r/dankmemes • u/UnironicThatcherite I want to cum on Margaret Thatcher's tits ☣️ • Jun 21 '21

Depression makes the memes funnier God bless teachers

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u/Jolly-Structure-354 Jun 21 '21

Okay not gonna lie mad respect to teachers now in my adult life i think the shit they go through baffles me god bless teachers indeed

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u/The0715juice Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 21 '21

My respect for K-12 teachers has gone through the Roof since I finished university

My view on university professors & aides however has dropped dramatically

Edit: sorry for the “K-12” mishap, i should’ve just put “K through 12”: I just figured a hyphen was simple enough

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u/Mingablo Jun 21 '21

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u/Unwaz Jun 21 '21

ǝɹǝɥ ɟo ʇno ʇǝƃ puɐ ǝʇoʌdn ʎɯ ǝʞɐʇ

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u/bell83 Eic memer Jun 21 '21

ǝuo ʇǝƃ ɥʇoq noʎ os 'pɹɐʍɐ ǝǝɹɟ ɹǝɥʇouɐ ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ uǝɥʍ ʞɔɐq ǝq ll,ᴉ ˙ǝzǝǝɥʍ ǝɯ ǝpɐɯ ɥʇoq ǝsǝɥʇ

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u/Brick_Mouse Jun 21 '21

ɹᴉs noʎ ɹoɟ ǝʇoʌdn uʍopǝpᴉsd∩

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u/asian-zinggg Jun 21 '21

Lol 'K-12' is definitely how you're supposed to say it. My teaching certificate literally has K-12 on it.

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u/trevor8568 Jun 21 '21

I am at a tier 1 research university and I have had truly incredible professors. In fact, some of my best professors are also the ones with the most impactful research. I don't think being good at teaching and being good at research are mutually exclusive; in fact, I would argue there is a lot of overlap, because conducting research means teaching graduate and undergraduate research assistants.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 21 '21

Am I the only one who liked having professors whose top priority in life wasn't my dumb-ass undergraduate self?

Seriously, that is the shit that actually got me ready for the real world - not K-12 where the teachers had every incentive to make sure I passed their class.

Granted, for younger kids it's a bit different - they're still learning how to deal with structured environments.

But at some point you gotta figure out how to be self sufficient, you're like the hundred millionth person who's tried to learn calculus - you likely have a collosal library and the internet available to you - figure it the fuck out!

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

K-12? I had to Google that shit. You make them sound like military targets on a map grid. No wonder the US has so many shootings.

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u/Disaster_External ☣️ Jun 21 '21

Thats the grades... k=kindergarten, then grade 1 to 12. Call it the same here in Canada.

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u/Esperoni Jun 21 '21

In some provinces, not Canada wide.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Well you people have your milk in bags, so...

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u/Peeche94 Jun 21 '21

Coffee shops do too in the UK, it has some practicality, but home use seems annoying.

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u/The-dude-in-the-bush Jun 21 '21

We use the terminology K-12 here in Australia. Maybe something to do with tied to Britain

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u/Peeche94 Jun 21 '21

UK is Reception-year 1 through 11, then college and uni, but we are discussing milk bags, how is your milk in Australia?

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Firmly in $2 plastic 2L bottles. Currently prices are $2.10 with the extra ten cents for the farmers because of the lack of rain, although I think that’s just become a defacto price hike because it was supposed to be temporary.

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u/The-dude-in-the-bush Jun 21 '21

Not in bags. Our milk comes in plastic 1-2L bottles. Just upsidedown

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u/HalfChocolateCow Jun 21 '21

I would think that wax covered cardboard is more environmentally friendly than a plastic bag.

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u/Peeche94 Jun 21 '21

I think it's down to because they're bags the can move about = fit more on one truck = less carbon emissions, but yeah you're right, it still being plastic is the issue.

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u/randymarsh18 Jun 21 '21

There is milk in bags here in the UK? What ive never seen or heard of that!

