r/degoogle 1d ago

DeGoogling Progress My phone is now 100% Google free

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I used Gemini every now and then as my only Google app installed, but then a message appeared saying some chats might be checked by Google developers for “quality checking”. So… now my phone is finally Google free!

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u/averymetausername 1d ago

Well done. Its a positive move in the right direction. Privacy doesn't need to be absolutist and these steps are excellent moves to remove your dependency on big tech.

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

Thanks. Someone just made me notice I still have Snapseed which is from Google but it’s account-free and offline… I’ll try to uninstall it and see what I can do with the pre-installed photos app.

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u/averymetausername 1d ago

It should be fine. Most apps use firebase to control logins which is a Google product. If you wanted to still use your product offline and block all Google domains you can use next DNS and block it like that

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u/BeneficialGrace9790 Mozilla Fan 1d ago

Agree with the "privacy doesnt need to be absolutist" bc some ppl still depends on big tech apps.

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u/-LoboMau 2h ago

Exactly. Small steps accumulate. The biggest win is realizing how much *less* data you leak once you disentangle from their services.

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u/Akagi2525 1d ago

Ur still using Snapseed, Adobe and WhatsApp. It's no different from Google.

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

Omg!! I forgot about Snapseed!! 😞😞😞 Adobe is payed by my university so while I have it, let’s use it! It’s still a tool after all. I’ll be meta free after graduation, so no WhatsApp either

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u/mangoburgerEWW 1d ago

Can you tell me about the Adobe being paid by your uni?

I'm not aware of it.

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u/canola_shiftless250 1d ago

some schools pay for your adobe tools, since you need them for courses

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u/mangoburgerEWW 1d ago

Are you doing major in graphics or something?

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u/HomelessMan27 1d ago

A lot of high schools pay for licenses for every student and some colleges let you borrow a license even if it's not your major, I've gotten Autodesk software that way

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u/LimesFruit 1d ago

Pretty sure the requirements for Autodesk software is you simply have a qualifying school email address. I was able to access whatever Autodesk software I wanted without having to ask my school for it.

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u/canola_shiftless250 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm not OP, but it's very common practice, and in other majors too

CS majors will get IDE licenses, Graphics will get Adobe licenses, Many people will get Autodesk licenses

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u/user_8804 1d ago

Example mine paid for everything Microsoft regardless of the major you could still use say, visio. They have large scale corporate deals. These companies give the licenses for peanuts to get students used to certain suites in the hope they'll stick with them for a lifetime after.

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u/FrostBurnXP 1d ago

Also if you are intrested i remember that when i went to my grapich school, they had really tons of extra keys since they did have a deal as in school package, so if you had portable pc they would give you abobe software for free (they didn't give you the key directly of you tried to sell it or something) and we are talking like: Photoshop, illustrator, premiere, audacity, and i think 2 more i forgot (they were the 2016 version tho)

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

I’m studying product design, they provide licenses for many software. Rhino (as you can see), AutoDesk, SW, and Adobe cc

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u/Ripraz StartPage 20h ago

Wtf for US they just gave that goddamn Office 365. We basically had to pirate every software we had to use, and I helped a lot of people preventing them to be forced to pay. Multinationals that gave millions over millions, and they are so stingy, fu I will pirate everything

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u/chechekov 1d ago

As for the Adobe products, the meme goes: you can always pirate adobe products, it’s always morally correct (given the shit Adobe pulls, this is indisputable). This can’t really be applied on an iOS app, though I’m not sure how much mileage can one actually reasonably get out of it, since I can’t really imagine creating bigger projects on a phone (maybe viewing or sharing them I suppose).

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u/SuccessfulTowel7947 11h ago

As a student, use whatever you need for your courses of course.

Once you're done with school you can check out Affinity's design suite which is a non subscription and one time purchase alternative.

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u/Sas_fruit 1d ago

Yes I thought it was sarcasm or something because I thought it looks iOS so is it really degoogle because iOS

Reddit, weather apps, adobe etc use some google background connection i suspect

But Snapseed should be fine considering Snapseed works offline

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u/cfx_4188 1d ago

Theoretically, OP is right. Adobe does not belong to Google.

