r/europe • u/BkkGrl Ligurian in Zürich (💛🇺🇦💙) • 15d ago
мега нит 🇷🇸✊ Serbian protests Megathread
Serbia is currently experiencing protest and clashes against the government and its police forces.
This thread is to gather all the single pieces of media, pictures and videos.
However every main event and news in the form of link will deserve its own topic.
Thanks for your collaboration
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u/nrliii Serbia 13d ago
They are releasing inappropriate pictures of one student which she took when she was underage. Our own government is releasing revenge porn.
This student was beaten and was threatened to be raped by Marko Kričak commandant of JZO. They are now releasing her photos as a retaliation because she spoke up.
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u/the_lonely_creeper 13d ago
Revenge Child Porn.
Like, how low can you fall?
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u/UnPeuDAide 12d ago
It seems to me that it is just the kind of thing that can infuriate people even more without detering anyone...
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u/Excellent_Theory1602 13d ago
Wait what??
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u/No-Extension-4132 14d ago
Bus driver in charge of private bus company Jaćimović, has been arrested right after he promised to drive people free of charge to Valjevo, town which endured the harshest police and SNS violence since November aka the start of the protests. Tonight there will be a protest in Valjevo, their people and children were victims of barbaric police violence. Two cafes have been attacked by Vucic’s hooligans, where a 13 year old boy has been beaten up with his dad who owns the place. Arrested bus driver ; Cafe attack in Valjevo
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u/nrliii Serbia 13d ago
The flag of Vojislav Seseljs party was burned on tonights protest. For those who dont know who he is, he is the man that stands behind Great Serbia plan. Cant wait for him to take his steps into the ground.
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u/REGIS-5 13d ago
He's the man who made Serbia into one of the most hated nations in the world. The root of all evil that happened in the Balkans. The man who birthed Vucic.
Dude was going around villages and towns spreading hatred and lying to people that Croats and Bosnians are slaying children and eating them and that they must kill any non-Serbs. The guy who pushed the Serbian part of Yugoslavia towards aggressive pursuit of "the Great Serbia" as you mentioned, instead of diplomatically and peacefully separating.
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u/UkrainianKoala Ukraine 15d ago
I just want to say, I really hope our Serbian friends will succeed. The police violence is disgusting.
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u/pluto_ascendant 15d ago
And I hope that your country will see peace soon and end of aggression. And I hope our tyrant is down soon too.
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u/RadangPattaya 15d ago
They are fascists and will be dealt as such. We already made the mistake of letting the police get a get out of jail free card against milosevic, it will not happen again.
Stone, metal, or dirt. Their choice.
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u/Matematic4reddit 14d ago
If we could post videos and images here, I think people might get much more interested
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u/Didudidudadu737 Europe 14d ago
Serbian police is stopping cars with machine guns, on the entrance to the city of Valjevo and not allowing people to get in. There’s a big gathering and protest happening there also for police brutality over 16 yo whose life is still in danger.
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u/Matematic4reddit 12d ago
Testimony of an Italian IT worker who was randomly arrested during the protests by the Unit for the Security of Certain Individuals and Facilities. He says he witnessed members of that unit threatening a girl with rape. This all happened in the government building’s garage, where everyone was taken after being detained.
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u/grchina 15d ago
It's not just the police doing violence, our government also collected around 1k hardcore criminals that are actively attacking regular protesters and police is protecting them and guiding where to fight.They are armed and act without any interference from cops,they are called ćaci
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u/Ascetic_Dionysus Serbia 15d ago
Vučić is using the same tactics as Yanukovych, ćaci are our version of titushky during Euromaidan.
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u/longsgotschlongs 15d ago
I wonder what one common thing between Vucic, Yanukovych and Lukashenko (who also uses same tactics) might be
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u/grchina 15d ago
My dude we dont care about them we have our own problems
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u/Mou_aresei Serbia 15d ago
Actually it's all one and the same problem. Vučić is not doing anything new or original here, it's all from Putin's playbook. We would do well to learn from the experiences of other countries fighting against this same shit. We have a common enemy.