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u/FreudianNipSlip123 Jun 21 '21

Also some provinces, not Canada-wide

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u/DapperDildo Jun 21 '21

We are thinking of the environment.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Organic wax coated cartons? Miles better than a plastic bag.

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u/dicetime Jun 21 '21

Paper manufacturing is often more damaging to environment than plastic.

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u/DapperDildo Jun 21 '21

I could be wrong but from what I remember the plastic bags even have less of an environmental impact then the cartons do. I can't find much to support my position though other then this random article.

https://www.treehugger.com/ways-reuse-old-milk-bags-4857930

which does not really, just helps make them less impactful on the enviroment by showing other uses.

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u/mayonnaisebemerry Jun 21 '21

if you were really thinking of the environment you'd drink oat milk

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u/immortalworth Jun 21 '21

Wtf do you think those giant metal milk dispensers in Cafeterias and Buffets use? BAGS. We get just as freaky as Canada.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '21

I'm Canadian. It's not the whole country

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u/gtrdundave2 Jun 21 '21

Mexico does the same.

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u/Archer-Saurus Jun 21 '21

I'm finally gonna get my grade 10

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

It’s not rocket appliances

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u/Dreammemek Minions Enthusiast Jun 21 '21

Here in the east, we have P-12 (Primary)

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u/peacelovenpizzacrust Jun 21 '21

My buddy Ricky got his grade ten

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Quebec maybe since we have a shit system that has to be different because of course it fucking does, how else would we feel special?

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u/mississauga145 Jun 21 '21

Quebec is special, but every time they point it out, it tarnishes.

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u/Monbey Jun 21 '21

In Quebec we don't have grade 12, it's grade 1 to 6 then 1 to 5 in high school

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

What is the benefit of that? That just makes shit confusing for people who aren’t used to that. “Oh yeah I’m a 6 and a half foot third grader”

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u/Professional_Emu_164 number 15: burger king foot lettuce Jun 21 '21

Is kindergarten just one year?

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u/smartdawg13 Jun 21 '21

Yes and prior to that it’s preschool or “pre-k”

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u/FlightLevel420 Jun 21 '21

Isn't pre-K for developmentally delayed kids? I always thought it was something different from preschool

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u/FrostedSapling Jun 21 '21

It’s pronounced “K through 12” so it doesn’t sound very military like

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21 edited Feb 13 '24

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u/bigbrentos Jun 21 '21

This is Striker Three One, Copy. Strike Inbound.

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u/DoomHedge Jun 21 '21

You make them sound like military targets on a map grid. No wonder the US has so many shootings.

Without a shred of hyperbole, this is probably in the top 5 stupidest things I've ever read on reddit.

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u/SonGoku1992 Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 21 '21

All the idiots taking a joke seriously on dankmemes of all places are even more stupid

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u/DoomHedge Jun 21 '21

It isn't a joke.

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u/iamnewlegend47 I have crippling depression Jun 21 '21

It is a joke. It’s just an incredibly far reach for one of the most overused, low hanging fruit jokes ever. Low hanging fruit jokes should be an absolute slam dunk or should be said ironically. Otherwise the joke comes off douchey af. Like it did here.

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u/littlepredator69 I am fucking hilarious Jun 21 '21

Tbf 2 years ago it might've been, before we'd heard every variation of "haha Americans have school shootings, so funny"

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u/Alternative_Cat1934 Jun 21 '21

ah yes. defining a range of grades with a letter and number causes psycopathic behavior...

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u/tastytastylunch Jun 21 '21

Yeah pretty far reach for a joke thats played out anyways

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

I think native English speakers wouldn't see that at all. It's a huge projection at best, though I suspect you're just suffering a fluency gap. K is a German loanword in English, "kindergarten." It's the first academic grade in several nations' education systems.

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u/Erevas Anime Ambassador Jun 21 '21

I am a German native speaker and I didn't make the connection between the K in K-12 and kindergarden. Although it makes sense I guess.

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u/buddboy Jun 21 '21

isn't kindergarten a German word? How are the German grades organized?

