r/crustpunk 21h ago

Could somebody recommend emo/crust, or crusty emo bands similar to Fall of Efrafa?

They're not quite skramz but they are emotional and crusty imo

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u/catladywitch 20h ago

Emocrust as a genre exists, and it has an ambiguous overlap with neocrust as they're basically nuances within the same genre. Some neocrust bands are skramzier, others less.

Anyway, crust bands from Galiza are arguably the inventors of the style: Ictus, Ekkaia, Madame Germen, Hongo, and currently Tenue are the most well-known.

Alex Bradshaw from Fall of Efrafa has many projects. Some of them lean more towards the "violin crust" side of things, but others like Arboricidio and Wreathe are awesome and very much in line with Fall of Efrafa.

Of course, before Fall of Efrafa there was His Hero Is Gone, well worth checking out, as well as their successors Tragedy.

Around the US/Mexico border there is currently a scene of neocrust bands with explicit ties to skramz. Lágrimas and Habak are the most famous, and I love them, but my favourite band from this scene is Amygdala.

Totem Skin's Weltschmerz is maybe my favourite neocrust album. They eventually became Dödsrit, which are OK, closer to black metal, but not as incredible as Totem Skin was.

Nux Vomica are also mind-blowing.

Brazil has a scene with very cool bands like Rastilho, Reiketsu, Mononoke.

Other bands I recommend: Catharsis, Finisterre, Gattaca, Drei Affen, Néboas

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u/These_Shallot_6906 20h ago

Shit, thank you for this comprehensive list! It must have taken you quite awhile to type this up for me! I'll add all of these to my list immediately.

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u/catladywitch 20h ago

no problem, it's just a genre i love!! 🫶

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u/2001jumpcut 8h ago edited 6h ago

Hey! Alex here - I wasn't in Arboricidio, although I did some guest vocals. That band was the brainchild of Jose, who writes all the music in Wreathe!

The biggest influence on our music was a band from Portland, Oregon called Remains of the day. I would say that band pretty much changed my life. The combination of ethereal violin, post punk guitars and thundering D-beat is sublime. Their second album, hanging on rebellion set me on a life long obsession! Emocrust was how the genre was described in the early 2000's - basically diy screamo influenced crust, I think the name speaks to those influences. It was actually Timo, who ran Alerta Antifascista records, that coined the term "neo crust" to describe the same music, he was also responsible for releasing many of the records that you could consider to be second wave emo crust, or neo-crust, and subsequent records from 'First wave' bands like Ekkaia, Madame Germen, who came out of the Galician hardcore scene, influenced by french screamo hardcore bands like Anomie and An Atta. That sound was combined with the anarcho perspectives of that scene, with this poetic, moody nature aesthetic. At around the same time, and coming out of the late 90's crust revival/ emo violence scene in America were bands like Union of uranus, His hero is gone, and eventually, Tragedy who all shared members. HHIG relocated to Portland from Tennessee, and shared practice spaces and housemates with members of From ashes rise and Remains of the day. They shared members too. Tragedy toured extensively across europe, and these sounds mixed to form more of cohesive genre - A good example is the second Ekkaia record, which was markedly different from their first, more screamo influenced record. Their sound became far more akin to Tragedy after they toured together - I have heard lovely stories of touring bands meeting each other and falling in love with each others music (madame germen watching Envy etc) FoE came along around the same time as bands like Schifosi, Ictus, ( ex members of Madame Germen) and then later bands like Alpinist. The genre largely went dormant as post black metal influenced bands became more common. Its had something of a revival over the last few years, which I am very happy about! So yeah, check out the greats, Madame Germen, Ekkaia, Remains of the day, but also the bands that came in their wake -

Landbridge, Gattaca, Icos, Aruspex, Autarch, Nervy, Hemiptera, Ashkara, From Ashes rise, Urine Mask, Geranium, Terra mater, Hmara, Habak, Lagrimas, Arboricidio, Ambulance, Hyena, Ura, Tenue, Leadershit, Das Plague, Down To Agony, Muga, Allee der Kosmonauten, Agonia, Herida, Sarabante, Manzanar, To what end?, Antimaster - the list goes on and on! If you like Efrafa, I am obsessed with this genre, and have been in three other emo crust bands - Wreathe, Morrow and Anopheli. Enjoy!

