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OC Maymay ♨ Whoever dumped Millions into this is the biggest clown in the world

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u/ExcitingOnion504 Jun 15 '24

The immaculate force conception of the twins kinda retconns Anakin being the first.

Still feel like it would have been 1000 times better if they just adapted EU Old Republic content instead of making up a new era only 100 years before the prequels.

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u/wiz28ultra Jun 15 '24 edited Jun 16 '24

I’ll be honest, I don’t understand why people are so mad, even the Prequels had retcons to the lore by adding in the whole “chosen one” and “virgin birth” anyways.

Anakin’s already unique in that he literally destroyed the Jedi Order and was able to hunt down and defeat the remaining survivors, the emotional power of his redemption isn’t in him fulfilling some chosen one prophecy, it’s in him choosing the love for his son over his duty to an evil empire.

Consider to that Darth Plagueis isn’t canon anymore, we know that the twins in The Acolyte were birthed using a perversion of the force, but if anything, the way they talk about Anakin’s birth in the original is the Force willing itself to create Anakin

Before the prequels, Anakin wasn’t a looser who murdered children, but now he is

EDIT: Before anyone complains, that was a mistake on my part, what I was referring to is the Legends Novel that states that Anakin was the product of force experimentation gone wrong on the part of Plagueis and Palpatine, I do know that Plagueis was stated to have known of the force's ability to create life in Revenge of the Sith, however considering the framing of it in the film it's reasonable to assume that Palpatine was just using persuasive dialogue about his former master and there is nothing conclusive to suggest that Plagueis was even that successful, much less that he and Palpatine are the "fathers" of Anakin. In Canon, it seems to remain that Anakin is a product of the Force willing itself a Chosen One, whereas the Twins are just a perversion of force usage created by an extinct cult.

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u/ExcitingOnion504 Jun 16 '24

Consider to that Darth Plagueis isn’t canon anymore

He is referred to by name in episode 3 by his own former apprentice...

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?"

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u/HansChrst1 Jun 15 '24

We don't know how it is done. We don't know how Anakin came to be either. It is never said that Anakin was the first either. Shmi just says he has no dad.

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u/Capital-Cheek-1491 Jun 16 '24

We do though, the movies aren’t the only canon material

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u/Fzrit Jun 16 '24

The canon is so insanely expansive across all the books/comics/shows that at this point I genuinely wonder if it's possible to do anything that doesn't break canon. Even Lucas occasionally broke his own canon in his own material, e.g. bouncing between Jedi maintaining peace in the Old Republic for a "thousand generations" vs "thousand years".

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u/Striker3737 Jun 16 '24

All of the pre-Disney EU was declared not canon

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u/HansChrst1 Jun 16 '24

What book, comic, show or movie tells us how Anakin came to be?

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u/Capital-Cheek-1491 Jun 16 '24

Literally everything that says the prophecy. It specifies “born of the force”.

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u/HansChrst1 Jun 16 '24

I tried looking, but the only answers is in legends. In the current canon I think he just came to be. "he has no father" is all we get. That he is the chosen one is a clue that he might be born of the force. That some witches also made children using the force isn't that crazy. Seems like we don't know exactly how Anakin came to be and we don't know exactly how the twins came to be. My theory is that the witches made them with the force or that maybe they have two bio moms. Maybe they just inseminated some eggs and put it in another woman.

Born of the force can mean a lot of things since force can be so many things. Maybe Anakin was made by the cosmic entity that is the force and the twins was just made using the force. So Anakin was made by the force and the twins were made using the force.