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u/Erevas Anime Ambassador Jun 21 '21

Usually Kindergarten gets kind of separated from school. You have 4 grades of primary school and then 8 grades of middle & high school (4&4 or 8 depending on the education).

So when someone says he is in 6th grade that's usually the 2nd year of high school or the 10th grade in total.

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u/KausticSwarm Jun 21 '21

It's a garten of kinders. A. GAR. TEN. OF. KIND. ERS!

I hope yelling loudly and speaking slowly helped.

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u/zochev Jun 21 '21

It's a large assumption that native english speakers would know what K-12 means.
I suspect it's just a knowledge gap, but that education system is only used in US and Canada and not in other native english speaking countries.

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u/PocketRocketInFright Jun 21 '21

It's 21 years really.

More like 5 months and 4 days.

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u/oodunkin Jun 21 '21

its still a little bit of a leap to go from "K-12 to gun violence"

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u/GoldenGonzo Jun 21 '21

Do you really think someone who self-proclaimed themselves "the great" would make smart, logical conclusions?

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Sounds like you did great K-12.

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u/DGGuitars Jun 21 '21

What? Its a numbered list do you people all need to associate numbers with shootings?

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u/FirebirdIX ☣️ Jun 21 '21

“Haha America bad! School shooting! You all suck!”

EU takes every opportunity to act like they don’t have problems by shitting on the U.S.

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u/pineapple_calzone Jun 21 '21

Nah european redditors just love to take any any reason, no matter how utterly unrelated to shit on america. Who's the bigger cunt, the school shooter, or the one who thinks school shootings are rich grounds for punch down comedy? The former, obviously, but not by much.

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u/CanadianODST2 Jun 21 '21

The stuff I’ve seen people make fun of the us for baffles me at times.

It’s to the point I’ve seen stuff like they have door handles on the front of their houses or the light switch in the bathroom is inside the bathroom and not in the hall.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

This comment was fire.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 21 '21

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u/pineapple_calzone Jun 21 '21

Yeah and it's so clearly in our power to do something. You know, because all Americans are the same. The fact of the matter is half of America has been held hostage by cryptofascists for 30+years. Nothing we can do about it. But what you lot choose to do is the broad equivalent of making fun of German Jews in the mid 30's as though it's their fault.

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u/Pandorasdreams Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 21 '21

Our country and much of the world is increasingly entrenched in power structures that are hard to challenge or change. Many of us are certainly trying though! Sometimes the dials get turned in horrible and ridiculous directions when growth is happening and the right setting needs to be reached. I don't feel like it's time to give up or be negative. I don't know if itd ever be time for that. Its definitely true that much of the country has acted really dumb but that is what happens when you have the recipe of faith-vulnerability=extremism.

A few things have happened in my personal experience in recent months to reinforce the beauty and love I know humanity is capable of which could (hopefully!) get us to that startrekesque future. I agree with you that it's good to point things out, but it's also very easy to be right anytime you are complaining. I try to think about what will actually help someone in a given situation/help the situation I'm thinking about and it rarely (although sometimes could be) by straight up putting them down without anything else in there.

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u/SerHodorTheThrall Jun 21 '21

No, the phenomenon of "hurrdurr America is different" is a very European one. As someone who was raised in LatAm, I rarely see it there, for example.

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u/otakarg Jun 21 '21

Shaming someone for doing something wrong is usually powerful enough that they stop doing the bad thing. And if they don't you can shame them for that too

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u/pineapple_calzone Jun 21 '21

It's not "shaming" it's just being a disrespectful dickhead.

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u/otakarg Jun 21 '21

I believe it's much more disrespectful to let kids fucking die in schools because guns are much more accessible to them than anywhere else in the world. Set your priorities straight then talk

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u/pineapple_calzone Jun 21 '21

Oh sure, I'll personally get right on that, seeing as, of course, it's totally within my power to unilaterally pass and implement gun legislation. And, talking of things that are within our power, how about you exercise your power to not be an insensitive douchebag, and go unilaterally fix your own country's problems since it's apparently so fucking easy.