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u/No-Extension-4132 15d ago
Two “ex” ministers have been released from jail in the case of corruption about Novi Sad railway station collapse.
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u/Matematic4reddit 12d ago
An article in the German media about the girl we mentioned.
https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/europa/serbien-gewalt-vucic-100.html
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u/cnp_nick 14d ago
It’s not much (and it’s in English, so feel free to translate and edit as required) but here is an example letter/email that can be sent to an MEP or other European politician. The EU’s continued support of Vučić hurts the very people who are protesting. The least we can do is expect better of the EU and Europe as a whole.
*Dear [MEP Name],
I am writing to you to register my concerns regarding the recent developments in the Republic of Serbia. As you may be aware, for the past several months there have been ongoing protests in Serbia against government corruption, media suppression, and democratic erosion. These protests, which have been peaceful and in defence of fundamental European rights, have been met with violence and repression, raising serious concerns about the state of democracy and human rights in a nation that remains a candidate for EU membership.
There are upwards of two million people of Serbian heritage in Europe outside of the Republic of Serbia and many of these people maintain strong familial and cultural ties to Serbia and look on these developments with growing sadness and concern. Furthermore, many more people in Europe are becoming disturbed by the increasingly authoritarian conduct of the administration of President Aleksandar Vučić. The European Union has long stood as a defender of democratic values, civil liberties, and the rule of law, and I believe it is imperative that the EU remains united and steadfast in the safeguarding of these principles.
I therefore, as a citizen of Europe, implore you to bring this matter to light and to condemn the undemocratic actions of the Serbian government committed against its people. I urge you to advocate clear and public accountability regarding police conduct and media freedom in the Republic of Serbia and demand stronger democratic standards from the Serbian government. The people of Serbia deserve an open, fair, and democratic society and the EU has a responsibility to stand with them. I am sure you will agree that it is of the utmost importance that the policies of the EU reflect a serious desire to uphold our shared European values.
Thank you for your attention on this matter.
Yours sincerely, [Name] [Address] [Contact Details]*
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u/bockonbg 15d ago
Police Beat and Threaten Students with Sexual Assault in Government Garage (english subtitle)
Female student Nikolina Sinđelić was left without her phone last night after the protest. She says, members of the JZO (Unit for the Protection of Certain Persons and Objects), the police, and masked men led her into the government garage along with other students. There, she was beaten and threatened with sexual assault. For those interested, more information is available at this link:
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u/AccomplishedSun7001 13d ago
My 2cents. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_protests_in_Belgrade
A small lesson from history, as it is often said what about the war crimes in the 90s. You can guess that protesters did not win in 1991, and we all know what happened later.
In every nation there is a portion of deviant people. When good people lose, all these sadists in the police, hooligans, even mentally ill persons get their own playing ground.
The EU should sanction the high ranking politicians in Serbia responsible for the multiple crimes mentions in this thread. It is just ridiculous to let them sunbath their fat asses on Mykonos, Hvar, Ibiza. Freezing accounts, and assets such as apartments and yachts would be a 🍒🧁
Come on the EU! We all know you are also human beings - no one is perfect. Yes Tadic government was pretty stubborn, Tadic had that unpleasant meeting with Merkel in 2010. Still, you shouldn’t be salty about the man defending his country interests. Yes, he said no to selling the national electric supplier and the national telekom to German companies and he said no to recognizing Kosovo independence.
Back then, we had a minister of foreign affairs with BSc and MSc from Cambridge and Harvard. It should have been a fair match in regard to Kosovo independence, arguments from both sides where justice should have been paramount (no matter who wins).
But after the Tadic-Merkel meeting suddenly Vucic (and his SNS party) gets the support. He is the guy who was in the 90’s yelling “100 killed Muslims for one killed Serb”, yup that guy.
