r/dankmemes ☣️ Jun 15 '24

OC Maymay ♨ Whoever dumped Millions into this is the biggest clown in the world

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u/rashandal Jun 15 '24

i just cant understand how they repeatedly fuck up their star wars series so badly (except for andor and mando1). seriously how?

im not even expecting much. just make something that isnt dog shit for once. and if theyre not capable of that, they have mountains of books and video games and whatnot which they can use for stories and inspiration. it cant be THAT hard

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u/Lotions_and_Creams Jun 15 '24

It’s happening in a lot of previously niche hobbies/fandoms - Witcher, LoTR, etc. For a variety of reasons they are disregarding established lore, retconning, and shoehorning in plot points that don’t belong. Any big production now also has to appeal to a Chinese market which means making changes or excluding things their censorship won’t allow. In the end it all contributes to final products lone time fans don’t recognize/enjoy.

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u/DivineFlamingo Jun 15 '24

Cmiiw but I thought Hollywood stopped pandering to China since they basically got shut out of the Chinese market post Covid?

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u/Lotions_and_Creams Jun 15 '24

Hollywood is still trying, but in the last couple years Western movies haven’t done very well there. For example Barbie made $1.4B worldwide but only $35M from China. 

The biggest reasons according to Chinese movie critics is lack of novelty, preferring local/relatable stories, and Chinese domestic audiences don’t like the increasing insertion of ideology in Hollywood films. Which honestly, sounds a lot like what many people in the US are saying too.

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u/AStrangerWCandy Jun 16 '24

It’s because show runners and writers have a story in their heads they want to tell. But it sucks and no one will buy it. But they can use these popular IPs as a Trojan horse to make it anyway by disregarding the fact that they are serialized stories

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u/rashandal Jun 15 '24 edited Jun 15 '24

but they could as well just make it good at least decent.

as i said, they have plenty of source material to draw from.

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u/Yorspider Jun 15 '24

You know what new Audiences like? GOOD FUCKING SHOWS.

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u/Yorspider Jun 15 '24

Star Wars is NOT going strong lol. When was the last time Star Wars had a theatrical release? There is a reason for that. The franchise is on streaming life support, which is why they haven't given two shits about show quality.

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u/DivineFlamingo Jun 15 '24

I mean I have lost complete interest and flat out stopped watching Star Wars stuff post Book of Boba Fett.

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u/BiWinningDude Jun 15 '24

Andor is really good, I can’t remember if that was pre or post BoBF though…if you haven’t seen it, I genuinely recommend it.

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u/DivineFlamingo Jun 15 '24

I’ve heard it was great and watched the emotionally charged clip of Andy Serkis’ character but, not paying for Disney+ everything has been shit lately and I’d rather just pay for Max/Hulu which I use rather than adding DP to the list.

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u/DivineFlamingo Jun 15 '24

Yeah I scrubbed Disney plus off my Hulu plan and now just have Hulu with HBO Max.

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u/Mando_Mustache Jun 15 '24

Most stuff that gets made is mediocre to trash in any media/genre. The smaller the category the more noticeable it is. This is especially true if that fans of that niche care about everything that is part of it.

On top of that TV and movies are collective work of 100s of people, getting everything to come together is real hard. Even the writers have less control over the story than most people think. Easier for a novelist to be consistent. 

And then on top of THAT with this much money on the line there is endless meddling and pressure and competing priorities from different power players involved. What new audiences to find, how to please the old audience, what direction does the IP develop in, etc.

Honestly it’s kind of amazing any good Star Wars shows got made at all.