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u/CornyBiscuit490 Jun 21 '21

Oh my God lmao

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u/Vardhu_007 Jun 21 '21

yeah that was different. in our place we just call school teachers and college professors

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u/Liquidtomatoes Jun 21 '21

MILITARY TARGETS ON A MAP GRID I’M DEAD LMAOOO

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u/thatrandomguyonreddi Jun 21 '21

I like how this went from k-12 sounding like military map grid to plastic milk bags

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

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u/soleax-van-kek Jun 21 '21

Tanks are awesome

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u/ElGuapoGucciman Pass Holder Jun 21 '21

Shut up or I’ll shoot you with my tank

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u/BananaBoiz42 Jun 21 '21

Sir we have eyes on K-12 armed and ready waiting for your command to fire.

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u/elfismyname Jun 21 '21

Congratulation you just won some American's heart

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u/StarsDreamsAndMore Jun 21 '21

That's so weird because my opinion on elementary school teachers in specific is they're pretty terrible. But this is entirely anecdotal and tbh I'm sure I had some good ones.

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u/thesynod Jun 21 '21

I bet you had Professor Staff for many of your classes too.

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u/The0715juice Jun 21 '21

No just really dull professors who are quite old and who had no drive or energy about them: and the young (primarily female professors) who seem scared to have their authority questioned which just made them seem stiff

Our guest lecturers were more memorable than any of the ordinary ones

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u/xfortune Jun 21 '21

RIP preschool program teachers

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Professor’s and aides are…eh.

They really don’t care if you pass, and as an honor student up until graduating 12th grade it’s pretty piss poor that you can be failed simply because the professor doesn’t like you.

It was the only class I failed in my life, 69 D, and was definitely BS because I made A’s and B’s through the entire class, and went above and beyond for several things on the syllabus. She told me that she didn’t think I was ready to succeed in the class, thus why she failed me.

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u/clutzyninja Jun 21 '21

Don't be sorry, people are fucking stupid

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u/Zorpholex Jun 21 '21

No need to apologize. Made perfect sense to me. My high school was labeled as such.

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u/Moss_Piglet_ the very best, like no one ever was. Jun 21 '21

K-12 is enough… Idk how anyone can confuse that

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u/ExiaValvrave Jun 21 '21

Same. Uni professors are the worst if they're lazy.

"Independent learning" my ass.

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u/jal2_ The OC High Council Jun 21 '21

Yeah its crazy how little respect for anything kids have, not just towards a workings man lot, kids usually dont have respect for each other, for animals or environment and so on

Worst is if they have crappy parents who never teach them this and they carry it over to adulthood you have entitled idiots all over the place

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u/Sawses Jun 21 '21

Honestly I think it's more a matter of a lack of experience. I'm not sure how much I'd blame kids for not realizing that the pizza comes out of the teacher's personal money, or that they don't have a lot of that money to begin with.

It's not like the teacher is gonna tell them that and guilt them lol.

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u/HearingNo8617 Jun 21 '21

I think the issue is that they're mostly socialising only with kids their own age and until people are able to socialise with another group, they do not appreciate that other group

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u/TheCluelessDeveloper Jun 21 '21

But it is up to the parents to teach them to appreciate gestures of good will.

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u/Sawses Jun 21 '21

I think that, too, comes from experience. You don't really appreciate a gesture until you know enough to understand that practicality isn't all that matters.

All the kids know is they were promised a fun pizza party. If it isn't as much fun as expected, they don't know how to be grateful for the attempt because they've never been in a situation where they tried and failed to achieve something like that.

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u/themellowsign Jun 21 '21

You can't tell a kid to be a good person, you have to show them.

One way or the other it comes down to experience. Not every kid had the time to experience everything they need to be a functioning person. Give 'em a little time, they haven't been around that long yet.

