r/europe Mar 16 '25

Data Guess who claims all the credits

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u/SebVettelstappen Mar 16 '25

Europe: You Americans are all fat morons who are good for nothing

Also Europeans: Why wont you help us? Help Ukraine??!!??

Then they wonder why the Average American (Who already doesnt really care about Ukraine) doesnt care for sending aid overseas.

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u/EIIander Mar 16 '25

Respectfully, as an American, yes. This is how I feel at least. I cannot claim to know how most feel but to me, it seems like when we help Europe hates us, when we don’t Europe hates us, everything is always how horrible and terrible we are. Shoot, at this point even a lot of Americans say well Europe hates us so we must be awful. To be fair, the US does do awful stuff and I wish we were still helping Ukraine like we were.

But there is a part of me that goes well…. You hate us, we suck, you don’t need us, you wish we’d leave…. Then we do and it’s even more of the same. Geopolitics the US should stand by the treaty and support Ukraine, average American is sick of being told we are awful no matter what we do.

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u/ReadyThor Malta Mar 16 '25

average American is sick of being told we are awful no matter what we do.

It's not the what. It's the why, the when, and the how.

Last war the US fought without allies was its own Civil War and from the looks of it the win was only on paper as the enemy within still kept going on at it to this day, with its flag, rhetoric, and celebration of its history in full display even.

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u/LFSubF Mar 16 '25

as opposed to what? the enemy within being dead? you're telling me anyone in the south's side of the civil war and all their descendants up until today would be better off dead or gone some other way because to you, the "win was only on paper". you realize the implication of that statement right? you're implying that half the US population then and they're descendants, relatives, and acquaintances who subscribed to the confederacy would have to be dead or not in the country anymore for it to be called a victory for the union.

that is an INSANE implication to casually make. wtf

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u/ReadyThor Malta Mar 16 '25 edited Mar 16 '25

as opposed to what? the enemy within being dead?

Is that the only option you could come up with? Dead?

Public glorification of Confederate flags, insignia, clothing, slogans, monuments, or historical artifacts should have been considered a criminal offense as soon as the war was 'over' with violators facing penalties including fines and imprisonment. This is much the same as what they have in Germany with regards to Nazis.

you're telling me ...

I'm not telling you anything, you are the one making things up. Go take your strawman arguments elsewhere or better still keep them to yourself.

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u/Rakeial17 Mar 16 '25

Touch grass lil bro

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u/ReadyThor Malta Mar 17 '25

Tear gas big bro