A Hungarian hospital wing

[u/WillToLive_]

[u/WillToLive_]

Visited a relative in hospital. Didn't take any pictures in patient rooms for obvious reasons. Pictures don't do it justice anyway. Dilapidated walls, fixtures, furniture. Decay everywhere.

Nurses and doctors are overworked, grumpy (not really blaming them) and almost all of them on the verge of retirement. Our hospital borne infection rate is among the worst in Europe.

Many of the patients are elderly, and voted for this system and continue to do so if they get out. I want to run from this country

[u/Able_Menu5734 → u/WillToLive_]

It is exactly the same here. Including the medical staff situation and patients' electoral preferences. Greetings from Slovakia😅

[u/Piffli → u/WillToLive_]

Any chance you can share which city is it?

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Piffli]

South-eastern hungary, that's all I'll say for privacy reasons. Although I'm sure some geoguessr pro could figure it out from these pictures alone, somehow

[u/WillToLive_ → u/[deleted]]

If you're a worker there, thank you for your service, must be hard to stay sane between patient shenanigans, budgetary constraints and so on

I hope I don't come off negative about healthcare workers, they're also on the suffering end of this situation, perhaps more so than almost anyone except for the sick

[u/ElkImpossible3535 → u/WillToLive_]

Dont go to any hospital outside of the 3 biggest cities in Bulgaria. This hospital will seem like brand new

[u/utsuriga → u/Piffli]

It's much the same in Budapest, frankly. Hell, countryside hospitals have a tendency to look a little bit better than Budapest hospitals.

[u/MarkMew → u/utsuriga]

Well it depends. Gy-M-S county hospitals, yes. Tiszántúl hospitals? No

[u/CatRheumaBlanket2 → u/Piffli]

Could be any of them.
I know the one in Szekszárd looks a lot like this.

And the other ones I have seen over time as well.
But the one in Szekszárd, I have seen last year.

[u/cactusplants → u/WillToLive_]

Megbasz.

Hope Hungry gets fixed.

Orban is a retek fereg.

[u/smk666 → u/WillToLive_]

In one hospital in Piła, Poland there were actual mushrooms growing out of the wall.

https://d-art.ppstatic.pl/kadry/k/r/1/08/85/577bf9c498897_o_original.jpg

[u/Peti715 → u/smk666]

Best hospital food ever, the hospital grows food for it's patients!

[u/[deleted] → u/WillToLive_]

Weird with the infection rate. Didn't Hungary basically invent manual hygiene in medical care?

[u/WillToLive_ → u/[deleted]]

Ignác Semmelweis rolling in his grave

[u/KingKaiserW → u/[deleted]]

I’ll always stand by the fact Hungarians were at their best in the steppe, they yearn for the open fields and it’s proven by their lack of care of enclosed spaces. CMV

[u/Ok-Bit-663 → u/WillToLive_]

Well, the governing party found a better place for taxpayers' money. Their own pocket. They also control the media, so they are able to manipulate the not so bright majority to vote for them. We received this as gift.

[u/math1985 → u/WillToLive_]

Is the medical stuff similarly outdated? To be fair, I would prefer a hospital to invest in ventilators over walls.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/math1985]

Depends. Some of it is new some of it is old some of it is ancient, probably depending on what kind of EU tenders were available and how urgent it is.

The real issue is they're forced to use disinfectant sparingly, there have been reported cases where the disinfectants were diluted with water so they'd last longer. Sometimes patients have to bring their own bandages , especially with special ones for burns, gloves, etc

[u/WillToLive_ → u/[deleted]]

They get the best private care money can afford I'm sure of it, and their families too... I get sick in the stomach when I think about it. Yet this is what a majority of people voted for and they deserve it. We, normal Hungarians don't.

[u/ThimMerrilyn → u/WillToLive_]

So the majority of voters aren’t “normal Hungarians”. What are they then?

