r/dankmemes ☣️ 2d ago

How the US System really works

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u/Fitzaroo 2d ago

I dunno man, one group tried to cancel student debt and provide healthcare while the other stopped it. Sounds like they aren't quite the same.

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u/Oppopity 2d ago

I dunno man, one group funded a genocide and the other also funded a genocide.

"Sounds like they aren't quite the same." Is a strawman. Pointing out that both parties serve corporate interests first and foremost isn't saying they're both the same. One is clearly worse than the other. But if corporate interests conflict with voter interests they will always sell out voters. That's how you end up with your vote not being able to do anything to stop genocide. Liberal democracy only allows change if it doesn't go against what the elites want.

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u/Fitzaroo 2d ago

But that isn't true. They tried to get healthcare passed which would (and probably did) deal a big blow to healthcare. Student loan forgiveness also got stopped because a corporate interest sued since it would hurt them.

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u/Oppopity 2d ago

Soooo. It is true.

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u/Fitzaroo 2d ago

It's true that they actively tried to hurt corporations at least twice.

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u/Oppopity 2d ago

Key word tried to.

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u/themule1216 1d ago

Nah man

I mean like yeah, they both suck

But one side kinda sucks and the other one is willing to tear up the constitution and wreck the economy. Constant evil and stupid shit

It’s best to make sure that republicans can’t just slink away when all this is done. They tried to damn the country. They fucking suck

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u/Oppopity 1d ago

If you're going to say people that do genocide only "kinda suck" then I'm going to call you a Nazi prick.

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u/themule1216 1d ago

They suck hard and need to get ripped out of power, totally fair

But I also doubt the situation wouldn’t gotten where it is now without Trump in power

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u/Oppopity 1d ago

Right. Which is why it sucks so much democrats care more about murdering brown people than stopping a Trump presidency. Democrats always have shit candidates because they, just like republicans, focus more on corporations and lobbyists than voters.

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u/EstablishmentDear469 2d ago

Who the hell ever tried to seriously provide healthcare to the American people.

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u/shutupyourenotmydad 2d ago

Bernie Sanders, I guess?

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u/EstablishmentDear469 2d ago

And which party stole his nomination twice?

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u/Drumbelgalf 2d ago

Probably because they knew he would never win the votes of the swing voters.

He certainly had the best ideas but Americans are to stupid to realize they would benefit from them.

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u/EstablishmentDear469 2d ago

Based on the polling he would have beaten trump in 2016. It’s the neoliberal corporates who would rather have trump win than to actually see change.

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u/shutupyourenotmydad 1d ago

You act as if I don't already know the answer.

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u/why_did_I_comment 2d ago

"I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that's what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That's what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we've got to take back the White House, we've got to take back the Senate, and we've got to take back the House."

Barack Obama ~2003

Single payer healthcare was a big reason many people voted for him. Unfortunately we never got there.

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u/EstablishmentDear469 2d ago

And then he got into office and passed Romney care and gave a huge gift to health insurance companies.

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u/CrazyBigHog 2d ago

Don’t forget 700 billion he handed over to the banks after they collapsed under their own mismanagement. Probably helped that Citicorp hand picked his cabinet.

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u/EstablishmentDear469 2d ago

It’s absolutely disgusting. First Bank president.

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u/founderofshoneys 2d ago

The other party stopped healthcare? You mean the public option amendment for Obamacare when dems had the WH, senate, and house? If so that's definitely not what happened. See also Manchin on the infrastructure bill and dems like Gluesenkamp-Perez on student debt. Democrats always make sure they have spoilers so they can talk about wanting to do stuff, but find a reason they can't so they don't piss off corporate donors.

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u/MachiavelliSJ 2d ago

Sure man. Sure

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u/Timozi90 2d ago

It's called a publicity stunt.

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u/gereffi 2d ago

If you want to call making the US a better place to live a publicity stunt then I’m looking to support politicians who put on publicity stunts.

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u/Timozi90 2d ago

And the cycle continues...

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u/thrownawaz092 2d ago

*allegedly