r/emergencymedicine ED Attending Jul 20 '24

Advice US won’t come in if pain >12hrs

Working at a new site, US techs are very picky, will not come in for torsion studies if pain is >12hrs. I talked her into coming in and she’s pissed af, said she knows I’m new and “I’ll learn the protocol”.

Am I in the wrong?

Edit: Does anyone support the US tech or rad protocol and do you have any studies or evidence to support this practice? I’m just wondering if they pulled this out of their ass or where they got the arbitrary 12 hour thing?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

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u/KumaraDosha Jul 21 '24

Oh my, the fact that you think ultrasound is just a physical skill shows you know nothing about ultrasound or its profession.

Ah, gotcha, you’re an ego one, if not both. Hope it’s not stinging you because the “some doctors are morons” shoe fits a little too well!

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

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u/KumaraDosha Jul 21 '24

That’s because you are usually not the one to witness any of our reasoning, lmao. Rads can attest to seeing a bit more of what we do, but mostly our logic and education are used in environments with just us and the patient. That sonographer was acting outside their scope of practice and seems particularly ill-informed, at least on that matter. None of this is the same as all sonographers only having physical scanning ability.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

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u/KumaraDosha Jul 21 '24

K lemme write up that dissertation real quick to satisfy your genuine good-faith curiosity instead of you simply educating yourself and getting to know the human beings you work with.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

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u/KumaraDosha Jul 21 '24

“Beep boop, I am doctor, I fix patients. Knowledge of other professions in proximity does not compute, does not fix patient. Will not expend limited hard drive space on respect-and-understanding algorithms.”

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

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u/KumaraDosha Jul 21 '24

You don’t know why reading up is important, but you’d like to have an asshole opinion about it anyway. I rest my case. 🤷‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

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u/KumaraDosha Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

I know, man; you’re an asshole made of glass. 😬 A glasshole.

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