[u/WillToLive_ → u/ThimMerrilyn]

I commented a bunch about it in other subs already. The majority of voters are really a minority, as out of a population of 9.6 M, somewhat less than half of people usually vote, and out of that, there are about 1-1.5 M core Fidesz voters, "real believers" in the system, and about another 1 M mostly undecided people end up voting for them, swayed by completely media control, threats to their livelihood in case of minority votes, etc.

It's a little more than 1/10th of Hungarians I'm pointing at when I say not normal, and they truly aren't. Usually, voting for Fidesz is always a symptom of other issues, like narcissistic personalities, inability to parse information, in case of the elderly, an inability to get information from sources other than state TV, etc

[u/pdeisenb → u/[deleted]]

... And in his mind he is making Hungary Great Again. This approach will soon be repeated by our dear new leader in the US.

[u/charlie_hun → u/[deleted]]

This hospital was not renoved in the last 40 years.

[u/Soap_Mctavish101]

I know this doesn’t amount to anything, but I hope for better days for your country in the future.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Soap_Mctavish101]

Honestly, please invade us at this point

[u/[deleted]]

It’s the fault of the gays, I’m sure

[u/WillToLive_ → u/[deleted]]

At least there is no way they could do gender reassignment surgeries there, can't stop winning

[u/Stramotilaci]

Looks like a newly renovated balkan hospital. I see nothing wrong in these pictures 🫠

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Stramotilaci]

State of the art facilities from 1972

[u/desertfox3834 → u/WillToLive_]

Let's say 1952

[u/Traditional-Candy-21 → u/WillToLive_]

state of the ark

[u/[deleted] → u/Traditional-Candy-21]

It belongs in a museum

[u/d1722825 → u/Stramotilaci]

Yup. I haven't been in many hospitals, but most of them was way worse then this. This is just "a bit" old.

[u/baggyzed → u/Stramotilaci]

There's a library in my city that they've been renovating for almost 20 years now, and it's never been open to the public, ever since I moved here 20 or so years ago. Every new mayor brings about a new project to renovate it. I faintly remember reading a news article last year, that they've finished renovating and that it will be open to public this year, but surprise: this year, they're renovating it again. I'm starting to think that library is some sort of secret laboratory where they design secret weapons or something.

[u/Village_Weirdo]

It can be rented out as a horror movie set

[u/TheTealMafia → u/Village_Weirdo]

Gosh, you should've seen one of our hospital before it got renovated.. Saint John's Hospital the concrete flaking from walls and the stairs had holes in them, really gave me Silent Hill vibes.

They thankfully, after a f*ckton of pressure, renovated the ward in the last couple of years.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Village_Weirdo]

Officially, they don't allow any media reports, interviews or camera recording. Hospital staff are fired if they speak to the media. Hospital staff that hospitals are in a short supply of, mind you

[u/DrSOGU → u/WillToLive_]

Why do they keep electing Orban???

[u/ControverseTrash → u/Village_Weirdo]

Silent Hill 2 Hospital Arc - coming soon.

[u/EDM_87]

Sadly I have seen more than I wanted from a Hungarian hospital when my father passed away during his holiday. It was a culture shock as a Dutch person to walk in the hospital, but the operating rooms were top notch.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/EDM_87]

My condolences. Yes I can imagine. The reverse culture shock is also very real, I had a broken leg in Austria once and the level of care seemed like literal science fiction to me. Also, staff was professional, there was no needless waiting around, etc

[u/EDM_87 → u/WillToLive_]

Thanks! It was 6 years ago and it was a very rough time. I'm not downplaying the care, even with a language barrier everyone was very willing to help! My parents loved the country, my father especially, so for him it was the best location. Let's just say we have learned a lot that week.

I hope your country will adapt and you can make steps. They will probably make huge leaps in the next few years 🤞

[u/TheTealMafia]

The worst is folks, this is just one picture... we have a plethora of them from different hospitals. This is not a remote case, and it's only getting worse.

Some hospitals do have renovated wings that look really good, but for all of them there is a problem point, which is missing ways of getting cleaned, patient wards have no toilet papers, no liquid soap, and staff running out of the things they use majority of times (diapers for elderly residents, etc). This summer we had several hospitals have no AC in 40°C, not even in surgery rooms where surgeries had to be postponed.