In the first half of 2010s, he changed his rhetorics and introduced GDP in everyday narrative and became more entrepreneurial than genocidal in his public speeches. People were tired after the global economic crisis, while he was promising prosperity. Also I think the EU representatives were convinced they are doing the right thing by openly congratulating the victory to SNS candidate 2 hours (or even more) before closing the elections. I don’t think it was rigged for SNS, but in such tight elections maybe such move could bring more votes for SNS and less for the other parties.
Now the EU should show some benevolence, he is great now for the EU: incapable minister of foreign affairs (and the majority of the government to be honest), Lithium deal, the purchase of expensive Rafales where the money for them is obtained though loans at French and other loaners.
The EU, take a look at your basic principles, nicely written agendas and other documents about the human rights, and do something. Otherwise, we are continuing dealing with this shit alone, just don’t act surprised when you see declining support for the EU in Serbia. You need two for tango.
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u/Im0tep95v2 13d ago
Enable sharing pics at least. Cops again pulled a gun on students. https://x.com/MilaNS__/status/1957013155244109918?t=Upk0E6waaUmGQIEKmjYhtQ&s=19
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u/Opismenjavanje2 15d ago
And in the meantime, the ruling party's 'journalist' hysterically laugs at teenagers being brutally beaten
https://www.reddit.com/r/serbia/s/DaaaOXH80z
This station is wildly watched among older people (65+)
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u/Im0tep95v2 13d ago
Eyewitness claims: Young men beaten so badly near Vuk's monument that they couldn't be put into the police van, so they called an ambulance https://nova.rs/vesti/hronika/ocevidac-tvrdi-mladici-toliko-pretuceni-kod-vukovog-spomenika-da-nisu-mogli-da-ih-ubace-u-maricu-vec-pozvali-hitnu/
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u/Didudidudadu737 Europe 12d ago
A student of Law school was detained because he had marbles, scuba diving mask, pesto sauce, spaghetti and chocolate milk in a shopping bag, and those items were confiscated by police upon release. They will try to bring charges against him long live the tyranny! /s
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u/Mou_aresei Serbia 15d ago
For anyone wondering how the EU might help in this situation - place vučić and his cronies under individual sanctions, freeze their assets abroad. And stop clapping him on the back. Being deeply concerned is not going to help, time to take some real action.
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u/jaaval Finland 15d ago
Frankly, I'm not sure if sanctions would help here. It would fuel the line of defense that the protest are somehow arranged from outside. The good thing about not reacting is that it's very clear this is a Serbian issue. And freezing foreign assets wouldn't immediately hurt them but might make them more desperate to stay in power instead of just fleeing somewhere else.
On the other hand, fuck them.
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u/Sad-Neighborhood878 14d ago edited 11d ago
They are planning to flee anyway. EU should step up and show some solidarity if they so badly want us to be a part of EU, unless....
Also, by freezing politician's assets, they would be sending a sign to the people of Serbia that the bastion of democracy (EU) defends and preserves democratic values and principles, often seen as a crucial stronghold against threats to democracy.
Vučić as a deranged dictator president, is that threat.
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u/Professional_Ant4133 Serbia 15d ago
Frankly, I'm not sure if sanctions would help here.
Lol, stopping EU funding would mean about 95% of Vucic's paramilitaries and cronies go broke in weeks, EU just sent 300m to pay them for a while.
Sanctions? That shit would fn criple him 100/100.
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u/Mou_aresei Serbia 15d ago
Honestly it wouldn't make much difference, they are already calling the protesters foreign agents, etc. Cutting off their supply would hit them where it hurts most. The criminals in power are now fighting for their lives as the whole system is set up like a pyramid. They need to keep paying their henchmen, otherwise the whole thing collapses.