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u/DRSKC Jun 21 '21

Experience and understanding are key to developing empathy in students. As a teacher, I’ve paid for plenty of pizza parties! But I don’t miss the chance to make even a celebration into a teachable moment. We figure out how many pizzas we’ll need to be satisfied without waste. We calculate the cost, and include the price of a generous tip for our delivery driver. The kids are clear about the fact that I pay for their meal out of my own pocket; it’s a sacrifice but not in a martyr way. In return, they volunteer for various tasks like bringing a goodie to share or to help with clean up afterward. It’s a group effort and gratitude and pride are at the heart of it all.

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u/Jolly-Structure-354 Jun 21 '21

Dude their everywhere i dunno where i got my morals from but i was a saint compared to some

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u/jal2_ The OC High Council Jun 21 '21

well, wasnt talking about you, but in general average, and like you said 'compared to some' which means there are a lot of really bad kids

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u/Jolly-Structure-354 Jun 21 '21

Na i know you wasnt. Just was talking from my experience

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u/webby131 Jun 21 '21

I did a brief stint as a TA for a local high school for college credit and learned that it's very easy to have it roll off you. It's the real-world equivalent of going back to the starting area of an RPG and getting attacked by a Lvl 1 mob. It really was eye-opening how much growing up a person does like I didn't remember any of the HTML code they were learning but the teacher just handed me a cheat sheet that I looked over for 5 mins and had down while they were taking a week to learn it, and they were obviously still figuring out social skills. I learned if I ever went into teaching I would be way more concern about my ego rather than being able to handle kids being shitty. I got a big one and I can see how teaching is a power trip for a lot of people.

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u/BestUdyrBR Jun 21 '21

Maybe I was just unlucky but the vast majority of my teachers before college were terrible. I do wish the good ones were paid more though.

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u/writemaddness Jun 21 '21

Plenty of bad teachers out there, that's for sure. I wish school boards would do a better job of taking care of them, so the ones who become assholes or stop caring can be weeded out. And the ones who won't become assholes don't become assholes.

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u/thornangdol Jun 21 '21

I have a friend who is a kindergarten teacher, gets paid 32500 a year. Brings home barely 900 dollars each paycheck and still, he gets the kids gifts for their birthday, Christmas, Halloween, etc. Buys all his own decorations, lamination paper, food for class party's, snacks for the kids, etc.

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u/Jolly-Structure-354 Jun 21 '21

A god among men hounestly you can tell he cares if he goes and does that

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u/thornangdol Jun 21 '21

Every year, almost every kid cries because they don't want school to be over. They don't want to leave with their parents. He talks about those kids with such passion and empathy and it makes my heart nearly burst. When a kid doesn't do so well in the beginning of the year but starts to improve even a little bit, the glow in his face is remarkable. There are a lot of teachers out there that are burnt out, have been treated badly so they're now cold, and/or just not capable of teaching anymore and it's very sad. His coworker for example is possibly the coldest woman I've ever met. 1st graders will want a hug and she denys them all touch and all compassion. If a child is behind she will talk badly and call them stupid. That's an example of someone who shouldn't be a teacher anymore. I just wish in the united states we would give what teachers need so they don't get burnt out.

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u/akoshegyi_solt Jun 21 '21

A good teacher works around the clock and puts their soul and heart in it. Yet, they earn as much money as a LIDL cashier. At least in my country.

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u/lathe_down_sally Jun 21 '21

It varies by state in the US, but teachers in my state make a nice wage, have summers off where many choose to supplement their income with summer jobs, and have excellent health benefits and retirement plans.

Teacher is a good job here.

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u/4gotWhyIwalkedInHere Jun 21 '21

Just curious, where do you live that the teachers get 2.5 months paid leave? I looked into getting my teacher certification but it's not worth it. The pay is ridiculous and the teachers in our area (TX) are required to work over the summer. They are in the building 2 weeks after the kids are out (early June) and 2 weeks before school starts (early August). Over the summer they are required to turn in lesson plans each week and attend CU type training (so work from home). Many have to teach over the summer or pick up another job to make ends meet. My MIL had 2 jobs on top of her full-time teaching job. We are thinking about moving and I'm wondering where teachers might have it better?

