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OC Maymay ♨ But sure call them “woke”

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u/iamnotazombie44 Jun 01 '23

That it's illegal to be gay in certain countries? Yes.

The companies flew the flag anywhere it would fly.

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u/hehsbbslwh142538 Jun 01 '23

No it means they won't change the flag if they will lose money and investment from that country.

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u/archiecobham Jun 01 '23

Why would you expect them to do that?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '23

Yeah, why would you expect them to stand up for basic human rights at the expense of minor financial inconvenience to themselves? It’s ridiculous!

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u/Narwalacorn I am fucking hilarious Jun 01 '23

I mean companies exist to make money, so they’re not gonna do something that’s gonna lose them money.

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u/rascalrhett1 Jun 01 '23

The orphan crushing machine cannot be stopped under any circumstance

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '23

No, no, it could be stopped under many reasonably attainable circumstances. Unfortunately though, all of those cause the orphan crushing machine’s creator to lose money so CRUSH ON!

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u/janeohmy Jun 01 '23

Ah yes, the default response. It's always "but companies exist to make money" spiel, as if companies don't have Mission, Vision, Values statements when founding the company

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '23

Silly pleb, that’s the front. Come on to the back where we shit on all of those virtues we claim to hold.

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u/janeohmy Jun 01 '23

Oh shii, how could I forget

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u/Narwalacorn I am fucking hilarious Jun 01 '23

But it’s literally true? Why would you expect them to do something counterproductive to their entire reason for existing? It would of course be nice if they would stand up for human rights in a meaningful way but they’re not going to so long as it doesn’t make them money.

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u/ibigfire Jun 01 '23

No, that should not be accepted as the only reason for a company to exist. It quickly opens up the excuse for all kinds of evil acts to be done solely because "Oh well, it makes money so clearly it's what it should do!"

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u/Narwalacorn I am fucking hilarious Jun 01 '23

My entire point is that what they should do is not necessarily what they’re going to do. Tons of companies use what is pretty much slave labor because it’s legal in other countries. That is unquestionably a bad thing, yet it saves them money so of course that’s what they’re gonna do, because a company literally only exists to make money.

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u/ibigfire Jun 01 '23 edited Jun 01 '23

That's not the only reason a company exists though, if it's not an evil company, and if it's an evil company then it should not exist.

Giving them the out of "that's what companies are for" when they should be for producing products and services but not at the cost of significant human suffering, instead of just "infinite money no matter what suffering it creates" and shrugging like that's the sole reason for any company to do anything is just unnecessarily giving them excuses to be evil.

Not all companies are purely evil, though most of the non-evil ones aren't megacorporations, and even then there's various degrees of evil as well. Simplifying things to the degree you're doing is both dangerous and inaccurate.

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u/Narwalacorn I am fucking hilarious Jun 01 '23

I’m not simplifying anything. I am simply acknowledging the reality that companies exist to make money, and that many will do evil things to that end.

You keep saying that there are other reasons for companies to exist, so I suppose you can name some of these other reasons?

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u/ibigfire Jun 02 '23

Provide relevant services and/or goods to the best of their ability. Preferably while not doing unreasonable amounts of harm to others along the way. In return they should provide benefits to those that work at said company generally in the form of monetary gain, absolutely, but that's something that's done along the way and just one part of what makes a good company, almost a byproduct of effective operation though a very important one, but not its sole purpose.

But if the sole reason is to make money and ignoring everything else then it inevitably becomes a producer of harm to the world and those in it first and foremost, instead of a producer of goods or services.

The way we've accepted greed as an acceptable primary goal of companies has brought so much ruin to this world.

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u/Narwalacorn I am fucking hilarious Jun 02 '23

You do realize that if a business doesn’t make money then it’s not a business right?

I think what you’re describing is more like a charity, because you’re carefully avoiding any mention of the business accruing money in return for the goods or services they provide.

It is a fact that every business exists to make money, no matter how kind-hearted and righteous said business may be. It is an intrinsic quality of a business. With the exception of some small businesses, I am confident in saying that most if not all ‘good’ actions by a business are done to the end of making money. If a big business advertises that their products are made in America, chances are it’s because they believe that the potential boosted sales from that would outweigh the potential savings from making their products in Thailand where they can pay their workers 50 cents an hour, not out of the goodness of their hearts.

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u/archiecobham Jun 01 '23

Changing a twitter icon to a rainbow colour scheme isn't fighting.

They're a company, not a charity.

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u/Knighty93 Jun 01 '23

The companies, specially global ones, will be fine, but the marketing team and local employees of said company won't be as fine if there's a government or public backlash to a pride oriented campaign! Most of these companies have offices Worldwide and don't function as a single cell organism, a marketing campaign like this in certain countries could land some people in jail