r/dankmemes INFECTED May 24 '25

OC Maymay ♨ The west has fallen

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SNOOTS May 25 '25

Because they will not learn. You can't turn them back. The only thing they will understand is being overpowered so that they stay home.

They are already in echo chambers. Deciding not to fight them will simply let them believe they can get away with stuff in the real world. THAT will cause them to push boundaries and bring a gun next time.

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u/Vorrigen May 25 '25

It's true that they are already largely in echo chambers, but I believe that this would only make things worse.
The bigot in the video showed no interest in a physical fight (probably because he is a wimp and knows he'd get his ass beat), choosing to fight him anyway is exactly what pushes boundaries and might get him to arm himself next time he displays his bigotry in public (as it shows that violence is accepted and they just need to bring more of it to overpower you instead).

I think there are better ways of showing that they can't get away with bigotry, that aren't escalation to violence.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SNOOTS May 25 '25

For what it's worth, I appreciate your logic and I don't think you should be getting downvoted. I too wish that there was a nonviolent way.

But history shows fascists don't appreciate nonviolence. Remember that those are people that want the deaths of The Others; violence is already what they understand. Trying to peacefully suppress them has never worked historically. It's how Hitler was allowed to rise to power, it's what allowed Mussolini to gather strength to take over Rome.

The only way to stomp them out is literally that. To show them that they will lose their own game. The die hards will always be around, yes, but showing that it's a literal losing fight will keep them from gathering followers of "maybe he's got the right idea" types, as those will think it's not worth it.

I agree that it's not perfect. But unfortunately the fascists started this fight, and those who fight back are defending themselves, pre emptively.