This is also true for kids' wards and children-specialized hospitals as well, where reinfection is a high risk.

[u/Ribbon7]

Silent hill, S.t.a.l.k.e.r vibe

[u/jurassiclynx]

i would take a Taxi to Romania. Sad how corruption has weakened a country with one of my favorite cuisines.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/jurassiclynx]

Probably you'd be better off for it. It was the reverse situation not even ten years ago. But our people decided to throw all the progress since joining the EU away. The elderly robbing the youth from a liveable future as a final fuck you

[u/DGhitza → u/WillToLive_]

Romania ain't any better; looks to me like any average hospital especially from a small town

[u/TheTealMafia → u/DGhitza]

Sadly, it's worse in our rurals (wards shutting down left and right and the buildings look worse there too), but this is the same for Budapest as well. We "fell" to this state, from something that we could've done better on to something that is now going to take decades to even rebuild to that old state.

[u/jurassiclynx → u/WillToLive_]

the elderly make a big chunk of western demographics. thats why long overdue changes are not as progressed as they should be. funny times ahead of us, but at least we will be on the wheel soon.

[u/catsan → u/WillToLive_]

Where's the EU money going ?

[u/WillToLive_ → u/catsan]

Down the drain tbh

[u/WillToLive_]

Surgery room with a 60+ years old wooden door painted over dozens of times with the cheapest paint they could find... It's scary to think about what kind of desperate stories are connected to it

[u/HeaAgaHalb]

But hey, at least they built a viewing platform into a forest and then cut the trees. (To maybe build another one?)

[u/mrbadger30]

I honestly thought I was looking at a Romanian hospital. Before reading the title

[u/Shodan76]

Are they subsidising private hospitals instead of funding public ones? That's what right wing parties do in Italy.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Shodan76]

No. They just let go of healthcare entirely. Private hospitals and private medical care is on the rise and subsidized in some cases but isn't widespread. It'll become much more prevalent in the coming years for sure, and there are already Orbán cronies propping up around private healthcare but there is no coherent policy at all. Even right wing people and Fidesz voters support a government funded public healthcare system. They simply pretend the issues don't exist. Cognitive dissonance is palpable

[u/Puzzled-Scientist573]

I used to be a student and Budapest and it was my worst nightmare ever to end up in one of these govt hospitals because that is all I could afford as an international student. The doctors over there are amazing people though.

I didn’t do dumb shit for the entirety of my degree because I didn’t want to end up here 😂

[u/abelD1]

Free trip into the 1970s, depending on whether you can get an appointment or not.

[u/sunbejus → u/abelD1]

Born in the late 70s, growing up in the 80s. Recalling my early years trips to pediatricians, family doctors or hospitals: though the facilities always looked modest, they were always stocked with soap, TP, doctors, nurses, stationary and medical equipment. Old yes, socialist era yes but it was fully functional and good quality care (except for psychiatric wards) Our pediatrician waiting room was even purpose decorated for kids with some lovely wall murals from known fairy tales and forest animals. 

Seeing all this degradation from afar, it's impossible to comprehend where is all the money that was once there pre-EU, and where on earth are allocated euro millions - from EU taxpayers(!) - through catch-up funds😡 Those Virgin Island tax heaven money-trees probably don't grow on their own...

[u/Geraziel]

When your hospital is so old, that tiles in the first picture are back in fashion again.

Seriously, I love them.

[u/f4szt_nezed_a_nevem]

WE NEED MORE STADIONS!4!!4!! /s

[u/LoboWhite]

It looks worse in Portugal. Should see the public hospitals in Lisbon...

[u/[deleted]]

Russian hospitals look much worse

[u/sassyhusky]

Orban maintains such close relations with Russia that it makes sense that hospitals start to look more like Russian ones. People literally vote for this shit, it’s sad.