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u/-LoboMau 2h ago

Yep, WhatsApp is owned by Meta, which has its own data issues, and Snapseed is Google anyway. It's tough to escape entirely.

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u/PotatoStasia 1d ago

What are you doing when people WhatsApp message you or try to start groups? Do you direct them to telegram or discord?

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u/3nt3_ 22h ago

telegram and discord are both terrible options

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u/PotatoStasia 21h ago

So then what?

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u/3nt3_ 20h ago

signal, matrix ...

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u/maggiethemagpie2 11h ago

both are something every "normal" person definitely has

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u/3nt3_ 10h ago

most people I know have signal

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u/maggiethemagpie2 10h ago

same with myself and the people i hang up around, thankfully, but I can't imagine an average person who barely even knows what imessage is having it remember, most tech people vastly overestimate the technical skills of the average person

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u/3nt3_ 10h ago

I have matrix for friends and signal for my parents.

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u/mindar95 1d ago

I don't want to ruin your fun, but Snapseed is also by Google 😅😁

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

Yeah, I forgot about that. Sorry.

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u/M1k3y_Jw 1d ago

I also use snapseed, just disable data for the app.

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u/Squidieyy FOSS Lover 1d ago

Tim Cook is laughing at you

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

One tech giant at the time 😞

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u/arbeitsspeicher 1d ago

When jumping from chrome to safari or from google mail to apple mail you havnt made a step forward, just sideways.

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u/axellie 1d ago

Apple has great privacy features, sure it could get even better but then you have to sacrifice a lot imo

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u/XeNoGeaR52 17h ago

True. Also for online maps, Apple Maps is the one that uses the least amount of personal data amongst the tech giants.

Apple knows their main opponent is Google and they know data privacy is an easy target for them as Google relies on our data entirely.

Apple is still not a saint, far from it but it's imo better than Google or Microsoft.

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u/arbeitsspeicher 1d ago

I dont think that google sells the data (cant be sure tho), but they use it to generate a profile to target their ads better. Apple only protects you from other companies, but nothing stops them from creating a profile of you for themself (and selling it, but its here even less likely). But i see the argument.

I just think its worse concentrating all services at one company instead of spreading them out. They can create a better and more detailed profile of you and you get more dependent of the one company. But i guess it depends, i see the point of rather having the data being stored at apple instead of google.

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u/GeekyCrow27 20h ago

for many people, the idea of the data being used for advertising isn't the bad part, it's the selling of it to multiple companies

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u/BasicInformer 18h ago

I think people should just do what they can. I have Linux, LibreOffice, Proton suite, Brave/Firefox w/ Brave Search, Mullvad Browser, Signal, Strawberry, Notesnook, Ente Auth, Ente Photos, Filen.io, etc. However despite doing all this, how can I get rid of YouTube, Google Maps, and Google Translate? What other privacy FOSS equivalent is as good? Certain accounts also require Gmail and don't accept Proton Mail.

Also regarding phones, most phones use Google to some extent unless you use a customOS, which then breaks functionality and removes stuff normal people need/use. Like Google Play Store/RCS. I chose Apple because I like their ecosystem and apps, and they have encryption/privacy options, and I trust them more than Google, who owns Android/RCS/Play Store, which dominates all other phones.

Also Safari is the best option on Apple. Even PrivacyGuides recommends it because all other browsers are just Safari with a layer on top essentially. Just get AdGuard and turn on privacy features and call it a day.

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u/AlexGaming1111 12h ago

Privacy isn't really the word here. Because all your data belongs to apple and they read and use it all. They simply don't sell it afterwards as much as the rest. So while an improvement it's not really private it's just less people seeing it.

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u/BasicInformer 18h ago

Trust me, getting rid of all tech giants is a pain in the ass and not worth it in some cases. Google translate/maps is too good compared to its competition - even Apple. Even I, someone who's DeGoogled a lot and ran to Linux still use Google to some extent. I mean hell, YouTube is fucking Google, RCS is Google... It's everywhere. Just do the best you can.

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u/Cyber_NinjaX21 1d ago

Atleast they don't sell all our data.

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u/Far-Replacement-1668 1d ago

How do you know with certainty lol

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u/Cyber_NinjaX21 1d ago

I wouldn't say they don't collect and sell our data, but not at the level of Google. That's not their business model. Google's main money source is from ads.

