r/europe May 20 '25

Map Next 100 years - any monarchies left in Europe? What do you think?

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u/Independent_Page_220 May 20 '25

Don’t know in 100 years but I can tell that, in 2023, none of the monarchies of that map is a dictatorship or authoritarian regime.

Can’t say the same about the republics.

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u/Mynteblomst May 20 '25

So to inherited positions is a good thing?

Its only one country in Europe which is 100 % democratic, and thats Switzerland. They have elected head of state

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u/Independent_Page_220 May 20 '25

Why do you mean “100% democratic”? I suppose that you know that democracy is more than just holding elections. We are talking of right to vote, but also guarantees of human rights and liberties.

If you check any democracy index of Europe you’ll find that all monarchies in Europe but one are full democracies. Belgium is considered a flawed democracy, like France, USA or Italy. And yes, Switzerland is a full democracy too.

The highest score in these democracy index? Kingdom of Norway.

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u/Mynteblomst May 20 '25

Do you think citizens of Switzerland do not have the right to vote, no guarantees of human rights and liberties??

The index is based on a survey with an assessment of 60 different statements. SURVEY!

The Marius case has showed us that the royal family of Norway has power. Not particularly democratic.

https://fn.no/Statistikk/demokratiindeksen?country=42264

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u/Independent_Page_220 May 20 '25

Of course the Swiss can vote and have human rights! Who says otherwise? I think you just jumped right in and didn't bother to read calmly beforehand. I quote: Switzerland is a full democracy.

But that doesn't invalidate what I said. Democracy is not just about voting.

And of course, what I said at the beginning remains rigorously true: none of the monarchies that remain in Europe in 2023 are authoritarian regimes, quite the contrary. The republican part of the map cannot say the same.

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u/Mynteblomst May 20 '25

You have monarchies outside Europe like Brunei, Eswatini, Oman, Saudi Arabia, and the individual emirates composing the United Arab Emirates which are absolute.

In Europe: Vatican city. Lichtenstein, Luxembourg and Monaco are not without power, or? So no garantee.

Some of the best democracies in the world belongs to the repupublican part of Europe

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u/Pepsisinabox May 20 '25

Norways case we have a group of people who are highly competent and specialized diplomats and in case of war: military commanders. Thats pretty much their job. The royal residenses also serve for tourists and is a net gain on finances. Dont realy have a problem with it, as in most if not all matters of heads of state, they are entirely symbolic, and our govt is democratic and elected.

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u/Mynteblomst May 20 '25

This is not true. When became Mette, friend of Epstein competent? And her son and Mettes role relatet to when he was arrested? Norway next queen… Military commanders? Are you kidding now? Thats not their job.

The only Royal residence open for public is the castle, and only some weeks during the summertime. The Marius case shows the familys real power. How afraid people was for them. Even the police as Marius bugged.

Even Martha Louise was saved by the kings power once. I’m thinking of the trial in UK were she was summoned

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u/Pepsisinabox May 20 '25

None of them are in the line for the throne. Kronprins Haakon and Princess Ingrid are the ones you should look at. As for tourism, the castle as well as Akershus Festning are popular enough. King Harald is doing a fantastic job as well. None of the things you speak of are Monarchy related, its power related, and as such youll have the sane damn thing with a president.

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u/Mynteblomst May 20 '25

Martha number four to the throne. Just mention it.

I’m looking for Haakon and I see a businessman who is not paying tax even from his firm. Strange. He is also a more political figure than his father.

We will see when it comes to Ingrid.

Its easy for king Harold to do the «job» he has nearly 200 employees. Even people employed to write his speeches. Life is easy then :-)