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u/croit- Jun 21 '21

Literally none of this would be possible for the average teacher in the USA.

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u/majestic7 Jun 21 '21

That's 1000 USD, if I calculated it correctly.

I would imagine two-week trips to Dubai and Thailand would be pushing it on that income, as it would easily cost multiple months' salary.

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u/akoshegyi_solt Jun 21 '21

FYI, my mom is a teacher and they are not free during the whole summer holidays. They have meetings and everything, and they have only a few days more paid leave than others do, the difference is that others use it when they want.

And my old art teacher had a Mustang, but not from her salary. His husband is rich and her whole salary went to charity.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

They don't get paid time off. It looks like that because they get paid during the summer but their wages are garnished a little bit each month they work to get a paycheck in the summer. Also a coach can put in a good 12 to 14 hours a day and if there's a game on Saturday, another 10 hours. They are in charge of transportation of students, food, making sure they pass (at least in Texas with their "No Pass, No Play"), equipment, you name it all for a stipend of $1,000 per sport. Who in their right mind will put in 20+ hours a week for 2-3 months for an extra $1000? So that gym teacher who can take their family to Dubai either had some really good connections or I'm calling bullshit.

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u/chuckquizmo Jun 21 '21

"I know one person who took one vacation so therefore all teachers are probably paid too much"

You're a fucking moron.

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u/chuckquizmo Jun 21 '21

This all makes you seem like even more of a fucking moron

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Some teachers come from rich families you know

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u/Mrperrytheplatypus Jun 21 '21

Do you live in Sweden?

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u/CptMuffinator Jun 21 '21

Yeah, even in my last year in high school I still thought teachers would be provided stuff for their job by the school.

Only teacher I knew who supplied his own stuff was my physics teacher... Because he was smashing printers and ripping up phonebooks.

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u/CurlyConnie Jun 21 '21

Most everything that goes in my classroom is mine. I supply things the kiddos might need during the year (pencils, loose leaf paper, art supplies, etc.) I also have a bunch of “extra” stuff (like bandaids and pads/tampons) that students may ask for. All of it is an out of pocket cost.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 21 '21

It looks a lot better from the outside. Wife just quit teaching. Just in time, too. "Critical race theory" is banned. It sounds like doublespeak in the first place. Imagine being punished for doing your job and having to mention how white people weren't playing nice before.

You can't teach past elementary these days. It's because parents don't give a shit about their kids and school administrations are businesses. On top of that you have bible thumpers being led by politicians. The answer is to stop teaching. Teachers are typically extremely overqualified. They can take that expertise and go make more money and be more happy (once they're able to break their Stockholm syndrome). The best thing a teacher can do for teaching is to quit and let the US see that they're the glue in the system.

If you know a teacher and they're:

  • Bringing work home because there aren't enough hours in the day
  • Staying late at work
  • Working a second job (even during the summer)

Then you need to tell them to bail. My wife told me that she felt that you have to work overtime to be considered a "good" or even "normal" teacher. Fuck that.

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u/ice445 Jun 21 '21

IMO good teachers quitting just hurts the kids in the end. Not saying that it's a good teacher's *fault* for quitting, because it's not. But I just don't see it teaching anyone a lesson (ha) that would lead to meaningful change.

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u/Badpeacedk Jun 21 '21

Don't blame good teachers for kids hurting. Blame the systems that aren't helping the good teachers stay in their teaching positions.

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u/ice445 Jun 21 '21

I do blame the systems, education should be a country's greatest focus. Yet here we are, where it's deemed a waste of money and a chore. I guess I'm just pessimistic, but I feel like a good teacher quitting isn't even noticed by the bureaucracy. It's all been boiled down to numbers and templates anyway.

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u/Lortekonto Jun 21 '21

Good teachers are actuelly often fired.

I am not american, but work with schools all over the world. Including, sometimes, the USA.