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u/-B0NE 1d ago

Never trust any US-Tech giant ever. If even one secret service comes knocking, no matter what "values" they claim for themselfes will be thrown overboard.

I would also like to point out that Apple is sharing users' personal information at the request of the Chinese government. (which is understandable in a way because otherwise they would not have the whole chinese market at their disposal)

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u/divin31 1d ago

I would say this is copium for android "wannabe geeks" who watched too much LTT, saying "Apple also does it".
No proof of Apple using/storing user data. Their design is privacy focused, yet they still get criticized more than android. I wonder why.

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u/schklom 1d ago

Their design is privacy focused

  1. Not for privacy from themselves
  2. They sell ad space, like Google, although not on the same scale
  3. They also comply with Chinese government
  4. They disabled ADP in UK
  5. They could make a lot of ADP into the default (E2EE for many of their apps)

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u/divin31 1d ago
  1. I don't understand what you mean by this

  2. Apple advertising is a bit more complicated. First of all, they don't sell your data to 3rd party like others.
    Secondly, they use a so called anonymous audience segments, which means, they advertise based on x people sharing similar characteristics. If you search for dogs on apple devices, pet toys will not start to appear, (unless you use google).
    Thirdly, you have the option to opt out of every types of analytics sharing.

  3. They are forced to comply, else they would be banned from selling. Even in laptops you're forced to turn off TPM chips when you visit China.

  4. Again, they were forced to do so. Governments can force regulations on companies by law. If you followed the recent news, the UK tried to forced Apple to integrate a backdoor into iMessage and FaceTime. Instead of silently complying (like some companies would) with the request, they publicly responded that they would rather disable iMessage completely and fought against this regulation until they won.

    1. Could you give me some examples? From what I know, they use E2EE in all of their apps where it's possible. Even for icloud you have the option for ADP, where the keys are generated locally on your device and not even they can decrypt your data on their storage. Who else does this?

In Android if you disable certain google services, your phone won't work normally anymore. Also I've just red they're planning to disable sideloading apps by next year.
You think you're free when using android devices, because influencers say so, but actually it's just an illusion, and Google is very clear in their ToS about using your data for whatever they want. Good luck opting out from that.

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u/IllJackfruit7508 13h ago

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u/divin31 10h ago edited 10h ago

Thank you for the video, dear "wannabegeek".
I watched it, and it's further proof how delusional you guys are.

Most of the claims are based on highly exaggerated, cherry picked and biased information without acknowledging any of the positives.

I really like it how you view me as sheep, while in reality, if you could think for yourself just a little bit instead of parroting what influencers tell you, it should have been a red flag when something is presented either all black or white only. There's no only good and only evil in life, but for some reason, this is how some people view the world in their bubbles.

Just to name a few examples of the misleading claims in this video, as it would be too much time for me, to fact check all of it:

Claim: Apple dropped E2EE due to FBI pressure
Fact: Apple resisted the FBI in the 2016 San Bernardino case. iMessage remained E2EE

Claim: Apple missleads you with their privacy policy
Fact: this is subjective and biased. Even if you're lazy or don't have time to read it, nowadays, you can just ask ai and it will summarize it for you.

Claim: Apple collects data they are capable of collecting
Fact: exaggerated and false. You can literally opt out from data collection.

Claim: icloud backups are not E2EE
Fact: in 2020, due to FBI pushback, they ditched their plans for going full E2EE. Instead they introduced an alternative (ADP), which is E2EE, and the encryption key is generated and stored locally. I wonder why the influencer forgot to mention this.
Name one other cloud storage provider who has such an option.

Claim: Apple contractors listened to Siri recordings
Fact: this happened in 2019, where users were opted in for sending analytics.
Later Apple apologized and replaced the audio recordings to an on device text generation only where users manually opt in for analytics.

Claim: anonymous location data is impossible
Fact: this is just bs. I won't even go into this one. Look it up yourself

Instead of listening to influencers and spread misinformation, maybe you should do your own research sometimes. Here are a few you might want to look into:

https://petsymposium.org/popets/2022/popets-2022-0033.pdf

Potential access to the AdId was more widespread among Android apps than iOS ones. Among the studied apps, 86.1% of Android apps could access the AdId, 42.7% on iOS, allowing them to track individuals across apps easily.

