Bigger audience, more money

[u/Brilliant_Garlic69]

[u/InfinityBowman]

or societal and cultural reasons, not personal choices, there is no big bad boss but there is a culture around men and women and the workplace that creates this

[u/floggedlog → u/InfinityBowman]

There’s also an entire class of jobs that women just won’t touch that contributes to it as well all the dirty hard jobs

But at the end of the day, there are laws that prevent discrimination, and anyone who can perform the work can get the pay.

[u/InfinityBowman → u/floggedlog]

yeah but u can also sort by occupation and u get the same results of 15% gap

[u/InfinityBowman → u/floggedlog]

so ur just ignoring the cultural gaps that exist, obviously there is no huge thing that means employers can just pay less but overall due to cultural and societal factors women end up on average making 15% less than male counterparts

[u/floggedlog → u/InfinityBowman]

No, I’m not you’re ignoring what I’m saying and pretending it is cultural factors it’s not

it’s personal decisions men go for more dangerous jobs that have a naturally higher pay women do not

men go for longer hours and overtime. Women do not

men do not take paternity leave women do.

Those are the factors and none of them are the boss deciding to pay a woman less because there are laws against that and when you actually go and compare a man and a woman doing the same job as each other, they make the same pay EXCEPT For entertainment the pay in entertainment is always based on what kind of crowd you bring

[u/InfinityBowman → u/floggedlog]

and why do they do that? cultural norms, also did u ignore what i said about the job type/position not being a factor in the pay gap?

[u/floggedlog → u/InfinityBowman]

Look i don’t think we’re getting anywhere so I’m just going to show you an example and you can argue with that if you want to try, but I think it’s gonna be a lot harder for you to argue with Heres a side by side of the same job first The women.

https://www.tiktok.com/@emmadupuis0718/video/7118913484963761414

That’s a lot of chatting I see what five six? people are sitting down not really a lot getting done so now let’s look at the boys

https://www.tiktok.com/@chris_the_roofer/video/7533687636771360031

Hmm two men. Silently getting a shit ton done

Now consider that a job like this you get paid by the job we are working for a homeowner who is going to give you a chunk of money at the end or make payments to you for the next several years whatever the point is lump sum at the end to be divvied up probably $30-50k before tax/materials/overhead

so these two men are splitting the entire paycheck between them over a shorter period. Versus five or six women splitting that same check and because it took them longer to do it they’re going to have more costs on their end more rent more food more everything.

And that’s the pay gap it doesn’t exist beyond personal choices and therefore it’s not something that needs to be in any kind of law. We already have anti-discrimination in the labor force laws that’s all that we need you want the same money? do the same work. It’s called meritocracy and it’s wonderful.

[u/InfinityBowman → u/floggedlog]

buddy, just look at the real statistics, u know where to find them, i dont need ur one off anecdote, its worthless