Now schools work a bit different depending on school districts and states, so what I say now doesn’t apply to all school districts nor states.

In some states teachers have a very low starting wage. They increase that wage by getting experience and additional education and certifications.

The problem here is that the teachers with most experience and education can end up costing two or three times as much as a new teacher, but can still only teach one classroom at a time.

Which means that it is not uncommon practice for administration to fire their most experienced and best qualified teachers.

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u/writemaddness Jun 21 '21

Way to misunderstand what crt is. If your wife picked you to marry, I assume she's like you. So it's probably best that she not be forming the minds of the future of the US.

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u/Sawses Jun 21 '21

If you know a teacher and they're:

Bringing work home because there aren't enough hours in the day Staying late at work Working a second job (even during the summer) Then you need to tell them to bail.

How on earth do you successfully teach without working overtime? Like I got to student teaching and hell even I was working overtime. It's why I left lol.

You're right though--the objective best thing any teacher can do for the education system is to quit and refuse to work for anything less than enough to raise a family on.

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u/blamethemeta Jun 21 '21

If you cant figure out how crt is racist, she probably shouldnt be teaching. Fun fact: kids are not responsible for the actions of long dead people just because they share a skin color

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u/writemaddness Jun 21 '21

Way to misunderstand what crt is. If your wife picked you to marry, I assume she's like you. So it's probably best that she not be forming the minds of the future of the US.

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u/blamethemeta Jun 21 '21

I think you replied to the wrong comment

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u/writemaddness Jun 21 '21

Oof. You're right. Thanks

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u/daisuke1639 Jun 21 '21

Fun fact: kids are not responsible for the actions of long dead people

No one says they are...

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u/blamethemeta Jun 21 '21

CRT and those who teach it do.

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u/daisuke1639 Jun 21 '21

Really? So, like, my fellow teachers are saying these exact words, "You are bad for being white" or "Black people are better than you" or "Your grandpa was racist, so you deserve less than others?

Have you heard these things in the classrooms? I haven't...

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

The problem with CRT isn’t that it’s racist (although it is).

The problem is that it’s a perfect way for the oligarchs to keep the proles fighting among themselves. Helps keep us distracted from who is actually fucking the average person.

Anything that’ll keep the focus on race and away from class.

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u/OceLawless Jun 21 '21

If you cant figure out how crt is racist, she probably shouldnt be teaching. Fun fact: kids are not responsible for the actions of long dead people just because they share a skin color

Tell me you don't understand critical race theory without telling me you don't understand critical race theory.

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u/blamethemeta Jun 21 '21

Tell me you don't understand what exactly the law banned and why saying the law is bad without saying it.

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u/Neuchacho Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 21 '21

The ban is complete theater for mouth breathers who don't understand that no one was realistically going to start teaching CRT outside of college-level courses (which they still can), let alone to kids.

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u/TheSimpleSage Jun 21 '21

Acknowledging that systemic racism exists in the US is not telling kids they are responsible for the past....

Making students aware of theories used to explain the world is not indoctrination, it is important to provide different lenses for students to examine our history.

I really wish people like you who know nothing about education would stop telling experts about their own field.

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u/Neuchacho Jun 21 '21 edited Jun 21 '21

Explain why you think CRT is racist because it's literally the opposite in practice. All it does is put forth the theory that our systems that show systemic racism are that way due to complex social and institutional dynamics. It is countering the idea that they are that way due to intentional and malicious prejudices of the individual. It is also just that, a theory. It's not meant to explain the world perfectly, it's meant to give a jumping off point in explaining why our systems may be the way they are. It could very well be wrong, but it takes more than insisting it's 'racist' with zero explanation to show that. It takes more than the current, completely dishonest rhetoric about it "teaching kids to hate America". These arguments so far have had zero substance to them.

If anything, it is giving racist systems the benefit of the doubt that they weren't intentionally meant to be racist in their current forms, but became that way either through poor implementation or failure to anticipate and react to inherent, albeit incidental, biases as they showed themselves.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

If you're against teaching the history of this country because it makes you uncomfortable then are the problem. Get therapy and leave kids out of it.