[u/Ok_Mode_7654]

Saddam Hussein hiding is on the 3rd picture

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Ok_Mode_7654]

Entrance hidden by bricks and rubble

[u/utsuriga]

Remember, this is the country that Trump voters and sympathizers think of as Paradise on Earth. The country whose leader keeps brainwashing his voters about how "the west" is running headfirst into its downfall. The country whose leader keeps lecturing the EU about "competitive edge"... yeah...

[u/WillToLive_ → u/[deleted]]

Gyomorgörcs kapott el a folyosón ahogy sétáltam, arra gondoltam hogy mi lenne velem ha kórházba kerülnék, vagy valamelyik közeli szerettem mellett kéne virrasztanom... Vagy ha arra gondoltam mi lesz még tíz év múlva, ha ebben a fenntarthatatlan irányban haladnak a dolgok, mi marad? Minden ide köt ehhez az országhoz, a teljes életem, az összes ember akit ismerek, de közben mindig belém-belém hasít a gondolat hogy mi lesz a következő húzásuk, meddig bírom itt

[u/TheTealMafia → u/WillToLive_]

testvérem jött haza külföldről, poénkodtam vele hogy jobb ha nem megy át illegálisan kereszteződésen, mert ha elütik, az utas-biztosítás sem menti majd meg a kórházi fertőzéstől.

[u/sunbejus → u/WillToLive_]

OP: ha még mindig limbóban vagy. Egyetlen tanácsot adnék, ismeretlenül de a szívemből: addig menj és próbálj meg egy EU-s országban letelepedni és második állampolgárságot szerezni, amíg az ajtó nem záródik be. Minden kezdet nehéz, de bírni kell egy jobb jövőért. Vármegyék után lassan újra divatba kerül a röghöz kötöttség.

[u/[deleted]]

thats where horrofilms be made lol

[u/SpiritMainKiller]

Wait until you see the Romanian ones...

[u/Illustrious_Gap7309]

This is thanks to the dictator Viktor Orban

[u/GregWhite1974]

Ki itt belépsz, hagyj fel minden reménnyel.

[u/julhodez]

It also could be Portugal or Greece

[u/Sagaincolours]

Now there, stop with the complaining. It is necessary. How else are the traitors in office going to afford to stuff their pockets. Everyone must sacrifice for the common good.

/s in case it wasn't glaringly obvious

[u/Teacher2teens]

But orbans palace is beautiful!

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Teacher2teens]

If it was beautiful at least... No he didn't build a palace, he built a ranch with allegedly a bunker+underground parking, entire blocks of guest houses, animals, ect, a literal farm just gaudy.

They have no class and they are proud of that fact, proud proles all of them at heart

[u/sisco98]

Silent Hill vibes

[u/AriaSanchez_only]

They are facilities very similar to hospitals in Mexico, first world, the rulers say.

[u/KenyerTM_original]

Here you don't pray for the doctor not to mess up your surgery, you pray so that the ceiling won't fall on you during the surgery...

[u/yeeyeedong9159]

W healthcare, hope Péter manages to fix this

[u/WillToLive_ → u/yeeyeedong9159]

I have a cautious mild optimism about the guy. He won't win but at least the old opposition is destroyed, and some limited challenge will be leveled against the system, hopefully fidesz finally loses their supermajority.

[u/ThisTheRealLife]

After seeing the 25 and 30 euro dorm rooms my first thought seeing this was: title it 250 Euro knee surgery and post it in some American sub, then wait for the medical tourists come in droves.

[u/Ill-Maximum9467]

Victor All-Bran

[u/[deleted]]

Yikes. Note to self do not go to the hospital in Hungary. It’s such a beautiful country how can this be!?

[u/Five__Stars]

At least it is clean

[u/Thaimaannnorppa]

What is it with ex-soviet countries and the depressing bluegreen paint everywhere? Was it especially cheap to produce? Was it Lenin's favourite color?

I call this color communist turqoise

[u/Necessary_Apple_5567 → u/Thaimaannnorppa]

Good question. It is not only paint available but definitely it was used everywhere including class rooms. Also pattern is tge same - hslf of the wall painted only

[u/SpidermanBread]

Aaah yes, Orban's superior state.

