Ngl, I was looking forward to the show since last summer when I first read about in on a random wikipedia page. Then I ignored it until now, I wanted to give it a shot, but seeing how it is now, I think I'll rather watch some porn, because it'll likely have more ofa plot and character consistency
Yea man you are not allowed to be upset about a franchise you have loved your whole life. You must love and consume any content they give you because you hate lgbt and women otherwise.
Its 82% on rotten tomatoes dude. /r/dankmemes is not a good place to get your reviews.
This is such a weird mindset to suggest there is an issue with 'character consistency' in a show you haven't even seen. There's only been three episodes so far and one is a flashback. Its literally impossible to tell if they are inconsistent at this point.
The "critics" gave it 82%. You know the guys that love anything dealing with female empowerment, LGBT, or minorities. The actual reviews by normal people have it as 16%.
The actual reviews by normal people have it as 16%.
You mean the reviews by people who felt strongly enough to go online and leave a review... Do you think Rotten Tomatoes just goes around doing random polls of a representative sample of the audience?
I'm not trusting the audience review on this. I have said this in a lot of posts: I understand not liking it, but I don't understand calling it garbage. Have people actually watched garbage or are they just hating on this, because it's Star Wars or because someone is accusing them of woke hate.
I personally like the show. Haven't seen anything truly bad by Star Wars standards(that means OG movies aswell). There are some kinda bad acting from the kids, but it's something I can forgive. I still enjoy the show.
Or another way to look at it, the people whos jobs it is to review stuff fairly average at 82% positive and the mob of haters who love to brigade voting for stuff they haven't seen averaged at 16%.
Critics gave Mulan (2020) 72%, The Last Jedi 91%, Captain Marvel 79%, and Ghostbusters (2016) an absolutely laughable 74%. Critics haven't cared about reviewing content for a decade or more. They only care about promoting whatever their current social cause is.
I've read some insane and out there things in my time but this one is up there.
Your thinking is seriously flawed when the reason the movie is terrible is the fact that it took itself out of star wars' context by ignoring its previous movies' development of characters and plot points for a convoluted and idiotic plot that destroys established rules of the universe to create new ones and then breaks those too.
It is from a narrative, character development, and pacing standpoint, an objectively bad movie. I say that as someone who didn't hate The Force Awakens.
The comprehension of star wars expressed in that movie's writing is on the level of a six year old's as are the ideas for its plot.
It couldn’t be that the subsection of the internet that inversely despises anything dealing with female empowerment, LGBT and minorities is review-bombing it and leaving biased reviews right? Only the other way around. Of course.
You thing every individual publication ranging from large newspapers to small solo operation websites are all aligned in some big scam? Even when they all have differing opinions?
You can literally look at what they wrote. That's the whole point, they can't just post a random star rating, they have to justify that opinion with text. That would be really hard and REALLY expensive to rig.
The other option is IMDB style, where you don't have to justify anything, and can vote as many times as you care to make accounts. That seems ridiculously easy to shill to me.
IMDB is literally as bad as it gets. It's a simple star rating that requires no investment at all.
Do you want your review from people who haven't seen the show yet? Because there are plenty of people on reddit complaining about "character consistency" that in the same sentence admit to literally not having seen the show.
Even if you think professional reviewers opinions are dumb, you at least can be sure they have actually watched the show.
Just open the actual ratings for The Acolyte and you can see how obviously review bombed it is.
I think you're wrong. If a show is truly good, it can stand on its own because the fans will drown out the negative voices. Generally, if something is above a 7 on IMDB, it's worth watching, and anything above 8 is a must watch.
By contrast, Rotten Tomatoes reviews are all over the place.
For this show, the writers decided to change "the force" to "the thread". This is Star Wars. They have plenty of source material and instead they choose to ignore it and make up their own shit.
Also, I'm not a right wing bigot, but there are plenty of ways to integrate the theme of 'strong female characters' without being super annoying about it.
Is it that weird for an entirely separate group of force users to view their relationship with the force differently to how Jedi do? to how sith do? the group in question are also heavily implied to be dark side btw and nothing suggests they are right and the jedi are wrong.
Sure, but in this case they shoehorned in a new group of Force users as a cheap way to inject their own unnecessary novelty (and political beliefs) into the franchise.
Star Wars has a rich history and expansive mythology that fans have come to love and respect. The fanbase has been very outspoken about Disney's poor adaptations since they bought the IP and Disney would have been well advised to respect the source material.