Note: this study was done in 2021, affer which Apple introduced the "request app not to track feature"

https://vpnoverview.com/privacy/devices/iphone-vs-android-privacy-deep-dive/

He noted that during the first ten minutes of startup, the iPhone sends around 42KB of data(Google collects about 20 times more). In general, he noted that the operating systems connect to their back-end servers on average every 4.5 minutes, whether they’re in use or not.

https://www.scss.tcd.ie/doug.leith/apple_google.pdf

Despite deselecting the "Send usage and diagnostic data" option during the startup process, a substantial quantity (ap-proximately 1.2MB) of telemetry/logging data is sent by the handset to play.googleapis.com/log/batch and play.googleapis. com/play/log. The handset also sends 1.1MB of device data to www.googleapis.com/experimentsandconfigs and 181KB to android.clients.google.com/checkin. In total, around 3.6MB of data is sent to Google servers (via URL parameters, headers and POST data), see Figure 4(a), and 952MB of data are received. That is, almost two orders of magnitude more data is uploaded by Android (3.6MB) than by iOS (42KB) during startup

Also, Google stores every wallet transaction on their servers. While Apple does not.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Apple-Pay-vs-Google-Pay-security-diagram-image-2.jpg

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u/IllJackfruit7508 8h ago edited 8h ago

wow you are trying so hard to defend apple 😂😂 again classic iSheep, believing what apple say, wow user of r/Apple, r/ios lol as expected 😂😂 and stop yapping

I am not like you who believes in a corporate and anti-consumer like apple

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u/Zephyr_Bloodveil 1d ago

"Because apple bad, apple expensive, apple is only for rich people, Apple started a green bubble war" Basically all the reasons I see about why (most) tech people hate Apple.

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u/keldzh 1d ago

I don't understand what do you mean by tech people. If we talk not from a consumer perspective, then first what came in mind is closed sources and lack of information about how things work.

And the second would be poor support of standards. If you don't have MacBook/iMac and iPhone and iPad and Apple's Wi-fi router you cannot even send data from your phone to your computer and may not be able to connect to some Wi-fi networks :-)

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u/schklom 1d ago

They sell ad space like Google e.g. on App store. It's just not on the same scale as Google

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u/SpecialRow1531 1d ago

am using apple myself and i’ve declouded, de icloud , de googled my set up. idk what else can really be done except getting like graphene, which requires a new phone which i could care less for.. i self hosted (but it’s only a small mini pc for now) just enough though

that been said i still use youtube music and i don’t see that changing anytime soon. so i concede google, you can have my eclectic ass goated ass music taste.

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u/Squidieyy FOSS Lover 1d ago

Piracy is your friend when it comes to music.

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u/SpecialRow1531 1d ago

that’s true. but A - i don’t think i have the storage.

B - i listen to a wide range of music and like to discover new music, and i know scrobblers exists, but i don’t think there’s an apt replacement for ytm

c- the ytm database is massive, including DJ sets which again size concerns, remixes, live versions

i’d be happy to have a good self-hosted replacement but i don’t think i could do it feasibly…

more over, though it’s less of a concern and i think in my use case i have ways around them anyway.. ad-free youtube is very nice

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u/the_3L4CK 1d ago

like facebook is better then google…. cmon

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u/MaxEnf 1d ago

He de-googled indeed, but what we all should do is de-bigtechs

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

Meta is next in my plan. I want to delete all of my instagram accounts by the end of October and WhatsApp after graduation (next year)

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u/Neddo_Flanders 1d ago

Meta is far worse than google. Also, use Mistral AI instead of Gemini

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u/TSF_Flex 1d ago

Do you pay for Mistral?

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u/Neddo_Flanders 23h ago

Its free to use. Idk if theyve a subscription model

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u/TSF_Flex 14h ago

bruh. Any free AI is as bad as the other, privacy wise. You switching to Mistral got you nothing.

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u/jeodesic 1d ago

Deleting WhatsApp... Is that possible in EU? Cuz few days back there was a post under which comments were saying how it is impossible to be without WhatsApp in EU

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u/nuhanala 15h ago

It is possible. I don’t have a WhatsApp account. People learn to adapt.

