Have Americans looked at the US recently when they make these jokes? The president over there literally wants to strip a mayoral candidate of his citizenship and deport him because he's gotten too popular
He was denied entry for admitted drug use and a picture of a pipe on his phone, which was legally searched with his permission. The Vance meme is a red herring.
Elon immigrated illegally, he violated his student Visa by starting a business. If we're being serious here he should be deported.
Yes, it's pretty silly to be denied entry for a picture of paraphernalia but it is federally illegal, and at the end of the day a country can decide who to let in.
Wait, a simple picture of a pipe is illegal to have? I don't believe that, that's actually insane. So for example, one could land in an airport, legally google a picture of a pipe, legally screenshot it so it's saved onto their phone, and now it's federally illegal?
Possession of paraphernalia is a crime. Having a picture of paraphernalia on your phone surely isn't a crime, is it?
A picture of a pipe is not illegal lol. Hell, a pipe isn't even illegal unless you can prove you're using it for illegal drugs. There's headshops in every single state in probably almost every city that sell pipes because they're not inherently illegal.
That is what CBP claims and there is no way to be proven true. The documentation he was given about the refusal does not mention anything about drug use.
Refusing entry for drug use to people from countries where weed is fully legal and also legal in most of the US with several high profile people that smoke publicly being allowed entry with no issue is clearly something that is obviously only used as an official reason when the actual reason is likely as stupid and anti-constitutional as that Vance meme, although CBP can refuse entry for any reason so technically they did nothing wrong, and the constitution does not protect people that are not in the US yet (although based on the current administration it doesn't protect people who are in the US either).
TL;DR: the drug use denial is most likely fake, and there is no way to prove it's true. Circumstantial evidence from usual CBP procedures points to it being fake.
Americans are hypocritical, yes. But marijuana is federally illegal, and he admitted to past use to agents.
There is also zero evidence to support his denial was because of the meme, unlike the pipe picture, that meme did not violate or represent a violation of any federal law.
Tbh that's still kinda dumb. A picture of a pipe means absolutely nothing and is completely contrived. It could be a screenshot from literally anywhere on the internet. A picture that someone sent to him. Something that he just found and took a picture of. Absolutely no way to prove that it was his, let alone at airport immigration lol. And admitted to drug use in the past? That's like saying "yeah I smoked some weed a few months ago" and being denied entry because of that. Because in 2025, half the western world smokes, and half of that is legal smoking.
He admitted to drug use, and did not deny it as being his. Yes, it's hypocritical, but a country can decide who to let in and who to not. He displayed a violation of federal law and was denied entry. Definitely dumb and hypocritical, but did you really expect anything less? We have stupid laws exactly for these "gotcha" moments.
I'm not denying that what border control did was legal. But is it actually illegal to have a picture of paraphernalia on your phone? I find that hard to believe. I know that possession of paraphernalia is illegal. But a picture of it? So I could take two seconds to google "crack pipe," screenshot, and boom I just committed a crime?
I think he’s referring to the fact that there is often context excluded from that conversation.
“And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.”
Fair enough. I can definitely see that. I think what he’s was saying was more of a dig at the current state of mainstream media than an endorsement of white nationalism and the media presenting it as the latter is a bit of a validation of the former.
To be clear, I am NOT a fan of Trump, I just think a lot of discussions (when they involve him) tend to lack a lot of nuance.
I think it should be federally legal, but it's currently not. I wouldn't say I'm in favor of it, but I also believe our country can choose to deny entry to people who have historically broken our laws. This is a dumb example, but that's what's going on.
So just to be clear because maybe I wasn’t 100% on how the law works on this: I live in a non-legal state but when I travel to New Mexico to visit family and maybe smoke a joint I’m violating federal law? Because it is legal there. That can’t possibly be true, it leaves a giant loophole to declare any legal pot smoker a potential federal criminal.
Mostly just pointing out the insane absurdity of our times right now.
Airport customs is a federal agency and follows federal laws. State laws usually take precedence, but apply only to states, which means that you can smoke a joint in New Mexico, but you can't take it back home with you, and you can't be under influence when you leave New Mexico. Also, airport is international territory and the border you cross in the airport when you go through customs belongs to the country, not the local administration.
That’s consistent with what I’ve understood. So, judging from the article linked above, even as a US citizen I could be detained at customs entering the country if they suspect I’ve ever consumed marijuana (and they wanted to be dicks about it). That’s where I’m a bit taken aback.
If they knew what's going on in their country, Trump wouldn't have been voted in. If they even cared what's happening legislatively rn, they'd all be out protesting. Instead of complaining about the protestors.
That being said, the trend of ignorance is all over the world. So it's hard to judge them in particular.
Ha! Are you joking? Everyone here is fully aware of what's going on but the Republicans don't care or find it justified. Meanwhile the Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot at every chance they get.
