r/europe Jun 01 '25

Data Polish Presidential Elections exit poll

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u/Kubula Jun 01 '25

That is a record attendance for presidential elections in Polish history

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u/dumnezero Earth Jun 01 '25

That's usually a sign that the far right loses.

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u/Alakagom Jun 01 '25

Weird comment when the difference is 0.6%, even less in the second exit poll.

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u/Technical-Incident80 Jun 01 '25

Higher turnout is usually good for the candidate that isn't anti establishment.

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u/cooleslaw01 Jun 01 '25

actually it's usually beneficial for the more moderate candidate in my experience. which is to say that a lower turnout might've cost him the election

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u/michalsqi Poland Jun 01 '25

But it is so f…ing close. I’m nervous.

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u/wojtulace Jun 02 '25

Yeah, same. Hopefully Trzaskowsky wins.

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u/A-6_Intr-uwu-der Estonia Jun 01 '25

Won‘t be for long. We are nearing the end of the stage where the far right is half the population.

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u/dumnezero Earth Jun 01 '25

Better stock up on "leopards ate my face" stickers in that case.

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u/TuxSH France Jun 01 '25

Not necessarily, in the 2024 EU elections, the French far-right did their highest score despite turnout being the highest since 1999.

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force Jun 01 '25

Wasn’t the case in the U.S. 2024 was the second highest turnout ever and Trump won

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u/Troll_Enthusiast Jun 01 '25

Less people voted compared to 2020

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u/StarGamerPT Jun 02 '25

Imma go ahead and say you jynxed it

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u/dumnezero Earth Jun 02 '25

I did say "usually".

Let the learning begin...

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 01 '25

nawrocki is not far right

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u/fallingbutslowly Jun 01 '25

he most certainly is lmao, what are you talkin about

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 01 '25

in what way

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u/ChankaTheOne Jun 01 '25

Might be that he's a candidate supported by PiS, you know a nationalist conservative party

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 01 '25

It’s the standard centrist-right-wing-ish party that was in power for a long time. Under them we gave aid to ukraine and imported over 2m from there. If conservatism is far right for you then you live in an echo chamber lmao

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u/ChankaTheOne Jun 01 '25

I mean whatever way it translates itself in reality, I looked up PiS and wikipedia does indicate me it still lands in the right to far right wing with their positionning and ideologies. Quite frankly I have no idea but whatever happens either way i'd wish for anything else at least a little more liberal than conservatism for a country like Poland, as long as they don't fall in the shit-autocracy that are conservative parties these days that rule countries

And like please for the love of god stop the echo chamber bullshit, theres no living unbiased, "calling an echo chamber out" is perpetuating the echo chamber you've put yourself in. This doesn't mean jackshit, we're all in the confirmation bias of our own opinions are we not? And might I add, conservatism IS a feature more prominent in right/far right ideologies, that's the whole point

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 01 '25

lost me at „i looked up on wikipedia” 🥀🥀

Yes there’s no unbiased worldview, but some worldviews are more biased than others

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u/ChankaTheOne Jun 01 '25 edited Jun 01 '25

Acting like wikipedia is a contested sensible media on a fucking political party, theres sources you can look at at the bottom of the page you know? you want more ?

" In office from 2015 to 2023, PiS promoted traditional conservative positions on social and family issues. It implemented a near total ban on abortion and employed anti-LGBT+ rhetoric" https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9868/

"The far-right Law and Justice party came to power in 2015, at the height of Europe’s migrant crisis, after running a campaign that inspired choruses of “Poland for Poles.” With national elections due in October, the governing party is once again promoting its vision of “Poland First.”" https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/26/world/europe/immigration-poland-ukraine-christian.html

"Sunday’s outcome means either a clean break with Poland’s past as one of the bad boys of the EU, or a return to a more turbulent relationship with Brussels. When PiS was in power from 2015 to 2023, Warsaw tangled with the EU over its tough abortion laws, freedom of speech, clampdowns on LGBTQ+ rights, corruption, and backsliding on the rule of law." https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-election-rule-of-law-rafal-trzaskowski-karol-nawrocki-donald-tusk-andrzej-duda/

Is that enough? Whatever you big political daddy is telling you to ingurgitate, its biased and "echo chambered" mind you

"Some world views are more biased than others" the grass is green, you're repeating my words and I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about with these buzz words bro

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 02 '25

Your sources are first paragraphs of mainstream media articles

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u/calibrono Pomerania (Poland) Jun 01 '25

Far enough. His "social" policies aren't socialistic, just populist.

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u/dumnezero Earth Jun 01 '25

Populism without the socialism is exactly far right grifter speech.

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 01 '25

populism is not far right (by itself atleast), and I have no idea what social policies have to do with this

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u/Dependent_Tackle378 Jun 01 '25

I'd say PiS isn't far right, but Nawrocki is.

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 01 '25

He’s their candidate

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u/sbabb1 Jun 01 '25

PiS is not the furthest right anymore, but closer too far right than anything else really, so its not wrong to call them that.

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u/AltrntivInDoomWorld Jun 01 '25

Show me a hooligan that isn't far right

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u/ventingpurposes Jun 01 '25

This time both far-right nutjobs game their support to PiS candidate, and they had over 50% of votes in 1st turn. So high turnout might be a good thing for far right.

Also, older folk tend to vote for PiS, and their turnout during first turn was quite low, so it might end up helping PiS too.

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u/dumnezero Earth Jun 07 '25

Post this with your big boy account.

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u/noeltlalka Jun 10 '25

This is my main account, I just happen to have a life outside Reddit and social media so I don't sit all day getting a boner about politics

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u/dumnezero Earth Jun 10 '25

Maybe don't look for them online? Seems like you're looking in the wrong places.