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u/thebittercupcake 6h ago

Not to fanboy or anything but huge fan, lol. Im actually working on a little project of sorts remixing/remastering the FOE releases (just for fun and to teach myself mixing and mastering) along with a few others.

And thanks for the awesome list of bands that influenced you, some of the staples of course are known, but a lot of those I have never heard of and excited to check it out.

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u/2001jumpcut 6h ago

cool! glad you enjoyed the band, hope they're of use in your mastering project. My friend Oskar remastered the Remains of the day records for AA records a few years ago. He managed to bring out some frequencies that got buried on the original mastering. There are so many bands, and with any genre, there are always interesting segues - no two bands are the same, I was always searching for a very specific kind of whimsical melancholy, something that Remains of the day captured in spades.

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u/thebittercupcake 59m ago

Badass, yeah I'm just learning at the moment, but found some really cool tricks that beef it up without really changing the tone. Using AI stem splitters to separate the instrument stems (these don't always come out perfect), and then hitting those stems with eq, effects, boosts, amp/cab sims etc, then mixing these back in under the original mix, beefs it up while keeping the feel and energy of the original music intact. Lot of it's coming together really well, and turned into a huge project of working on tons of bands from back home trying to give the old shitty garage recordings and such my friends and I did in our younger years a new life and make em sound like how we that they did back then lol. Cheers, brotha, appreciate your information and time responding!

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u/catladywitch 5h ago

Thank you so much for the wealth of information, for setting the record straight (I'm sorry for the inaccuracies) and for so many years of passion and lifechanging music!!

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u/2001jumpcut 4h ago

Oh no please don't apologise, we're all in each others bands, and its probably a little confusing! Glad you enjoyed our music!

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u/These_Shallot_6906 4h ago

Hey! I just bought a bunch of patches off of your Etsy store, and I just wanted to say thank you for all you've done! Watership Down left a really big mark on me when I was a child, so discoving your music as an adult was a really big treat for me. I think I'd like to have physical copies of the three FoE records eventually, but for now, is Bandcamp the place to buy the digital files?

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u/SteakShake69 2h ago

Hey Alex! Just wanna say your music is awesome and Owsla is the first album I recommend to anyone who's getting into emo/neocrust.

I love how you mentioned how all the touring bands fell in love with each other's music after hearing it. I always suspected it after listening to the Galician bands, the way they play truly gives the vibes of a bunch of friends in a scene who shot ideas off from each other.

Hope you're doing well and keep creating awesome music!

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u/aswedreamed 1h ago

Hey Alex, just wanted to let you know i absolutely love FoE and Morrow. Thanks for the awesome music. Cheers

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u/flying-broccoli 7h ago

That Wreathe record from a year or so ago is a real sleeper - love it.

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u/2001jumpcut 7h ago

Thank you! Hopefully recording a new one at the end of the year!

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u/vengeanceintobeing 18h ago

This list really hits the nail on the head. The newest Catharsis record is fantastic.

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u/drunken_plantpot 18h ago

Perfect comment. Yeah the new Catharsis slaps, gonna revisit Nux Vomica now

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u/Bananaramistan 17h ago

I would also add Remains of the Day to the conversation about Tragedy and HHIG.

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u/ocherthulu 15h ago

Good example of violin crust.

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u/mdicknolan 18h ago

Great post

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u/badmvra 16h ago

Mononoke mencionado 🇧🇷🇧🇷

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u/reverendloc 16h ago

Perfect answer. I love Totem Skin and Dödsrit and am embarrassed to say I didn’t realize there was a direct connection. Myteri from Sweden may also scratch the neocrust itch. Argentavis from California is a lesser known emocrust band (no longer active though)

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u/ZeroThePenguin 21h ago

Dead To A Dying World, Nux Vomica, Wake Up On Fire, Habak

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u/IDrankAllTheBooze 20h ago

Dead to a Dying World rules. Stoked to see them mentioned

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u/hertzvier 20h ago

Afaik Archivist are the spiritual successor of Fall of Efrafa, there’s also Downfall of Gaia and Harakiri for the Sky, and a lot of the other bands on the Alerta Antifacista record label roster!