[u/HurryOk5256]

Looks very similar to a hospital I went to in Romania, I was there off Roading and a young rider who was with the a group of Swedish guys I knew broke his pelvis. People were smoking in the hospital, that was wild. Anyway, we got him out of there and had him taken to a private hospital, which was much more modern than what you would expect, and no one was smoking lol. On a sidenote, he had to wait for a specialized Lufthansa plane to fly home, poor kid had to stay in Romania for almost a week until they could get him home. It was Cluj Napoca FYI.

[u/Belgian_femboy_furry]

It looks like the hospital in rock museum in Budapest 😭 except that's a museum and this isn't

[u/imtired-boss]

The surgery room has a sign that says "No entry!".

So how do they do surgeries if they aren't allowed to get in?

[u/QueasyTeacher0]

You'd feel at home in in a lot of our rural hospitals in the South :)

[u/dat_9600gt_user]

I could also post my country's public hospitals. Really, underinvestment seems to be every nation's plague.

[u/Lennyleonard_]

Ah just like mother Russia.

[u/jschundpeter]

First we must win the battle against the woke, LGBTQ and Soros. Only then we can tackle the health system.

[u/cactuscore]

And Orban still gets 80% or something lol. Wake up Hungarians.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/cactuscore]

Not a chance. Our only hope for salvation is Orbán's eventual passing away, at least in my opinion. Too many old, uneducated, propagandized rural people out there who fall for this crap. Also, minority votes are literally bought with a couple sacks of potatoes per family, or the threat of taking away government jobs

[u/NoMansCat]

Looks old but clean. It reminds me of some of the hospitals I worked at when I was a student. What matters is the quality of the provided healthcare and I do prefer good care in an old looking hospital than bad one in a posh clinic.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/NoMansCat]

Staff is good, they're working hard to make the best of a bad situation. But it's not just the building. Disinfectant use is low in Hungary, hospital infections are among the highest in the EU. There are cases where patients have to buy their own bandages, gloves etc for the nurses. Also, no AC in the summer, so no long surgeries, no running hot water in the winter in some places. There is a high profile case when the ceiling of an operating theater collapsed mid-operation, after which it was found out that doves nested in the crawlspace, their droppings, dead bird carcasses etc fell on the patient and doctors mid urological surgery (!) So, no, not just the walls. Walls are a canary in the coalmine but there are structural issues that run deeper

[u/[deleted]]

A similar look in some of the hospitals in the neighborhood in Czechia.

But as one of the doctors said, it's not walls what heal, it's doctors and their tools. So if the budget is limited, for sure it's better to invest it into the staff salaries, their education, and buying medical equipment, not in renovation of the hallways.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/[deleted]]

Sadly, we lack the funds in that regard as well. Hungarian hospitals use close to the least amount of disinfectant in Europe, there is no toilet paper, soap, etc. Also in some cases patients have to bring in their own bandages and other healthcare related items

[u/Organic-Wrongdoer422]

Yes that's less European thing. And Hungary is not surprising.

[u/harap_alb__]

welcome to the poor side, neighbor

[u/Nonions]

This is not far removed from the UK operating room I went into when my wife had a C-section. There were holes in the plaster of the walls, cracked tiles, the wooden doors needed a repaint.

It was clean but it felt like stepping back to eastern Europe pre-1989.

[u/dobos_ceg]

You should live here to believe this.

[u/sky1Army]

In the third pickture, I see saddam hussein.

[u/Overall-Ad-9155]

the orban medical centre?

[u/Professional_North96]

If you didn’t say Hungarian I would’ve thought definitely Serbia 🥲😂

[u/Rufuske]

Op found a time machine and transported to Poland ca 1985. I wonder what all the countries mentioned below his post have in common.

[u/AdeptRate]

I vividly remember seeing a roach scurrying down the waiting hall during one trip to the ER. Felt surreal.