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

Basically… yes. I’ve been without WhatsApp for around a year, when I was 14/15 and it was hard to explain why every time someone asked and ask people to text or call me

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u/partyclank 1d ago

I still see Google classroom but I assume that's for school, good job either way!

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u/ShabbyChurl 1d ago

Dear comment section: please ditch this „all or nothing“ mentality. It’s hard enough to rid yourselves from any megacorp. Let’s just celebrate the small victories. There is always something more any of us can do.

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u/arbeitsspeicher 1d ago

Yes, but posting those screenshots helps nothing at all. What apps did he ditch and what substitute did he use for some of them. 

Jumping from google maps to apple maps helps nothing at all, he just picked a different poison. But if he changed to open street maps, thats strong. 

If all he did was to switch to apple products, thats even worse. Now he isnt partially dependent on several large companies but he is highly dependent on a single company.

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u/TrueFlameslinger 1d ago

Then we should be celebrating the step off of google while encouraging the next steps and giving pointers on good things to do.

You can speak positivity into a situation AND encourage further action simultaneously, it's a great way to keep people going in an already harsh world

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u/arbeitsspeicher 1d ago

You are absolutely right and op is definitely identifying the danger of large data-collecting companies. Thats a great step!

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u/ShabbyChurl 11h ago

I see where you are coming from, and you are correct, but words matter. We should be more encouraging and go more like „this is awesome, congrats. Here is another recommendation for an alternative to an app that I see you are still using. I recommend looking into that“ or something along those lines. Going „meh, you still use Facebook“ feels kinda gatekeepy. This can lead to less people having the guts to post about their degoogling journey and less encouragement for people that want to try.

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u/xantozable 1d ago

I see you made a big step in the degoogling and are clearly doing well in that regard. Don’t look too much into the salty comments on here. There is always the next step and its mainly getting data back into your own hands.

Nice job!

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u/Nervous-Version26 1d ago

Yes! OP did a good job

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u/Sparky_Otter Tinfoil Hat 1d ago

Next, you should de-apple.

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u/ImAlekzzz 1d ago

Try no to de-apple

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u/8Octavarium8 1d ago

Next on your list: WA. It must die. Get signal.

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u/terminalslayer FOSS Lover 1d ago

Now the only remaining thing is to deapple.

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u/jeodesic 1d ago

Google will be rolling the new "every developer should be licensed for android apps" next year around this time. Idk what will be course from that point. Even F-Droid app devs will be under google monitoring.

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u/terminalslayer FOSS Lover 1d ago

Then the only option is to switch to graphene os if that happens.

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u/Dottore_Curlew 1d ago

EU might still stop that

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

One day man

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u/terminalslayer FOSS Lover 1d ago

I also will switch to graphene os one day 🤝

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u/Professional-Good914 1d ago

Did you use something like ADB App control to remove all the bloat wear and background crap that Google put on too? The fact it was even able to inform you that some chats may be checked means they are still in the background.

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u/suicidenation 1d ago

Snapseed is google

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u/Undecided6772 1d ago

Rhino 3d has an app for mobile??

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

Yes, but it’s mainly for opening files

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u/Undecided6772 1d ago

That's cool, I guess you can view the 3d models? I've been away from rhino for a bit. Wonder if they have an app for android.

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

There’s no genuine Rhino app for android, but I’m sure there’s some universal 3D opener

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u/Undecided6772 1d ago

Yeah there are. Thanks.

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u/VeryCoolPersonYesYes 1d ago

why do I see Google classrooms

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

University stuff, I’ll delete it soon

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u/Dottore_Curlew 1d ago

There isn't a single person using google classroom voluntarily

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u/Perfect_Ad_4064 11h ago

I must be a nobody then

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u/okami_truth 1d ago

Great first step. Now just ditch Apple, Meta and Adobe

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u/Frequent_Mouse2482 1d ago

nice meaningful steps forward to digital privacy!

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u/FreshFroiz 1d ago

What the hells the point in de-googling when you have an iPhone??

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u/Consistent-Army8192 22h ago

Eh sì, snapseed se non sbaglio è sempre di Google

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u/ReyxDD 9h ago

iPhone

This is a joke right?