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u/StenchOfTomorrow 20h ago

Cwill, ashkara

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u/pittura_infamante 20h ago

Alpinist, Jungbluth

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u/DecadentEx 19h ago

Autarch is the closest I've heard to FoE.

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u/PotRoast666 18h ago

Glad I'm not the only one who suggested Autarch.

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u/mc_foucault 21h ago

Battle of Wolf 359 Envy MASAKARI

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u/pittura_infamante 20h ago

Had forgotten Battle of Wolf 359 existed... thanks!

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u/rancidvat 21h ago

Vestiges

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u/CorazoncitoTirano 20h ago

Ekkaia, Lágrimas, Maladie.

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u/Terrible-Hotel-1525 18h ago

Perth express, shades of grey, alpinist, morrow

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u/drunken_plantpot 18h ago

Perth Express! That takes me back. I'd also mention Plague Mass.

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u/Bo-binater48 17h ago

Morrow for sure. Good Emo-Crust with cello/violin.

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u/fliwat 4h ago

yessss

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u/yhigred 20h ago

union of uranus

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u/craniumblast 19h ago

Tbh I don’t think they sound like fall of efrafa but I upvote anyway bc they’re gas

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u/Original_Program4473 19h ago

Locktender

Unique mix of skramz, hardcore, and neocrust. The same friend that introduced me to Fall of Efrafa introduced me to them.

Friedrich is my favorite album from them. But their newest album, Sage: I, I would say, is their closest in sound to Fall of Efrafa.

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u/blurrario 19h ago

Unhinged

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u/craniumblast 19h ago

My Phone watching me I was just talking about a band like fall of efrafa a few hours ago

Check out totem skin, much more blackened and aggressive but it’s got that emocrust thing going on too

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u/NeonCrucifix000 19h ago

Remains of the day….

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u/AsgardNirvanaHarvest 18h ago

Bomb threat

Tenue

Sacrosanta Decadenia Occidental

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u/Messe666 17h ago

Check out my old band Karoshi, we were in that realm and got to play with FoE https://karoshicrust.bandcamp.com/album/finale

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u/Sarcofaygo 16h ago

Against Empire is very melodic hardcore/crust check em out they rule. Thieves and Leeches and their Iskra split are what I own by them

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u/Salt_Attitudee 16h ago

Lagrimas rips hard

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u/Srirachadamage 15h ago

Light Bearer might be up your alley

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u/r3xvlt1g1rl 15h ago

Wreathe!!

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u/soberpunk 14h ago

Early Downfall of Gaia was very much influenced by Fall of Efrafa, newer stuff is more metal.

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u/hospice_dokuments 12h ago

This thread has made me feel incredibly old but I’m gonna throw Submission Hold and Tem Eyos Ki in the mix.

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u/hospice_dokuments 12h ago

And Spitboy?

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u/Easy-Brief6328 10h ago

REMAINS OF THE DAY “Hanging on Rebellion” LP is very good

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u/jugul4r_s0up29 8h ago

Wreathe best crust band

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u/destroy_the_machines 6h ago

Check out Tulpa from Italy.

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u/aniero 4h ago

Every suggestion in this thread is awesome, here's some lesser known bands that I absolutely love: Destierro, URA, Machine Gun Congress, Wretched of the Earth, Asfixia, Oroku, Blacken The Skies, Encierro, Knur, Des-Acato, SL'S3, Kakistocracy

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u/fliwat 4h ago

Morrow. Morrow is beautiful

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u/Clyde_van_Gel 4h ago

„… But the shadows have foes“ totally underrated band

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u/aswedreamed 1h ago

check out Fringerprint from France. They are awesome