The guy pretty clearly states that IGN bows their head to Disney and doesn't give them bad scores. How does that prove his point if they gave Acolyte a bad score?
They start off by saying that even IGN thinks Acolyte is bad.
I toss back that people think IGN is wrong about good things being bad all the time and that they are inconsistent. ("Too much water" anyone?)
They reply that Disney always gets good scores from IGN.
I point out that they just said that they gave Acolyte a bad score, which is inconsistent with their previous statement that IGN only gives out good scores to Disney.
Where am I trolling? I'm trying to point out the flaw in their logic.
If they give Disney a bad score for something, then that means they don't always give Disney a good score for something out of principle.
Setting its story in a longer, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away allows The Acolyte to feel fresh and different from other recent live-action Star Wars series, with an intriguing storyline that seems to be setting the stage for the return of the Sith we know is coming. However, outside of its exciting Jedi fight scenes its execution sometimes feels off, with frequent cheesy moments and a lack of visual flair that contributes to the ongoing concern that all these Star Wars streaming series have diminished the epic nature of the franchise and what makes it special. Taken on its own terms, The Acolyte does offer some enjoyable character dynamics and an enticing mystery, but its first four episodes fail to coalesce into something that truly shines. But look, it does have a wookiee Jedi, and that’s always a plus.
6/10
The IGN Acolyte review..
Stop talking our your arse.
Hes definitely one of the people that hates it because of the wimmins.
Calling me a bigot bc I think a show is written poorly and it just so happens to have female leads is wild. I guess people can't be critical of a work of fiction if women are in it by your logic. I never mentioned women once btw.
If you like it, happy for you. But, idk if you know this, people can dislike something you like. And in this case, it seems overwhelming so
6/10 is certainly not a sign of a great show. And he is correct about Forbes, so where is he lying?
But beisdes that, I still dont see how are you so sure he doesnt like it because of bad writing, CGI, production, cinematography or acting, but because it has women in it? Can you elaborate on that a bit more?
I think honestly they need stay away from the epic center story of the universe. The mandalorian was a phenomenal series IMO. And I believe it's largely due to the fact that it didn't stand on the shoulders of previous cinematics, cept bolba season. Even then it was it's own story not an extension of the original movies
Rogue One fucks with established lore? I thought it was one of the first things in the Disney Canon (IIRC only the episodes and the Clone Wars show were kept for Disney canon) which doesn't leave much lore to fuck with
Honestly I don't care about the cast being almost exclusively women or almost exclusively POC, that doesn't mean the story is bad (I mean look at Black Panther...). But watching something that renames the Force and generally breaks the rules of the universe? Not my cuppa. You may like it, I'll rather watch something else
That is sort of an interesting concept, is it not? The idea that the Force is this physical power that manifests in nature that cannot be seen or explained (Outside of TPM)... it sorta is a cool idea that other cultures/faiths would develop their own belief system surrounding their cultural understanding of it. Not everybody in the world is a Jedi. Vader was mocked as a religious wacko for his faith in it in ANH.
ANyway I never seen the show so maybe it sucks how they did it.
That's been pretty well established with the Night Sisters, though. I think the issue is more about whoever this group are, they're just not interesting.
The media around the show is pretty cringe-worthy, and that's going to bleed into the show itself. The show is nothing special, but it is introducing some serious lore implications that can't really just be looked over. The tone is just not where it needs to be either for the subject matter they're potentially covering.
Either way, I thought we were in an era where we get darker Star Wars stuff, and Acolyte was teased to be that, but it's just more super safe Star Wars "THEY FLY NOW?!" drivel.
It's just not a compelling story being told. The Youtubers hating on it for "being woke" are completely missing the mark as far was what is actually legitimately wrong with the show. So once again, the narrative will deflect to that if people don't like the show. Which sucks 'cause I think Lee Jung-Jae is doing a great job.
I saw the first 2 episodes, it didn’t seem worse than any other modern Star Wars junk like kenobi or rogue one. I also haven’t even seen anything gay in it yet, lol. Like, idek where that complaint is coming from.
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u/He_of_turqoise_blood Jun 15 '24
Ngl, I was looking forward to the show since last summer when I first read about in on a random wikipedia page. Then I ignored it until now, I wanted to give it a shot, but seeing how it is now, I think I'll rather watch some porn, because it'll likely have more ofa plot and character consistency