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u/clove_rosemary_9999 9h ago

Good, now make it Meta free too because I see Wh*tsApp over there.

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u/Accomplished_Eye_868 1d ago

My dream is not having a phone at all, but I’m still rocking my iPhone 13 mini till the wheels fall off. Then I’ll see what to do

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u/Baenoo 1d ago

I think you are doing a great job, I wouldn’t worry about individual apps too much at this point and Whatsapp still is E2EE (for now) so better than using iMessage.

My recommendation would be to change safari to a browser with less fingerprinting and ad blocking. I use Brave, you could also install some tools to improve safari. Also shoutout to startpage.com which i started using recently after some struggle with DDG.

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u/_Henon 1d ago

iMessage is E2EE though and I prefer using it rather than using a Meta product tbh

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u/Baenoo 8h ago

Yeah I assumed when messaging outside of apple ecosystem however just found out that rcs is also E2EE, which is great. Definitely something to consider

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u/_Henon 7h ago

I was referring as iMessage as between iPhones, as RCS between iPhones and Android isn’t encrypted (yet) it should come in iOS 26. I personally don’t rely on either because I only use Signal, but if I have to talk to someone that haven’t Signal I would use iMessage rather than whatsapp that’s isn’t even installed on my phone.

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u/Baenoo 6h ago

Thanks very insightful! Signal would always be the best choice however for me (in Europe) is only signal or iMessage not an option yet. Giving up WhatsApp would be too much of a sacrifice in comparison to privacy gain since it’s still e2ee. Wouldn’t be surprised if there will be some headlines of meta using it for something shady in the near future though sadly.

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u/_Henon 6h ago

Yeah I understand your frustration since I actually live in Europe too and had a lot of people using whatsapp. However when I switched I just disabled notifications there and told people that if they wanted a reply under days they would have to message me on Signal and then I progressively made all my groups switch over and then I just completely removed it, I’m aware that I had quite some luck that it worked that well and that not everyone may have the same experience but I’m glad of it, especially seeing the worse it’s becoming like with meta ai being forced.

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u/MaxEnf 1d ago

Doesn't Brave have inherited Google's telemetry from Chromium? I think that's the reason Degoogled-Chromium was created.

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u/Baenoo 1d ago

Not that I’m aware of but will look into it

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u/saladnoober 1d ago

De-Apple

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u/Any-Board-6631 1d ago

Still Apple , not a big difference 

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u/mrdougan 1d ago

Good job - you are further than I am

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u/Realistic_Tea9932 1d ago

how you get Xd on your ios?

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u/01000010110000111011 1d ago

Nice job but getting rid of whatsapp is likely a good next step

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u/thequestison 1d ago

That is impossible where I live, for to book medical appointment, use WhatsApp. It's ingrained in this country.

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u/Correctads404 1d ago

Props for going full de-Google! Feels like shedding a whole layer of surveillance honestly. If you're interested in more conversations about muting the ad noise and buying with real intent , r/ownyourintent has some pretty cool stuff and a growing community of like minded people busting tech giants and sneaky algorithms, amongst other things. Join in if you’re curious, your story’s got serious inspiration potential!

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u/Neddo_Flanders 1d ago

Mistral AI > Gemini

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u/Haunterblademoi 1d ago

Excelente, Now gradually replace the applications of large technologies, Starting with Google Search which there are some very good search engines like Presearch, Then maybe you could do a little research on that.

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u/flaps-snaky00 1d ago

I so badly want to de-Google; the only app left is Google Maps and I can’t find a better alternative. Apple Maps is a fine service for the average user but I very much depend on Google Maps for travel, checking store hours, reviews, Street View and so on. I wish Apple Maps could catch up but so far it’s made baby steps

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u/TSF_Flex 1d ago

Yeah google maps is awesome. It is the best app for navigation hands down, but it's also one of the worst things privacy wise

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u/flaps-snaky00 23h ago

Such a catch-22 for sure. I’ve no doubt that even with location services turned off, there’s still a lot of data being collected by Google

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u/TSF_Flex 23h ago

Oh yes of course, every click you make, restaurant you search. Bars, Gas stations.. surely a lot more

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u/RiccardoSolis 20h ago

Try to get HERE we go Maps. It’s not clearly the same thing, but it could work.

