r/degoogle • u/san616mofo • 21h ago
Discussion Why Are FOSS YouTube Clients Still Missing the Basics?
From time to time, I check in on projects like NewPipe, PipePipe, BravePipe, Tubular, and LibreTube to see whether anything has changed since the last time I tried them. In other words, whether functionality or usability has improved, or whether long-standing bugs have finally been fixed. But honestly, it often feels like nothing really changes - at least not in ways that are visible to the user. I know I could go through the changelogs to see the actual work being done, but the impression I get is that developers are focusing on minor things instead of addressing the biggest issues that users actually struggle with.
PipePipe, BravePipe, and Tubular are basically forks of NewPipe, with such small differences between them that it hardly matters which one you install.
LibreTube, on the other hand, seems to be a more independent project (though still based on the Pipe API, as far as I know). It's the only one with a genuinely modern and appealing UI, but unfortunately it develops at a snail's pace. Sometimes it feels abandoned or like it's just a side project maintained by a single person in their free time - despite having hundreds of listed contributors. Bugs remain open for months without anyone being assigned to them.
The biggest shared weakness across all of these apps is the lack of proper search filters.
You can't filter by views, date, or rating. You can't refine results by type (video, channel, playlist, movie). You can't limit by upload time (last hour, today, this week, this month, this year). You can't even filter by duration.
I honestly don't understand how people are supposed to use a video platform without filters. For example: if I want to find videos about Android development from the last month that are longer than 20 minutes, I have to manually scroll through endless results. That's absurd.
Another thing that bothers me: NewPipe and its forks don't just include YouTube as a source, but also SoundCloud, media.ccc.de, FramaTube, Bandcamp, BiliBili, NicoNico, etc. Honestly, who's asking for those? When people download an alternative to YouTube, they want a good YouTube client - not a bloated "all-in-one" app.
I did try the new nightly builds of NewPipe, since the team is rewriting large portions of the code to make it more stable and modern. But honestly, it doesn't feel all that different from the main stable release.
I'd really like to switch to a proper unofficial YouTube client, but every single project has some critical shortcomings. And that keeps me stuck using the official YouTube app - which unfortunately still has no real competition.
What are your thoughts on this situation? Do you also feel like these projects are stagnating, or am I missing something?