Musk even mistreats his engineers. They're expected to work cheaper than market, and unpaid overtime, because of "the appealing idea" of working in TESLA/SpaceX.
Isn't that pretty much par for the course if you work in any of the top level tech companies? Not saying it should be like this, but Musk isn't like The Evil Person™ just because he's on top. All these motherfuckers are vile.
In a way, yes, law of market suggests if you're a wanted company then you can afford to pay less. But generally, big and wanted companies are extremely high standards on the work load, but valorise their engineers a lot with high pays and loads of advantages. At google they do everything so you feel at home and comfortable so you stay there and work.
*They do everything to make you feel at home, so they have to pay you less to stay.
There isn't some magic about Google that makes them nicer than other employers. They just have a different strategy to optimize work extracted per money.
E.g. they offer free food, but there is a yearly bill on your paycheck (depending on location they have to declare it) for it. So it is free as in eating one more chocolate bar doesn't cost you anything, but in the end it is calculated to cost the company less money per employee.
Recruiters love to sell the idea that somehow Google is just nice and loves their employees, so they constantly gift them stuff. Buy really it is called a salary and they deduct it from the money part.
There isn't some magic about Google that makes them nicer than other employers.
Yes there's no magic, you're here to stay 24/7.
There's no magic anywhere, they either treat you minimum and expect you to do minimum and stress you to squeeze the shit out of you. Or they give you everything so you feel glad to be squeezed the shit out of you.
But sometimes some company expect both, and that's when it gets weird. They expect you to be happy to squeeze yourself for nothing.
i mean the engineers at faang that do get recruited are usually top notch engineers, although it's slightly easier to get in if you can secure an internship through a degree
That's not really what i meant, i meant that the engineers at faang usually deserve there pay, whereas i definitely agree with you that Tesla & spacex engineers get vastly underpaid if it's true that they get paid way below average
Correct. At least when you're working for Elon you're working for a man who actually wants to save our damned species. If I'm going to be treated like a cog regardless, I want to at least be part of the machine that brings humanity to the stars, not the one that drops cluster bombs on civilians. I will be an engineer at SpaceX.
I wouldn't say top-level companies, i would say companies whose heads are billionares. Cant reach multiple billions without safety violations, underpaying for workers or resources all in the name of the bottom line.
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u/RicardoSins_69420 100% DankExchange material Jan 08 '21
Just do what you always do bezos. More workers, less money and a dirty Environment for the workers