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u/Duck1906 1d ago

Even your Google account?

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u/Jhawk2k 1d ago

My phone is completely Googlified. Getting a fresh start with a new phone this week!

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u/Cosmonaut_K 1d ago

I love the effort. One thing to keep in mind is that Apple stores their data [your data] on the Google Cloud... So you and Apple are 'paying' and 'using' Google. This is why, as many point out, it is good to go for them all.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/06/29/apple-is-now-googles-largest-corporate-customer-for-cloud-storage

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u/lowlandsfreak 1d ago

Now check with Warden what apps still report back to Google.

Blokada 5 will help stopping it a bit.

https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AppWarden

https://blokada.org/

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u/Luny_Cipres 1d ago

yeah thats how these genai chats work and why they're free. the chats are used as reinforcement to train the ai. also said on gpt. these chats are not ever claimed to be encrypted or hidden, you are talking to a bot in training. and its always recorded for training purposes.

I mean more power to you sure but don't expect privacy from training grounds? like that message should not be surprising you, that is literally its main purpose

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u/izerotwo 1d ago

Goes from Google to something arguably worse. Lmao I can't with these people. The point of degoogling is switching to a better more privacy conscious and preferably open-source standard. Because arguably otherwise their products are probably the best out there for most stuff. Moving to a worse worsening with similar or worse privacy invasive aspects is lunacy.

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u/Syzrantsev 1d ago

Now DeApple it 😡

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u/Lucky-Network-7267 23h ago

What do you use for maps?

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u/AshMost 23h ago

Wait, Apple isn't much better, are they? I mean, they sure go on about how they stop apps from tracking you, but that's just because Apple wants the entire pie for themselves. No one but Apple may sell Apple users' data.

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u/sothisismyalt1 23h ago

Oh wow... I haven't seen the Rhinoceros logo for a while. Didn't know it was still used and even was available on mobile.

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u/Maximum-Rain-7861 23h ago

Huawei is the ons thats google free 😐 without rooting or curropting phone

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u/machintodesu 22h ago

So, um...What's Rhino like on an iphone? Is it just a viewer? Can you use commands like length, angle, and distance to work off of an existing model?

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u/FinaLLancer 19h ago

What kind of phone do you have?

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u/rulerofjestos 18h ago

Can someone tell me why people do degoogle I mean what is the benefit of doing this

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u/XeNoGeaR52 17h ago

Now, try to r/deapple !

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u/daredeviltzr 16h ago

But in the end it's locked out particular vendor like apple or android

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u/Correctads404 11h ago

Major props for getting your phone Google-free! That’s no small feat these days and it’s awesome seeing more people taking back control over their devices. Each little step, even just swapping out apps, is a win for personal privacy and awareness.

There’s actually a community building around this idea of making choices with intent, not just following whatever tech giants or ads push at us. If you’re interested, check out r/ownyourintent. Stories like yours help others rethink their habits and realize it’s possible to buy and use tech on their own terms!

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u/Best_in_the_West_au 11h ago

Isnt whatsapp google?

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u/sabestorn 11h ago

No, it's from stronzuckenberg (meta)

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u/Mistic92 11h ago

Snapseed is from Google

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u/emaper_ 6h ago

Molto bravo. Anche io posso considerarmi “pulito”

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u/nigel_ydv 6h ago

umm isn't Snapseed Google's?

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u/shmatochok 5h ago

Google classroom at the bottom 😅

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u/Then_Plum2921 4h ago

i see google classroom /j

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u/mackanswede 2h ago

No not totally. Snapseed is google

u/Dependent-Try-8919 2h ago

Whait Rhino on mobile? What???

u/OctoSplattyy 1h ago

italiano che pratica degoogling, sto sognando

u/Striking_Speaker3562 53m ago

If it's easier to degoogle from iPhone rather than Samsung or the rest, I think that's my next investment: an iPhone.

I've used an Android phone since I first got a phone, now owning an S25 Ultra, but I can't say I am very pleased using it. 

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u/SectionSad4385 1d ago

"100% Google free" - on an iPhone, which is another US tech giant. With snapseed installed. Which is a Google service.

