r/europe Jun 01 '25

Data Polish Presidential Elections exit poll

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u/sebixi Jun 01 '25

They tried this in Romania too, but the results were way too obvious here to try to pull off any of that shit. My thoughts are with my polish brothers and sisters tonight <3

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u/Nerioner The Netherlands Jun 01 '25

Well now real job only begins in Romania and Poland. Because if we do nothing, in next elections it is a clean sweep for far right.

We need to counterbalance them at the very least and push back ideally

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u/Jackmerious Jun 01 '25

That’s why they need to get into office and implement some real reforms that actually matter to people. Things that will help them. Don’t waste time on nonsense. Do so much good that it won’t matter what the Fascists say.

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u/ieatcavemen United Kingdom Jun 01 '25

How did that work out for Biden? Good governance and actions to benefit the populace have no effect on a radicalised population that is inoculated from hearing any positive news about anyone who isn't a fascist.

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u/Jackmerious Jun 01 '25

I think the problem with what happened over here was that the positive economic improvements made during his administration were overshadowed by reports of his mental fitness, and it wasn’t helped by the media, or by our absolutely lazy ass voting populace who stayed home because “both sides are the same!” I’m honestly not sure how the Polish or Romanian media handle fascist politicians there.

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u/sudoku7 Jun 02 '25

Lots of contributors and it was close in the end, so it is absolutely possible that any one little thing could cause a significant change.

With that out of the way, it felt closer to the bits with Bush v Clinton. The economy wasn't really that bad relative to the prevailing circumstance, yet people still felt economic pain, so they voted for a change. Folks experiencing economic hardships (real or perceived) aren't won over by telling them that they are actually doing well.

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u/DonMikoDe_LaMaukando Jun 01 '25

The number of deporations rose by 90% in 2024 under Biden, thats not leaving the border open.

The Republicans also killed his bill for better border control.

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u/martyqscriblerus Jun 01 '25

Good governance and actions to benefit the populace have no effect on a radicalised population that is inoculated from hearing any positive news about anyone who isn't a fascist.

He already said it, you don't need to show up to prove it

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u/FamilySpy Jun 01 '25

Biden was better than expected, but ultimately is one of the worst democratic presidents. And being mentally and potientially pysically unwell while not informing the public or even setting up a successor is not ok.

He barely won in 2020 against Trump, this should have been a slame dunk easy win, a ham sandwich could have won, it was clear early on his messaging at best was mediocore.

Immigration was a weakness as he continued trump era policy (seperating families etc), but was attacked by right for being weak on boarder, if no one likes ur position and its morally wrong maybe change it.

Good governance and decent marketing should work, Biden is not a counter-example.

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u/Mnemnosyne Jun 02 '25

Those are nice but not enough. Biden utterly failed at his most important task: making sure that anyone in government who did even the tiniest illegal thing was prosecuted to the maximum possible extent. And quickly (as in, trials resolved before the election).

Because as long as there's no consequences and the people doing shit aren't punished, they will do it again and again until they succeed by whatever means necessary. I hope Romanian and Polish leaders understand that and will act accordingly.

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u/SchighSchagh Romania Jun 02 '25

Biden forgot to actually explain to everyone everything he accomplished. And he was a centrist who didn't really accomplish enough to get anyone actually excited for him/Dem party.