r/dankmemes ☣️ 1d ago

How the US System really works

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u/Akhanyatin 23h ago

One gives you lousy presents, and the other rips your arm off to beat you with it, but yeah, both parties are equally terribly bad.

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u/Oppopity 22h ago

Who the fuck is saying they're equally terribly bad?

Also I wouldn't call genocide a lousy present.

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u/Akhanyatin 20h ago

Ah yes, those pesky genociding Dems, it's a good thing the antigenocide republicans are here to put a stop to it.

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u/Oppopity 20h ago

Strange. I never suggested republicans were anti-genocide.

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u/Akhanyatin 20h ago

Good thing there are other viable options 

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u/Oppopity 20h ago

That aren't beholden to the whims of corporations and lobbyists?

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u/Akhanyatin 16h ago

I saw that you replied but your comment was removed, I don't know if you removed it or mods or whatever. I just wanted to say that the morality of an action doesn't depend on who does it. But there are gradients, not everything has to be exactly terrible or exactly great. And in this case there clearly is a "team" who's doing much worse for the issue that you care for (and everyone else's issues for that matter) than the other.

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u/Oppopity 16h ago

This is where I disagree.

I don't think Trump has done anything materially worse for Palestinians than what we saw under Biden. Would Biden or Harris have posted ai videos of themselves sunbathing in Gaza? No. But that's not what matters, murdering people is what matters and when it comes to genocide there is only one genocide. You're either committing genocide or you aren't.

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u/Akhanyatin 15h ago

Sure, let's compare them:

On one hand, you had one that, at the very least, pretended to try to hold Israel back. On the other you have the one who said "fuck it let's turn this into a resort".

On one hand you have one that, at the very least, pretends to take public pressure and protests under consideration. On the other you have the one who will do everything he can to get you arrested and, if applicable, deported.

From what I can see here the death toll has been relatively consistent, but the injuries increased dramatically from Jan 2025. I wonder what happened in Jan 2025.

Donald trump was sworn in on 20 Jan 2025, Israel blocks aid into Gaza on 24 Jan 2025. Is it a coincidence that they waited this long?

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u/Oppopity 15h ago

On one hand, you had one that, at the very least, pretended to try to hold Israel back. On the other you have the one who said "fuck it let's turn this into a resort".

In other words. Equally bad but one is honest about what they're doing.

On one hand you have one that, at the very least, pretends to take public pressure and protests under consideration.

It's like you're agreeing with me but then coming to the opposite conclusion. How is this not proof that they only care about corporate and lobbyist interests over people?

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u/Akhanyatin 20h ago edited 20h ago

That was sarcasm. The US has two parties, everyone else is just for show. Now you seem to find the Israelo-Palestinian conflict important. Let's see how both parties were talking about it:

Kamala: I expressed my serious concern about the dire humanitarian situation there. [...] What has happened in Gaza over the past 9 months is devastating. The images of dead children and desperate hungry people fleeing for safety [...] We cannot look away in the face of these tragedies, we cannot allow ourselves to become numb to the suffering, and I will not be silent.

Trump: but we're gonna take care of Israel and they know that. Bb called me yesterday and we have a very good relationship. Fortunately they didn't listen to Biden because of they'd listen to Biden, they'd be waiting for a bomb to drop on them. [...] So we're gonna do a lot for Israel.

I'm assuming that your point of view is that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. I don't know about you but one of the two speeches doesn't sound so genocidal imo.

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u/EdrissMiakhel ☣️ 17h ago

Word cheap action speak louder then word the genocide start under dem and let continue and supported I am not saying that republicans are any good too but genocide was something that both party committed and both party support existence of apartheid state so how come one is better then another?

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u/Akhanyatin 16h ago edited 15h ago

On one hand, you had one that, at the very least, pretended to try to hold Israel back. On the other you have the one who said "fuck it let's turn this into a resort".

On one hand you have one that, at the very least, pretends to take public pressure and protests under consideration. On the other you have the one who will do everything he can to get you arrested and, if applicable, deported.

From what I can see here the death toll has been relatively consistent, but the injuries increased dramatically from Jan 2025. I wonder what happened in Jan 2025.

Donald trump was sworn in on 20 Jan 2025, Israel blocks aid into Gaza on 24 Jan 2025. Is it a coincidence that they waited this long?

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

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u/Akhanyatin 7h ago

I don't know if you're aware, but your message was removed. But uhm... The US didn't start shit lmao are you going to blame Biden fit Russia's invasion too? Lol

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u/lukwes1 20h ago

Biden forced them multiple times to give aid to gaza. If you think that is promoting genocide then I don't know what to say lol.

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u/Oppopity 20h ago

I suppose Nazis didn't genocide Jews because they feed them as well.

You can't bomb people and then give a little aid and say you aren't genociding them.

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u/lukwes1 20h ago

Okay, so the Nazis forced groups to give aid to Jews, as part of their genocide? They forced them and fought with leaders of groups to make sure the jews got aid? Also you understand why they were fed right (hint: they were labour camps)?

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u/Oppopity 20h ago

You're saying despite America sending bombs to be dropped on Gaza, it can't be a genocide because they also gave them some aid.

In concentration camps Nazis gave Jews some food. Despite intentionally murdering them, would you also agree the holocaust wasn't a genocide?

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u/lukwes1 20h ago edited 20h ago

You're saying despite America sending bombs to be dropped on Gaza, it can't be a genocide because they also gave them some aid.

The bombs are intended for Hamas. That is why. Intention is important when it comes to genocide.

In concentration camps Nazis gave Jews some food. Despite intentionally murdering them, would you also agree the holocaust wasn't a genocide?

Yes, to keep them alive for labour. If they weren't needed for labour they happily let them starve. Biden didn't force Israel to give them aid so they could be put in labour camps. That is a huge difference so these two situations aren't analogous like you are claiming.

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u/Oppopity 20h ago edited 19h ago

The bombs are intended for Hamas. That is why. Intention is important when it comes to genocide.

Unironically pulling the "but they were Hamas!"

Those babies? Hamas! Every hospital? Hamas! Journalists? Refugee camps? All of Gaza? You got it! Hamas!

Edit: Excellent tactic. Make a strawman and then block me.