Star Trek Discovery costs $8M per episode. Contrast to Enterprise $800K per. Now compare quality, art vs. art
I coudn't even make it past the first episode of Enterprise.
Though in fairness I haven't even turned on Discovery yet. But still, Enterprise isn't what I would use to compare art vs. art unless I was trying to be favorable to the other show.
Enterprise gets a lot more flak than it should, IMO. It's a little cheesy and quite slow towards the start. However as the story progresses they introduce some fantastic characters, and it develops into something a lot more 'real' feeling than the other series. If you can get past the godawful intro music, and push through the initial character-building episodes, it's absolutely worth watching.
Discovery, on the other hand, is a beautiful piece of visual art marred with absolutely abysmal writing. By the time I was finished with it I vowed never to watch it again, or any future seasons.
Strange New Worlds is the perfect mix of it all - couldn't recommend this one enough!
Just chiming in to absolutely agree with most of what you said. Discovery looks fab but suffers from forgettable characters, dismal characterisation outside of Michael Burnham who apparently saves the entire universe and all of existence multiple times. I watched three seasons and still didn’t know much about the bridge crew.
SNW is sublime. Peak Star Trek and capturing the magic of TOS and TNG.
Thanks, my wife and I are going to get through SNW once our streaming subscriptions cycle back around to include Paramount so it's good to hear that they put it together right!
Early Enterprise was really rough. I dont really fault anybody who dropped it based on the first seasons. But It followed the trend of 'growing a beard' that other series did, where after a bit the writers found what they really wanted to do with the show and it got a lot better. In the case of TNG and DS9, it roughly coincided with Riker and Sisko growing a beard.
Enterprise only Really started to find its stride the last season or so, unfortunately
Yeah I did hear good things about what Manny Coto did with it but by then it was rather too late.
Part of my issue was that it looked like the show was simply not intended for existing Star Trek fans but was instead a pivot away from it to some kind of new thing to hopefully bring in newer fans.
And while that's even a good thing, you don't want the show to stagnate, the direction they chose to move towards wasn't for me. I don't envy the challenge faced by the showrunners but damn they missed the mark starting off.
As the old saying goes, you don't have to drive in an AMC Gremlin to know it's a POS. Discovery is immaterial, my point is there's much better Star Trek to use as a point of reference to it.
I think it's a fair comparison because both series were equally bad for some of the same reasons.
Enterprise just didn't cost a small fortune to make, which makes it make more sense. Discovery makes no sense because they spent so much money doing exactly what Disney is doing with Star Wars: excluding their core audience.
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u/mpyne Jun 15 '24
I coudn't even make it past the first episode of Enterprise.
Though in fairness I haven't even turned on Discovery yet. But still, Enterprise isn't what I would use to compare art vs. art unless I was trying to be favorable to the other show.