I'm old enough to know there's no such thing as the world being fair. But damn shit like this is so disheartening. I'm busting my ass not making ends meet and there's Cunts out there making bank doing shit like this.
Idk i just seen a video of a bop house which is a house of only fans girls. Im like damn this planet screwed lol some of them joined the crisp age of 18.
Bruh that place has girls joining before 18 and building a following to start OF at 18. It’s straight up a grooming house. OF girls have incentives to attract more girls to OF as you get a 5% cut of earnings if someone signs up using your referral code. That’s how some girls get stupid rich and that’s what the head of the Bop House does to make bank
I’ll be honest I struggle to blame them. I make good money but I work like a dog for it. If I could make the same money from the moment I turned 18 for posting a few videos a week on only fans then I might go for it and I suspect that’s true of at least some of the people who complain about it too.
I've busted my ass in a shitty factory for the past 5 years for fucking peanuts.
Getting paid damn good money to fuck, something I'm already doing for free for fun.. sign me up. Yeah, it's a lot of work marketing yourself, answering gross ass DMs, and all that bullshit, but hell. Sounds a lot better than breaking my knees and back for a job I'll probably get laid off from in 5 more yrs and have no benefits to cover the surgeries I'll need later.
Only sucks for those ladies that do it, and make no money out of it. Then you put that shit out there for no reason
That's the thing, though. Most aren't making that much money. I couldn't find the median, but it's looking like ~$150 average, which I'm sure for many justifies the loss of dignity. However, dignity doesn't pay the bills or feed mouths 😔. Just more of the same story of trying to escape the rest race.
the #1 earner on OF, Bhad Bhabie (cash me ousside girl), doesn't even do nudes/sex videos. just slightly racy shit. think Maxim or FHM if you're old enough.
Most OF girls make jack shit, like 99.9% make below a living wage. The markets too oversaturated and they keep having to find new ways to stand out and make cash. Appeal to new demographics or niches, and then those quickly become saturated too.
I think you meant bobbing like bobbing for apples . I’ve heard it used like that too. A girl is bobbing for 🍆 ,but not as much as the other one . Slang is also made up and typically highly regional
If you notice those definitions have a lot of dislikes . Again bopping as slang comes from bobbing your head either like a bobble head or bobbing for apples .
I saw this dystopia portrayed in futurama and idk what they would’ve done anyways when the alien invasion came, it’s not going to be Independence Day, if they come to us they have superior technology.
The male loneliness epidemic has nothing to do with this, and everything to do with male friendships (i.e two guys) not being as close as female friendships (i.e two girls). Guys rely on romantic relationships to have all their needs met when friendship alone can meet a lot of them. So when they don't have a romantic relationship, none of their needs are met, which is detrimental for their mental health.
And before the clown car shows up with people crawling out of it to claim otherwise, I'm speaking in general terms and am not saying all men or all women. Your personal experience claiming otherwise is just that, and not indicative of the collective experience that defines the "male loneliness epidemic".
I was just shooting the shit before, but if you're actually looking for open discussion not an argument, I'll post some thoughts. For one I think the male loneliness epidemic can't just be due to their friendships. This is how male friendships have been for a long time, you might not know what your bud's favorite color is or how their marriage is going, but you would take a bullet for them. By your logic, loneliness should have peaked in the 50s/60s when male machismo was at its peak and their emotion but a myth. Instead, what we're seeing now comes from other key factors, social media and the rising cost of living. Daily feeds have taught us that everyone else's life is better than ours and dating apps have taught us that there's always a better match on the horizon. We are taught to never be satisfied, because that drives engagement. And when say "we", it's really because I believe that what we're experiencing is not a male loneliness epidemic, but a wholesale loneliness epidemic, with social media often driving a wedge between genders. This is where I do think your point has merit, in that which less happy partnerships mean males are getting lonelier, but I argue that so are women, they are just handling it better. So really, we are still not solving the core issue that men and women will probably be lonelier as a whole without partnering because it's ultimately something men-men or women-women cannot satisfy (unless you are LGBTQ of course, I am heavily generalizing to be brief). Also note that this does not mean I think women should be lowering their standards or something and we should be going back to the 50s where an unmarried women was just worse off in life. Women having more options in life is obviously good, but which everyone more focused on careers, this does lead to the next issue. Even with everyone working, cost of living is higher than ever relative to wages and time is the most precious commodity. Less money means less quality time with loved ones and prospective partners which means everyone will look to easier and quicker ways to fill loneliness. A great case study is Japan, where host clubs and escort services are rampant for all genders. It's worth noting that their case is probably accelerated due to the way Japanese culture is and the way they form relationships of all kinds, but it's still not hard to see that we are definitely heading in that direction. Our happiness is being sapped away to meet some corpo's bottom line and it's probably only going to get worse as we continually lose any sense of reality on the internet with the advent of AI too.