All I can say is that I disagree. I believe there's a major cult of ignorance all over the world. And I think many republicans don't even know what they're cheering on, because they don't bother to read about it
All I'm saying is that Trump told EVERYONE exactly what he was going to do before he was elected, and he's doing exactly that. They're not hiding it, I know several Republicans who are fully aware and somehow are able to look past the 100s of years of history and make it okay. I don't understand it either, but people are just that plain stupid.
More importantly, they don’t care, and that’s why they don’t look into it. Trump has convinced enough people that all his enemies are participating in a massive conspiracy, so it justifies doing one of their own. If you want to try to steal a fairly won election, you might as well accuse your opponents of doing so. To the MAGA supporters, every accusation from the left looks like projection now, because the left has been baselessly and relentlessly accused of everything conspiracy under the sun.
Much as I would love to have more options, it would require an overhaul of our voting system, and at least one of our parties isn't going to let that happen without a fight.
Over here, Trudeau ran on implementing voter reform, and he had the votes to do so. But the Liberals wanted something that would favour larger parties (obvi), and the Greens and the NDP wanted something that would favour smaller parties (obvi). Nobody could agree so nothing got done.
Even when the Left has a mandate from the people to do a reform, they can’t get their shit together. (Pretty much entirely the Libs fault, in this case. They got greedy.) Then the next election happened and suddenly the Libs were a minority government and nothing could get done. They missed the window.
In Canada we had four, split from far left to far right. The two Conservative ones merged and elected Stephen Harper. Every election since has been a desperate fight to keep them out of power, as the left parties split the vote and the right party moved farther right. Today the NDP, our socialist party, is dead in the water and has lost official party status, and the Liberals (and the country) are run by what’s basically a conservative but looks like a centrist compared to the other side.
There’s something about modern times that’s pushing everything farther right. Idk if it’s the relentless propaganda funded by Thiel and his ilk, the ease of distribution of that propaganda thanks to the algorithm, the corporate lobbyists picking their candidates to fund, or just that people are getting more desperate as the wealth gap and cost of living rises… but it’s a bad trend.
I don’t agree with stripping him of citizenship although I do believe he should remove him from his position if a mayor or any government official actively ignores the law they shouldn’t be in that position
Congress is full of spineless old people, and the Supreme Court is in his pocket.
Hate to say it, but the US and it's democracy is quite officially fucked. He rigged the election alongside Musk and no one challenged it. Dems just sat down and took it in the ass. Now, here we are.
That’s not what I mean. I’m saying that a large amount of people in your country sincerely wanted it. So yeah, technically democracy is working. It’s just that it’s outputting less than stellar results
That's completely wrong. The Mayoral candidate said he is going to obstruct law enforcement, which is legally a seditious conspiracy and grounds for legal action. Beyond that, he may have lied on his citizenship application where the question would basically have been "do you support known terrorist groups", he answered no(as evidence by his current citizenship), but has given support to Hamas, making that statement a lie and grounds for revoking his citizenship under the Immigration and Nationality Act.
Trump isn't making anything up, this is all codified law. He would just be enforcing the current law as agreed upon by Congress.
Forgive the simple boy, he’s too excited about all the marginalized groups that are going to be bled so billionaires can stay rich. Class traitor and pro fascist troll.
If you don’t see the harm in the president saying he’ll deport a mayor and strip them of citizenship because he doesn’t like him then idk what to tell you lol. Try not burying your head in the sand so much.
Be careful with your comments, or you'll go to jail. And don't forget to take your daughter to a psychologist after she's been sexually harassed by teachers.
I mean, he's not arrested right now. I saw the video where the reporter asked Trump about the NYC mayor candidate saying he was going to defy federal law. And then Trump says "Well, we might have to arrest him." I don't see what the issue is, Trump didn't issue an arrest warrant on the spot, he's saying if the guy breaks the law then they'll do something.
? Within the same interview he says "a lot of people are saying he's here illegally. Anyway, we will look into everything" while talking about an immigrant who's running against him and talking about how he's a communist, and arresting him. Idk man, trump does this shit all the time. Implied threats. That's how he threatened Spain by saying "things are gonna get worse economically for them" after expressing his disappointment in the fact that Spain didn't sign the paper he wanted them to.
Possession with intent to distribute means you're already in possession of an illegal substance and that the substance was found with other things necessary for distributing (bags, scales, lots of pre-weighed individual packages, etc. You're literally already breaking the law not just saying you'll do it in the future if necessary.
I’ve seen people get charged for having a large (less than an ounce) volume of an illicit substance
I also have known people to buy a bunch (an ounce or more) of weed for personal use. That person would be arrested for what they might do with a large volume of weed, regardless of baggies
I will say having baggies and a scale will get you pinned with a smaller amount and is a clearer case but to say beyond a shadow of a doubt is a fairy tale
So are you implying the UK successfully stripped someone of their citizenship and deported them whereas the US only wants to do it but won't be able to because they are a "Democratic Republic"? Let's completely ignore that US has already deported US citizens I guess.
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u/DunnoMouse Jul 04 '25
Have Americans looked at the US recently when they make these jokes? The president over there literally wants to strip a mayoral candidate of his citizenship and deport him because he's gotten too popular