r/europe Jun 01 '25

Data Polish Presidential Elections exit poll

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u/dumnezero Earth Jun 01 '25

That's usually a sign that the far right loses.

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 01 '25

nawrocki is not far right

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u/fallingbutslowly Jun 01 '25

he most certainly is lmao, what are you talkin about

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 01 '25

in what way

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u/ChankaTheOne Jun 01 '25

Might be that he's a candidate supported by PiS, you know a nationalist conservative party

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 01 '25

It’s the standard centrist-right-wing-ish party that was in power for a long time. Under them we gave aid to ukraine and imported over 2m from there. If conservatism is far right for you then you live in an echo chamber lmao

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u/ChankaTheOne Jun 01 '25

I mean whatever way it translates itself in reality, I looked up PiS and wikipedia does indicate me it still lands in the right to far right wing with their positionning and ideologies. Quite frankly I have no idea but whatever happens either way i'd wish for anything else at least a little more liberal than conservatism for a country like Poland, as long as they don't fall in the shit-autocracy that are conservative parties these days that rule countries

And like please for the love of god stop the echo chamber bullshit, theres no living unbiased, "calling an echo chamber out" is perpetuating the echo chamber you've put yourself in. This doesn't mean jackshit, we're all in the confirmation bias of our own opinions are we not? And might I add, conservatism IS a feature more prominent in right/far right ideologies, that's the whole point

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 01 '25

lost me at „i looked up on wikipedia” 🥀🥀

Yes there’s no unbiased worldview, but some worldviews are more biased than others

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u/ChankaTheOne Jun 01 '25 edited Jun 01 '25

Acting like wikipedia is a contested sensible media on a fucking political party, theres sources you can look at at the bottom of the page you know? you want more ?

" In office from 2015 to 2023, PiS promoted traditional conservative positions on social and family issues. It implemented a near total ban on abortion and employed anti-LGBT+ rhetoric" https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9868/

"The far-right Law and Justice party came to power in 2015, at the height of Europe’s migrant crisis, after running a campaign that inspired choruses of “Poland for Poles.” With national elections due in October, the governing party is once again promoting its vision of “Poland First.”" https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/26/world/europe/immigration-poland-ukraine-christian.html

"Sunday’s outcome means either a clean break with Poland’s past as one of the bad boys of the EU, or a return to a more turbulent relationship with Brussels. When PiS was in power from 2015 to 2023, Warsaw tangled with the EU over its tough abortion laws, freedom of speech, clampdowns on LGBTQ+ rights, corruption, and backsliding on the rule of law." https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-election-rule-of-law-rafal-trzaskowski-karol-nawrocki-donald-tusk-andrzej-duda/

Is that enough? Whatever you big political daddy is telling you to ingurgitate, its biased and "echo chambered" mind you

"Some world views are more biased than others" the grass is green, you're repeating my words and I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about with these buzz words bro

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u/Financial_Plane5754 Jun 02 '25

Your sources are first paragraphs of mainstream media articles

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u/ChankaTheOne Jun 02 '25

Good thing you're quoting your political studies doctorate then, I'm simply not powerful enough it seems

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