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u/marc512 1d ago

Are you still using android? Then you can't be 100% Google. You'll have to go with grapheneOS

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u/Present-Mirror-5590 1d ago

That's so obviously ios

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u/marc512 1d ago

Then why is it an achievement to 100% remove Google from an iPhone but still use gemini? I don't get it. You're just switching evil sides.

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u/Present-Mirror-5590 1d ago

Yeah but u said it wad android. It's ios. Also your points were already argued and op realized it. Why you so mad

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u/Solissoa 1d ago

I suggest you to:

  1. Move all your files from iCloud to Filen. You can buy lifetime 100gb space with Filen at 12€. Once you've done, deactive all of your synchronizations with iCloud (including contacts, photos, notes, etc.)

  2. Consider to switch from Apple Mail to services like Tuta or Protonmail. I prefer the first one, since i can use it with Tuta Calendar.

  3. Install Sidestore, so you can use sideloaded apps, if you stricly need it, like: Regram (instagram), Watusi (whatsapp), YouPlus (youtube), Reddit ++, Yt Music Ultimate. Usually, these sideloaded apps are ads-free and more privacy focused.

  4. Install Orion as a browser, so you can use web apps for many sites. Web apps are the best way to use a service, like Iliad, or PayPal for example, without giving them bunch of important personal data.

  5. You should decide to buy a VPN, it's seriously important. If you decide to, go with Mullvad or IVPN.

  6. Use these alternatives, some of them are FOSS:

- Notes → Notesnook

  • Apple Weather → OSS Weather
  • Apple Maps → OsmAnd Maps / Here Maps
  • Safari → Orion / DuckDuckGo
  • Recorder → ALog
  • Translator → DeepL / Yandex
  • Calendar → TutaCalendar
  • Social Network → Mastodon
  • Whatsapp → Signal

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u/ViegoBot 1d ago

We have to wait for them to announce lifetime filen options no? And iirc the next time theyre available is the last time theyre gonna do it I think I remember seeing in a post on their site.

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u/Solissoa 1d ago

i bought "Lifetime Starter" few weeks ago and i payed 11,99€. Now, I just took a look at their website, and it costs 29,99€. Maybe there was an offer, dunno :S

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u/ViegoBot 1d ago

O.o I never see lifetime stuff when I look. Ill look again, bc I was planning to add a little onto mine.

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u/TSF_Flex 1d ago

Just get a HDD and an old laptop and make a Nas or if possible hook the HDD right up to your router.

Fuck cloud storage

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u/Huge_Distribution904 1d ago

Google Classroom is right there…

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u/TSF_Flex 1d ago

Now do you think it's his choice to use Google classroom? You're as stupid as anyone else here.

Think two steps ahead next time, thanks

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u/Narrow_Trainer_5847 1d ago

It's a good first step, but degoogling is about disconnecting from all of big tech (to a reasonable degree). Meta and Adobe aren't really much better than Google.

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u/daksh798 1d ago

i still see google classroom

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u/AtifAyman 1d ago

Apple and google are the poison from the same snake

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u/exhale0001 1d ago

Still not private at all

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u/Dottore_Curlew 1d ago

"Hurrr durrr google so bad" while using Apple products...

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u/filmflexcable 22h ago

I don't get why Apple users degoogle. you already in a shithole anyway.

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u/hippor_hp 1d ago

You are using a iPhone

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u/tummy_muncher 1d ago

uses iphone you're sure free buddy

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u/Vanadiack FOSS Lover 1d ago

Degoogling an iPhone is practically useless. Your data is still being mined by Apple. But at bare minimum I guess you're limiting the data to only one big company.

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u/Western_Advisor_8283 1d ago

Goggle is the main search engine for safari

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u/Existing_Ground681 1d ago

Bravo, già è un ottimo passo! Apparte persone come morrolinux, in italia se ne parla poco di privacy... io ho preso direttamente la blackpill e sono andato per pixel + grapheneOS

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u/TheTimeHasComeToEnd 1d ago

and ur connected to the internet so whats the point

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u/ShgoLK 1d ago

Classroom Is from google

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u/Delicious_Artist6590 1d ago

Classroom is purely a google app

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u/TSF_Flex 1d ago

The hypocrisy, I love it

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u/Dude-Lebowski 1d ago

That looks like an apple iPhone. Aren't they basically google free out of the box?

Anyhow. good work!