r/dankmemes ☣️ Mar 01 '23

I am probably an intellectual or something With regulations I don’t see the issue

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u/Kai25552 The Great P.P. Group Mar 01 '23

Which is concerning for a whole different reason if you think about it…

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u/St0rytime Mar 01 '23

How so?

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u/Kai25552 The Great P.P. Group Mar 01 '23

If the increased availability of consensual sex decreases rape, this would indicate that there is a significant amount of rapists that didn’t commit rape because of ill fantasies/desires for non-consensual intercourse, but simply because they couldn’t get some.

Ergo: people we would consider healthy may be potential rapists.

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u/kharmatika Mar 01 '23 edited Mar 01 '23

Eh, anyone with basic critical thinking skills should have understood that crime motive is never as linear as we make it out to be. The narrative of “people don’t rape people for sex, they rape them to feel powerful!” is so clearly reductive and lacking in nuance that I have never once understood why it’s pushed.

SOME people rape to feel powerful. Some people rape to have sex they can’t get. Some people rape because they have no concept of the idea of consent and don’t think of their victims as people. Some people rape as a part of gang initiation ritual. And likely many many other reasons that I, a not rapist, can’t fathom. No other violent crime has a single linear motive, we’d never say “people don’t kill for money, they kill out of anger!” So why would this be the exception?

And this is an example of “the data is upsetting, but having the understanding can only be a good thing”. Sure, it’s scary to now find out that rapists aren’t always the person we think they are, and apparently that some people might just get so fucking horny that they go out and brutally traumatize someone. But apparently it was happening whether or not we knew it was happening, so the knowledge of it can only make things better. We had the cancer before the diagnosis. All the diagnosis does is give us a path to fight it.

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u/ambisinister_gecko Mar 01 '23

The narrative of “people don’t rape people for sex, they rape them to feel powerful!” is so clearly reductive and lacking in nuance that I have never once understood why it’s pushed.

SOME people rape to feel powerful. Some people rape to have sex they can’t get.

Definitely agree with all this. It's weird that this is a controversial opinion to some people.

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u/Kai25552 The Great P.P. Group Mar 01 '23

Im not sure how the last paragraph is relevant to my comment, but yeah, it’s fascinating.

What I wanted to point out wasn’t just that there is a new motive that I haven’t heard of. Just the significance of this motive is what seems surprising to me. If we can observe a significant change in sexual crimes across nations, then this means the effect of „the rapist was just horny“ must be concerningly big (is that even a word).