I'm saying the reason it's male loneliness epidemic and not just a loneliness epidemic is because of the type of friendship. Regarding the 50s/60s people put a mask on. Boomer humor is about hating their wives, but they had one because women didn't have many alternatives. Social media and the modern age lets people be a bit more open without it being a social faux pas, as it was before.
And yes, they do get to learn and see what they missing out on, and form parasocial relationships out of desperation, whether it be watching and donating to streamers or paying to "talk" to Onlyfans women who hire randos to pretend to be them.
Do you think its a coincidence that the market of selling comfort, companionship and parasocial relationships is almost fully driven by demand from men?
The issues you're talking about isn't the same as the male loneliness epidemic. In a nutshell, this one stems from male relationships being unfullfilling/less fulfilling, and failure to find a romantic relationship resulting in unmet needs and loneliness. The failure itself is related to the things you're talking about, but is overall a tangent. Addressing that is just a bandaid to this particular "phenomenon", if you will, because it will only help the people who have healthy friendships, who legit have zero overlap with male loneliness epidemic.
What it really comes down to is that there currently aren’t sellers markets for women loneliness in the west but in the east the markets are massive and have become socially normalized. We aren’t there yet, but we are rapidly approaching it, you can already see how big say gacha gaming is swinging in terms of women player bases. Also, it’s a well known phenomenon that males will flock around the prettiest girls and buy her bathwater. No matter what, this will cause ripple effects among women, especially amongst below average looking women as potential prospects will be stolen into a life of perpetual simpdom. All of this will continue to come to a head as male behavior becomes more awful and sexist. The reactionary misandry movement can already be seen in places like Korea where many females have been radicalized too, see the 4B movement. What I’m trying to get at is even if it looks like a male loneliness epidemic now, it absolutely will be a societal issue for everyone in the future.
Both issues exist, I'm saying the male loneliness epidemic also exists. Both need to be solved, but just addressing people dating doesn't solve the male loneliness epidemic, it only acts as a bandage because people will still continue to rely on romantic partners for needs that friends can meet if they're close, and open with each other. For example, men need a shoulder to cry on at times. A friend can offer that shoulder, but friendships between men aren't often that close or that type. So they think they need to date and a partner will be that shoulder to cry on. It also results in women kinda drawing back from men that overshare/dump all their bottled up feelings because people have limited empathy. Women drawing back from this is seen as an expectation that they want men to be stoic, which furthers more issues.
I think what we're really approaching is the very common sense answer that men and women should have healthy platonic and romantic relationships, which I will heartily agree with.
Yeah, this streaming era especially showed me that there are ways to get rich quick in degen ways. These kids and adults watching are just throwing money at these people even when they already have a lot and are asking for donations for a new expensive thing to buy. In the last few years gambling has been getting pushed pretty hard by a lot of people & celebs.
Mad at the women doing what they have to in order to survive in a capitalist system in which a small few hoard most of the wealth and resources instead of the insanely wealthy people that are rich enough to waste money on nonsense
Neither Sweeney nor Amouranth have to do this in order to survive. It doesn't follow from the economic system being unethical that every action done within it is equal.
Idk if this is whiteknighting or millionaire bootlicking. It's the internet mate, nothing we say here is productive, neither is selling bathwater. Is it her fault people are dumb enough to buy it? No. Is it still rage inducing that people work hard to just about get by while she'll make bank with this thing with the only effort being having bathed? Fuck yes. I don't doubt she's working when acting, but this is sad.
I think the line between just offering a product people want and taking advantage of desperate and lonely people is a very very blurry one. Personally I can't fault anyone for landing on the "she's a cunt" side of it.
That is besides the possibility that it was more of an expletive than an actual personal insult.
In terms of taking advantage of desperate people, online guys selling alpha or get rich courses are a whole lot worse.
At least with the bath water sellers they don't directly scam you into thinking that you'll get a relationship with them. Although I don't know what's going on in those onlyfans dm's
And I'd call those people cunts. We're gonna run out of neither people to call cunts nor the energy to call them that.
While those OF dm's can definitely get just as bad as the online course people and both are perhaps worse than this would be, personally I'm of the opinion that any intentional exploiting of peoples desperation and loneliness makes you a right old cunt.
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u/ImEatonNass May 29 '25
I'm old enough to know there's no such thing as the world being fair. But damn shit like this is so disheartening. I'm busting my ass not making ends meet and there's Cunts out there making bank doing shit like this.