Someone I knew fell on a spike and had to get sutures during vacation. The room was dimly lit and it felt surreal, like an old horror movie.

[u/Ok-Resource-3232]

Great place to film some hospital scenes in the year 1950.

[u/sorE_doG]

I’ve seen a lot worse. Not in Europe though.

[u/ipeih]

Damn, maybe they should advertise it as « living historical museum of a 20th century communist hospital », open it to tourists and divert the money to build better villas so Budapest can get more AirBnBs /s

[u/DesignerVillage5925]

Not surprised cause they love ruzzian style

[u/silverbulletsam]

Love that shade of hospital green - you see it heaps in hospitals in New Zealand.

[u/s8018572]

Outlast moment:

[u/MarkMew]

And it isn't like a one time thing either

[u/namstel]

EU money well spent, I see.

[u/LordLacko]

Hail Patriots of Europe and Orban right?

It was one of the reason why he was asked in the EP: where is our money Mr Orban?

Well your money my fellow European friends is in Orban friend’s private zoo with zebras in it, in castles “owned” by our minister of transport etc…

[u/EGORKA7136]

Ah yes, standart Russian outback hospital

[u/[deleted]]

Orban said it is Soros’ an the EUs fault!

[u/Commercial-Bag3769]

Yea, Slovakia has shitty hospitals

[u/ttwixx]

It’s sad and all but I’m not gonna lie I enjoy waiting in these places. There’s a very strong vibe to it.

[u/GroundhogDay8001]

Reasons why I’ll never move back. and ashamed to answer when I’m asked: “so where are you from?”

[u/natalieieie]

The same, if not worse, is in Serbia. Probably the saddest parts of the hospitals are reserved for "welcoming" and caring for pregnant women. I would assume the interior is on par with some jails. It is all quite inhumane.

[u/Kaleb_belak]

it`s like from my soviet childhood.

[u/Kurvaflowers69420]

Looks better than bulgarian hospitals

[u/[deleted]]

Never complaining about ireland again.

[u/Bergwookie]

Let me guess: a brand new sign on the entrance: " modernised with founds from the development programme "modern care" of the EU"(or the like)?

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Bergwookie]

Yes there are a few signs like that Most of it probably went to equipment, other wards, and the pockets of certain well connected individuals

[u/Bergwookie → u/WillToLive_]

Yeah, the brand new S-Klasse of the hospital's director won't come from band-aids alone ;-)

Sorry, don't want to hurt you or your country, but from an EU perspective it might be better to throw Hungary out (not only out of financial and loyalty reasons, but more as a pedagogic instrument to show the people, that voting for such a corrupt Mafia like leading elite has to have consequences. Because at the moment, they're not paying their punishment but with no real consequences, they still can build "treetop walks" on a plain field, gild their pockets and the people vote for them nonetheless.

I understand that your media situation in Hungary is difficult, it's just a language so unique, that there's not much market for outside media, the literacy in foreign languages is thin, therefore a good portion of the people have no access to non-orban-media. EU should fund independent media in the Hungarian language.

So sad to see such a proud and once mighty nation is now the pet Chihuahua of the Russians and China. It once was one of the strongest economies in the eastern block, but hasn't regained even that niveau. The qualified youth left to either the cities (if you count Buda and Pest as their own;-) )or other countries.

Very similar to the former GDR, although there you have economic growth since about ten years, especially in the areas where in communist times high tech was developed and produced, but there are still regions that'll die out in one generation, when the olds are gone.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Bergwookie]

I think there should be sanctions, harsh treatment from the EU, complete freeze of funds, lock on the elite's foreign bank accounts, and also our voting and veto rights should be taken away. But also, not thrown out of the EU per say, more like put on hold until we get our shit together. There should be an easy way back and it should be made abundantly clear to the hungarian people what they need to do to get back

[u/Bergwookie → u/WillToLive_]

Yeah, not an "out and stay out" but a "do this the EU way and everything is good again"strategy.