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u/blamethemeta Jun 21 '21

Thats not crt, and thats not what the law banned

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Tell me in the most explicit wording possible what "CRT" is and what exactly this "law" "banned".

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u/Sawses Jun 21 '21

Wait they banned critical race theory in your wife's school? But that made up a pretty significant part of the core concepts of education as I was taught them--meeting the student where they are, instead of expecting them to be able to just do what you want how you want it.

Honestly I got to student teaching before realizing that I can't handle having that little power over my own life. You're at the mercy of parents and admin, and expected to work long hours with little pay for your trouble. I dipped and went back to science lol.

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u/knuggles_da_empanada Jun 21 '21

ITT: people who either have no idea what CRT is or are such snowflakes that they can't handle learning about history

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

That definition is such a handful.

The reality is that parents are using it to punish teachers who talk about America in relation to how it's treated minorities. Broad topic that is brought up often in the history of this country. "critical race theory" in itself is doublespeak.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Parents who disagree with public schooling have two options that see a lot of play. Homeschooling and private schools. That's kinda why they exist. Plenty of people in the South are homeschooling without issue.

And if you don't think parents are punishing teachers then you probably don't know a teacher. Sorry. It's like that.

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u/UnknownSpecies19 Jun 21 '21

Yes! Like I feel bad for all the teachers lives I probably made harder. A thankless job 90% of the time

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u/MunchamaSnatch gave me this flair Jun 21 '21

All of the teachers that went back to my middle school to teach do coke now. And they get a summer break away from work

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u/crayongirl00 Jun 21 '21

Affording coke on a teacher salary!?

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u/AtonyPlayz Jun 21 '21

i truly agree. most people misunderstand what they have to go through

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u/b1ack1323 Jun 21 '21

All my teacher friends drink heavily because of the parents and administration. Underpaid, overworked and every year more paperwork to make it harder to ask for some God damn pens.

The iconic grading pen, Uni-Ball Blue and Reds are not on the approved pen purchase list because they are too expensive. Bruh, you try grading 80 homework assignments with a dog shit Bic.

Try to buy food for your class and get written up because the school doesn't want to take the liability of a teacher getting a kid sick.

Just bullshit after bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

They do it for the pension. My mom used to be a teacher but the kids made her life extremely hard. She stayed up late to check their homework and stuff. She is a cook now

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u/dante__11 Jun 21 '21

Swear to god. We thought we were being edgy and funny when we were giving teachers a hard time. I feel sorry for some of them. Sorry miss molly.

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u/zeurgthegreat Jun 21 '21

Well, most of them

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u/MrZyde 100% DankExchange material Jun 21 '21

Yeah I wish I let myself see the amount they slave for us when I was still in school.

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u/ZX9010 Jun 21 '21

I do to except most teachers are shitheads themselves

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u/R1se94 Jun 21 '21

Like honest to god, yes some of them may have given up on me at some point, but a lot of them really put up with me and set me straight. I thank teachers who don't give up on problem students all around the world, thank you kind souls.

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u/FireFoxx_55 Jun 21 '21

My math teacher got in a car accident and now has a bunch of broken bones, some classmates were making jokes about it just because they dont like math :( but the teacher is great, always there for help and letting you re-do tests. I really dont know how some people can be so mean

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u/Fyrefawx Team Silicon Jun 21 '21

If you have kids or nieces/nephews reach out to the teacher about supplying Pizza or cup cakes for a class party. They will never turn it down. They always have to use their own money.

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u/DontJudgeMeImNaked Jun 21 '21

Today much more than before. Qhen we were kids we were a little afraid what ahw could do to us. Today kids don't give a shit - she can't do nothin'.

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u/oogabolabo Jun 21 '21

I never understood how they keep their temper. If I had to deal with a bunch of secondary school children fucking around in my lesson somebody would be thrown out of the window.