r/dankmemes Mar 13 '21

I am probably an intellectual or something Europeans be like

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u/PantherX0 Mar 13 '21

Doesnt having a fucking kid at the hospital cost like 20k tho?

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u/mickey_s Mar 13 '21

You really think that every person that wants to have a kid has to save up $20k?

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u/PantherX0 Mar 13 '21

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u/PastaPastrami Mar 13 '21

It gets expensive if you need a C Section, but there are instances where your insurance could cover almost the entire cost. So it would be more expensive for blue collar workers, but white collar workers would have it cheaper due to the better insurance on average.

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u/PantherX0 Mar 13 '21

... so its just cheaper for rich people and more expensive for the poor? Sounds nice.. for the rich

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u/PastaPastrami Mar 13 '21

Middle Class people, yes. If you don't have the means to pay for the birth, you have no right deciding to have a child to begin with.

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u/HolyRomanSloth Mar 14 '21

Please say /s

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u/PastaPastrami Mar 14 '21

No, I wasn't being sarcastic. Perhaps a bit harsh, but it's true. If you can't afford the ability to give birth to the child, what makes you able to even afford taking care of it? I don't mean that as a punishment for poor people, but as protectional for children. Nobody deserves to be poor, and it would cause undue suffering to the child if they can barely be afforded by their parents.

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u/PantherX0 Mar 14 '21

Ure right in a way, no one deserves to be poor, but in the same way no one deserves to be rich either, its all mostly just decided from birth or by luck. That goes double in america, so claiming only people of money should be allowed to have kids is like saying having children are a game of chance really. Other evidence for this is that if ure poor and uve got something like diabetes u die because u lost the game of chance that is being born in america. And that in and of itself is why i think of america as a third world country, u might have a sewer system and available education, but for some, the right to live still comes down to chance.

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u/PastaPastrami Mar 14 '21

Statistically saying, most wealthy people are self made. There are plenty of people who deserve to be rich, but no one deserves to to be poor. Middle Class people aren't rich, they just aren't poor. The situation is not nearly as dire as you're making it out to be. The right to live isn't up to chance, you can still do raise children if you're poor, but it's not easy. I say that as someone who grew up extremely poor, but is now sitting Middle Class at the age of 22. You won't die as a child if you grow up poor, but your family won't have it easy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '21

That argument’s got holes in it considering families to this day are squeezing out kids onto dirt floors at zero cost in villages with no running water or electricity. I don’t think that not having access to luxuries, or the means to buy those luxuries means you shouldn’t have children.

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u/PastaPastrami Mar 14 '21

Things are a bit different in third world countries. You can't compare the ability to have kids in third world countries to that of first world countries.

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u/MolassesFast Mar 14 '21

If you think about it though...

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u/mickey_s Mar 14 '21

The cost isn’t very much different anywhere else, it’s just a matter of who pays for it

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u/PantherX0 Mar 14 '21

Not true at all, in most other countries its vastly cheaper because its not decided by private corporations and its actually regulated.

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u/SchmurrGaming Mar 14 '21 edited Mar 14 '21

Nazis are bad

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u/mickey_s Mar 14 '21 edited Mar 14 '21

Ass sphincter says nazi

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u/SchmurrGaming Mar 14 '21

nazi

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u/mickey_s Mar 14 '21

I knew it

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u/SchmurrGaming Mar 14 '21

Ok but seriously why would a for-profit system be cheaper than a nonprofit system

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u/mickey_s Mar 14 '21

It’s not that it’s cheaper. It’s just not paid for by the government and other programs

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '21

My girlfriend paid nothing for the birth of our daughter, it was covered completely because she was “technically” a single mother with no employment. However if we had done it “the right way” by getting married I’m sure there would have been major expenses.

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u/PantherX0 Mar 14 '21

Thats a nice loophole tho, Congrats!