[u/davidfliesplanes]

Americans avoid hospitals to avoid being broke, Balkan people avoid hospitals so that they don't get even more sick

[u/EntertainmentLeft882]

Honestly seen worse in Germany.

[u/oktaS0]

That's not bad compared to Balkan state hospitals...

[u/[deleted]]

Its true that in east eu healthcare is free, but the quality is also sometimes REALLY bad. A lot of people died due to there are big waitings in Hospitals, for instance waiting for cancer threatment can be even 2 months. Many people died due to this. Even throw healthcare is free, its have its flaut

[u/El_Cicone]

Sweet eastern european hospitals from Hungary to Russia and all the way to Greece!

[u/[deleted]]

Meh, any eastern european country has the same hospitals, not a big deal. Usually they were built by some empire 100 years ago and not changed much since, only upgraded.

[u/FriuKi]

Almost like in Orban's dream country... ruSSia

[u/roumio]

Everyone studies philosophy nowadays and philosophy does not fix that.

[u/taeraeyttaejae]

Looks like an abandoned hospital in Finland.

[u/NachuYamatu]

I've seen worse. They have to learn from Slovakia.

[u/arsenal7777]

Could be any Italian hospital too. Even in the north.

[u/filidendron]

Are you sure these pictures are new? They give me GDR hospital in the 1980's vibes.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/filidendron]

They are the same picture

[u/filidendron → u/WillToLive_]

Scary, they even have the same colors and tiles. Only the bin isn't authentic.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/filidendron]

They were constructed at roughly the same time, by roughly the same type of regimes so the similarities aren't surprising. The difference is, they actually built and renovated stuff since then in Germany, unlike here

[u/filidendron → u/WillToLive_]

Hope Hungary gets a chance to recover soon without Orbán.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/filidendron]

Honestly our only way I see out of this is by him passing away at some point. Even then, generations grew up with subpar education, the brightest moved away, and the masses are brainwashed, so I'm not sure what then, but honestly that's the only sure way anything will change here.

[u/torsofucker]

voted more for orban! few years and Hungary leave NATO and EU

[u/WillToLive_ → u/torsofucker]

That's what I'm afraid of. If we leave either I leave too, and a lot of young people feel the same way. I would rather leave a toxic relationship with my country than end up in a potentially actually life threatening situation, under an actual dictatorial regime

[u/sirabuzgaygar]

very hospital looking hospital

[u/PanglossianMessiah]

Looks better than most German schools...

[u/WillToLive_ → u/PanglossianMessiah]

You should see our schools mate...

[u/coffeescious]

I've seen worse in Moldova

[u/WillToLive_ → u/coffeescious]

That I'm not surprised by at all... Still, a disgrace either way.

[u/7_11_Nation_Army]

Bulgarian flag! 💪

[u/fsedlak]

"Free healthcare."

[u/NectarineNo2982]

Better than some London hospitals to be fair

[u/MR3cho]

Looks like the future in the US

[u/WillToLive_ → u/MR3cho]

Nahw, in the US the hospitals are top notch, 40-50 years ahead of this. It's whether you can afford a visit or not, that's the big question over there

[u/Mysterious_End_2462]

And so what now? You found a dented wall in a random hospital dude?

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Mysterious_End_2462]

Also 20-30 people tended to by a single nurse, ancient equipment, despair, etc Don't pretend things are fine here they aren't And we had a good shot at becoming a better nation that was majorly wasted

[u/Mysterious_End_2462 → u/WillToLive_]

I start to like of you bring up actual facts and not just 3 pictures of selected negative propaganda / emotional misleading.

[u/WillToLive_ → u/Mysterious_End_2462]

It's not so easy to point at actual data points when they do their best to keep the really bad stuff under the wraps. I shared my experiences, your mileage may vary of course, this is a municipal hospital, in a regional center or the capital is it's of course better. If you are willing to entertain investigative journalists and not brand them as straight up propaganda, I have a line of articles that go in depth on this topic. No simple data points as again they had to literally sue the hungarian state to get any info at all.

https://www.direkt36.hu/category/korhazi-fertozesek/