People with disabilities that are OK with marginalization are a problem.

[u/Foreign-Page-1220]

When you look at people of color, women, trans, and homosexual, they stand as one and protect each other.

Not so much with those who have disabilities. Being born with a facial deformity has brought many challenges, from school to social life and even workplaces. I've tried talking with other groups about how the treatment myself and many others get is uncalled for and needs to be fought, many agree, but say its a battle we won't win or, even worse, is they don't see a problem with it and are OK with the corner the rest of society has put them in.

Until we are one. Our voice will never be heard.

[u/kpjformat]

In every movement there are people who make unnecessary division; gatekeeping, ladder pulling, respectability politics, pick-me / one of the good ones, etc.

Educate where you can and otherwise be grateful when people show you who they are before you waste more spoons with them

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[u/hellonsticks]

Solidarity is a vital part of any marginalised group's fight. Everyone needs to work to understand, accept and make space for all types of disability, from facial differences to intellectual disability to incontinence to people who slur their words when they speak.

And recognising that we don't all face the exact same barriers and that's not a point of division, it's a point of diversity. A part time wheelchair user and full time wheelchair user face different barriers, that's okay. An autistic person who was able to choose to seek diagnosis as an adult has a very different life experience to those who didn't get a choice in childhood - and both suck in different ways, neither is inherently an easier route than the other. Someone with a facial difference and someone with an invisible disability may face very different forms of ableism but it's the same system, and it isn't made easier if your disability is seen becayse it's about ableist people and society, not about the individual. Many disabilities or types of disability have hugely varying potential impacts, from people mildly impaired to people profoundly impaired. All are disabled and part of the community. People with milder functional impairment and lower support needs should be welcomed and included. People with significant functional impairment and higher support needs shouldn't be spoken over or used as a gotcha. That level of mutual openness, of understanding "disability" from a perspective somewhat outside of ourselves andnthise just like us, can help us work towards that solidarity by breaking the boundaries on who we consider "like us" and who we aren't paying enough attention to tobnotice their absence.

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[u/Fp_Guy]

I'm going to disagree with the premise. Outside of progressive circles, there is a lot of anti LGBTQ among people of color and women. Within progressive circles the disability community is largely ignored and not supported.

Within the disabled community there is a ton of diversity of needs, so each sub group is going to naturally focus their limited energy on advocating for their needs. One issue I think the disability community has it is very scattered on prioritizing advocacy based on the crisis. There are some who see disability issues as a societal cultural acceptance issue, others an economic, others as long term care. Social justice movements go through phases, the LGTQ movement didn't start with gay marriage, it started responding to the HIV crisis that was ripping through the community, only then could they move on to more cultural issues. In a way the disability movement kind of exists in all phases at once. Not that siloing is good, it isn't, but I think disability subgroups could do better coalition building. NeuroMuscular conditions with long term care needs should absolutely be in coalition with the developmental disability community who themselves are a coalition of multiple disabilities.

[u/a_little_hazel_nuts]

I think disabled people stick together and understand the different medical conditions that can affect each person. It's the legal process of getting disability that is shitty, knit picking at the struggle and then telling someone they can do something that isn't even an option in 2025. It's a long tough process and I wish you luck. Take care.

[u/astralpariah]

Yes, the old ways remain. Shame to see that even here; those with a mental bout are among the most unwanted.