I saw that you replied but your comment was removed, I don't know if you removed it or mods or whatever. I just wanted to say that the morality of an action doesn't depend on who does it. But there are gradients, not everything has to be exactly terrible or exactly great. And in this case there clearly is a "team" who's doing much worse for the issue that you care for (and everyone else's issues for that matter) than the other.
I don't think Trump has done anything materially worse for Palestinians than what we saw under Biden. Would Biden or Harris have posted ai videos of themselves sunbathing in Gaza? No. But that's not what matters, murdering people is what matters and when it comes to genocide there is only one genocide. You're either committing genocide or you aren't.
On one hand, you had one that, at the very least, pretended to try to hold Israel back. On the other you have the one who said "fuck it let's turn this into a resort".
On one hand you have one that, at the very least, pretends to take public pressure and protests under consideration. On the other you have the one who will do everything he can to get you arrested and, if applicable, deported.
From what I can see here the death toll has been relatively consistent, but the injuries increased dramatically from Jan 2025. I wonder what happened in Jan 2025.
Donald trump was sworn in on 20 Jan 2025, Israel blocks aid into Gaza on 24 Jan 2025. Is it a coincidence that they waited this long?
On one hand, you had one that, at the very least, pretended to try to hold Israel back. On the other you have the one who said "fuck it let's turn this into a resort".
In other words. Equally bad but one is honest about what they're doing.
On one hand you have one that, at the very least, pretends to take public pressure and protests under consideration.
It's like you're agreeing with me but then coming to the opposite conclusion. How is this not proof that they only care about corporate and lobbyist interests over people?
Do americans have the same or less rights now than they had under biden?
Did the blockade start before or after trump's inauguration?
Did the injuries increase at a stable rate or did they grow much faster under trump?
Did trump ever do anything to serve anyone but himself?
When did israel enter iran?
Who pledged to give carte blanche to israel?
Who's making more and more weapons available for israel?
Which party is consistently voting against any kind of positive change for the people vs which one can sometimes bring up good legislation?
In other words. Equally bad but one is honest about what they're doing.
No, one's worst behaviour is not doing anything, and the other's best behaviour is not actually nuking Gaza.
And even if you wanted to pretend that they are both exactly the same on I/P, do you not care about anything else at all? Do you not care about security, rights, social benefits, infrastructure, jobs, or the economy? Probably not, I'd guess that you're barely affected by it, and are very safe and confortable behind your screen while innocent civilians, journalists, and aid workers get murdered in Gaza. But hey, at least you called out the evil Dems and let a crazy fascist in the oval office for the second time! That'll help the poor kids in Gaza!
That was sarcasm. The US has two parties, everyone else is just for show. Now you seem to find the Israelo-Palestinian conflict important. Let's see how both parties were talking about it:
Kamala: I expressed my serious concern about the dire humanitarian situation there. [...] What has happened in Gaza over the past 9 months is devastating. The images of dead children and desperate hungry people fleeing for safety [...] We cannot look away in the face of these tragedies, we cannot allow ourselves to become numb to the suffering, and I will not be silent.
Trump: but we're gonna take care of Israel and they know that. Bb called me yesterday and we have a very good relationship. Fortunately they didn't listen to Biden because of they'd listen to Biden, they'd be waiting for a bomb to drop on them. [...] So we're gonna do a lot for Israel.
I'm assuming that your point of view is that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. I don't know about you but one of the two speeches doesn't sound so genocidal imo.
Word cheap action speak louder then word the genocide start under dem and let continue and supported I am not saying that republicans are any good too but genocide was something that both party committed and both party support existence of apartheid state so how come one is better then another?
On one hand, you had one that, at the very least, pretended to try to hold Israel back. On the other you have the one who said "fuck it let's turn this into a resort".
On one hand you have one that, at the very least, pretends to take public pressure and protests under consideration. On the other you have the one who will do everything he can to get you arrested and, if applicable, deported.
From what I can see here the death toll has been relatively consistent, but the injuries increased dramatically from Jan 2025. I wonder what happened in Jan 2025.
Donald trump was sworn in on 20 Jan 2025, Israel blocks aid into Gaza on 24 Jan 2025. Is it a coincidence that they waited this long?
I don't know if you're aware, but your message was removed. But uhm... The US didn't start shit lmao are you going to blame Biden fit Russia's invasion too? Lol
Okay, so the Nazis forced groups to give aid to Jews, as part of their genocide? They forced them and fought with leaders of groups to make sure the jews got aid? Also you understand why they were fed right (hint: they were labour camps)?
You're saying despite America sending bombs to be dropped on Gaza, it can't be a genocide because they also gave them some aid.
The bombs are intended for Hamas. That is why. Intention is important when it comes to genocide.
In concentration camps Nazis gave Jews some food. Despite intentionally murdering them, would you also agree the holocaust wasn't a genocide?
Yes, to keep them alive for labour. If they weren't needed for labour they happily let them starve. Biden didn't force Israel to give them aid so they could be put in labour camps. That is a huge difference so these two situations aren't analogous like you are claiming.
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u/Akhanyatin 23h ago
One gives you lousy presents, and the other rips your arm off to beat you with it, but yeah, both parties are equally terribly bad.