Musk has an extremely polar "fanbase" especially on reddit people either absolutely love him and don't care about any bad things he's done or they absolutely hate him and don't see the good things he's done.
Ehm no, he hasn't done good things. He's done things that make him look good. Tesla was not founded by him, there's a lot of other electric cars already, he fucks over his own employees, even his assistants. I'm also not really a fan of him commercializing space travel.
There's more, Behind the Basterds had a good episode on him
Well that's what the company says is priority number 1, but since when do we trust companies on their word? I think the issue mostly is that space travel is mostly a scientific effort and not much beyond that (for now at least). Making space travel more accessible doesn't really solve any problems on Earth, it's only a "cool" and interesting endeavour. To me Musk could do much better things on Earth instead of finding ways to go off Earth
Musk himself once said pretty much what you said - altough there are many problems on earth which need fixing, many things that should be improved, space travel that is cheaper and reusable (so less emissions and less harm to the environment) is also something that improves life on Earth. Also imagine WW3 happened and we all nuked ourselves to death, by building an outpost on the moon and mars at least a small group would survive.
You really ought to investigate the NASA spin off technologies to see ways that space technology impacts our daily lives. Also if we wait to fix the problems on earth then we will never go. Also former and current employees have been interviewed have all said that a factor in their decisions is if this gets them to Mars faster.
Depends on how your feeling, even though Michael Jackson was a pedo it doesn’t make his music any worse to me. You can appreciate good things while recognising the other bad deeds the creator has done
Well, I don't know if the things Musk has done are really good deeds or more ideas he liked and was able to market very well. Bill Gates uses his money to invest in good things, not making profit of it in any way
He also threw a fit over Covid restrictions in California and put his workers in danger, has stopped his workers from unionizing and there’s the thing of child labor cobalt mines in the DRC.
It's not like how owns those mines, only thing he does is buys already made batteries from a different company or just buys the product from whoever sells the lithium from these mines.
Probably until the end of this year we will see full production of Tesla's new batteries which won't use lithium.
That's a good point. Probably if not Tesla a few of these mines would be closed, but it still doesn't mean that Musk has any say over how the workers there are treated. As I've said, he just buys the product.
It's comparible if I'd say that you support child labour when buying an iPhone, because it was recently in the news that Apple knowingly picked a few factories that relied on child labour.
Well, I'd say Musk does have at least limited influence. If he really cared, he could put his foot down, as the mines probably need him as much as vice versa.
I would say that if you buy an iPhone that you are supporting child labour. I own a Samsung and therefore I also probably do. I don't 100% agree with the comparison though, as Musk is the CEO of the company and not the customer. Both are responsible, but the CEO more directly.
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