So the atheist guy who gunned down twenty something parishioners gets a pass because his cause doesn't always promote violence. I know Sam Harris promotes violence against Muslims. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't he called for the bombing of Muslim states, etc? And it's not my point to point fingers but some of the atheist crowd are equally hateful and violent as are the T_D crowd and the alt right and there's a lot of cross over between all of them and that includes r/incels. Yes, the catfished girl had every right to be afraid but again, that's one guy out of many who belong to more than one group than just incels and out of all those groups, incels, T_D, the alt right, the Sam Harris, the Pony-bros (lol). All of those guys belong to the same groups, and my point is incels are not the worst.
Yeah, I'm not arguing that the sub should stay or that their conversations are okay to have or think, or even that those kinds of groups don't lead to bad outcomes. I just don't think these guys who said those things are capable of carrying out violence against women. It was a lot of talk and it's good they're not doing that anymore but virgin neckbeards are not out there doing the things they darkly fantasized about, and I don't think they're capable of it either.
Furthermore, if given the opportunity to be nice, content individuals, 90% of them would jump on that without hesitation.
I just don't think these guys who said those things are capable of carrying out violence against women
What on earth gives you this confidence? Guys over there encouraging others to kill themselves, to castrate their roommates, to rape their brother's underage girlfriend, and guys straight up saying they want to molest their cousin, or have already assaulted someone when they passed out, and you just... don't think they have it in them? Like, I'm sorry if it's totally un-empathetic of me to take a hate-filled stranger more at their word than blind faith in them, but lets just be realistic here. I'm willing to bet the kind of abuse they inflict on others isn't as flamboyant as a mass-murder of strangers. It's probably to people they know, and people who have at some point been vulnerable in their presence or care, and therefore are a lot less likely to come forward about it.
I find it completely bizarre that you can be exposed to their rhetoric and come away with 'they wouldn't ever actually hurt anyone'. I'm just earnestly curious where you're getting that impression from.
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u/freejosephk Nov 08 '17
So the atheist guy who gunned down twenty something parishioners gets a pass because his cause doesn't always promote violence. I know Sam Harris promotes violence against Muslims. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't he called for the bombing of Muslim states, etc? And it's not my point to point fingers but some of the atheist crowd are equally hateful and violent as are the T_D crowd and the alt right and there's a lot of cross over between all of them and that includes r/incels. Yes, the catfished girl had every right to be afraid but again, that's one guy out of many who belong to more than one group than just incels and out of all those groups, incels, T_D, the alt right, the Sam Harris, the Pony-bros (lol). All of those guys belong to the same groups, and my point is incels are not the worst.