committing any crimes and the only times they offend people is online. You want to get worked up about it, that's on you, Chica. And great, their kind of ideas shouldn't exit. But ultimately, they're people in pain and they're not actually hurting people beyond offending you online. So yeah, I feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for people that hurt. Fucking sue me, I guess, lol.
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17 edited Nov 08 '17
Dude... Your guesswork is pointless. Clearly you're underinformed.
I'm just saying these incel people aren't committing any crimes and the only times they offend people is online.
Dude... Your guesswork is pointless. You do not fucking know. There is proof otherwise. Stop making idiotic claims.
But ultimately, they're people in pain and they're not actually hurting people beyond offending you online.
YOU. DON'T. KNOW. THAT.
Stop making dumbass assumptions.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
Show me your proof. And don't throw Elliot Rodgers at me. he's from /b/ and I think even predates the term incel. and regardless, where's your proof? where's your proof that incel types are perpetrating crimes against women?
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u/Svataben Nov 08 '17
Incels on the /r/ for incels have said so. IT IS FACT.
Your butt-hurt does not maske it less so.
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Nov 08 '17
I'm overweight and have been picked on my entire life... I don't hate women.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
I'm short and skinny and boy was I picked on and I don't hate anyone. But that doesn't mean there isn't a universe where I don't hate women. It could happen to anyone. It does happen to anyone. It's better to identify the reason why than it is to hate the people it happens to. Society has all sorts of effects on people and a lot of times people are victims of their circumstance. Sometimes its ideologies like incels that contribute heavily to the psychological diseases of people but these people can live better lives. There's no reason to suggest they can't.
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u/Jrottin2 Nov 10 '17
part of me wants them to unban it because ive never had the honour of witnessing their little world
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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '17
Where will I go to feel better about myself now?