Thank you for your support ♥️
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u/No-Extension-4132 15d ago
Bro his voters hate EU now and whenever (they’re literally dumb sheep mostly older, if you want to understand better just compare them with Trump derangement syndrome) it doesn’t matter what it does. Normal people (and especially young people) who are more left leaning are losing their respect for the EU and that is the core base for pro EU part of the population. I’m telling you if EU and you every day Europeans actually want us to join, then now is your time to show. You don’t have to do something big for now, just less money to Vucic and maybe next time less and then at some point no money. He only talks about money how Serbia was never better or richer than now, bro just don’t give him the whole amount of money until he makes peace.
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u/ocd_harli 15d ago
Is there a political leader that protesters are supporting? Like, what's the end goal, how does success look like?
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u/Zestyclose-Shower381 15d ago
We, the students made a list of 250 people for national elections, they would be in the parliament. We want early elections. Fair elections. Were preparing to have our people in every voting place there is to stop the election fraud.
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u/ocd_harli 15d ago
Ah ok, so the goal is to have early elections, that's great.
But can you expand on the 250 people? Is it about elections or to put those specific people in the parliament, or to only have those running?
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u/Zestyclose-Shower381 15d ago
Since english, obviously, isnt my frist language I might not be able to give the best explanation when it comes to certain things.
Since every single higher education institution was blocked by students for about 8 months now, during that time we planned protests and our strategy together, but in a decetralized way. Every department (faculty) of every university had its own "autonomy" to make decisions. Strictly students would gather and make decisions in a democratic way. Basically hold a discussion and make decisions by a simple majority vote.
The media (propaganda) in Serbia is EXTREMELY bad. I dont even know how I would explain it. The state controlled media (90% of total media) in Serbia has been discrediting and lying about every single opposition politician with the simple goal of making it impossible to create a strong opposition against SNS, the ruling party for the last 13 years.
Sadly, the propaganda is so bad and the opposition leaders lost the trust of the people. Justified or not, the students decided that the people on our list must not have major past political activity.
The list we made is still kept a secret. Every faculty voted their candidate based on the number of students that are in that faculty. Basically a few bigger faculties got to choose maybe 3 people at most, but evrey single faculty got to choose at least one candidate. The main criteria we looked for in a candidate is knowledge and experience in their respected fields.
You could probably guess that students from the medical school know very well who could be a good knowledgeable candidate that could bring good changes in the field of health in Serbia. Same goes for every profession and field.
The list would be candidated for the (hopefully) early parliamentary elections, where, if we got a majority of the vote, could start making changes and prosecuting corrupt politicians from the past 20 years.
Vucic, the main leader of the ruling party has accepted every call for early elections in the past because he knew he would win. A bit of propaganda, a bit of repression and propaganda against the opposition and he would have an easy win.
Now, we all know, and the studies of public opinion show that the student list woud get the majority vote, and now, hes delaying the elections as much as he can.
I definitely missed a lot of important information here but i hope this has cleared up some things. Feel free to ask anything :)
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u/Sad-Neighborhood878 14d ago edited 14d ago
The plan is to make a temporary government that will organize and initiate the templates and foundation of a healthy, proficiant and functioning state with institutions for one and for all . No need for a "father" figure, just capable experts who will make end to this worthless, corrupted spiral of governing the country with Cosa Nostra practices.
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u/markole Serbia 14d ago
This. Leader cult tradition needs to die out. No need for kings and marshals fellow Serbians, just competent civil servants and good institutions.
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u/Sad-Neighborhood878 14d ago edited 14d ago
Exactly. Done with all the sickos. Sick dictators belong in mental institutions where they will follow and obey the rules.
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u/nrliii Serbia 15d ago
Basically the list is not public yet so the people on the list are not threatened etc.. The goal is to put people in charge that deserve to be in charge (meritocracy) because the morons running the country now are just Vucičes puppets. He is surrounded by people with no actual knowledge and are in positions of power just to support the dictatorship. The 250 people are to fill the National Assembly so we can retake the country.
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u/No-Extension-4132 14d ago
They’re doing a lot of bad stuff to regular people who are against the current regime google Milomir Jacimovic or Dijana Hrka. There’s even more stories I know personally, that’s why there’s no political leaders yet and members of the student list’s party members is not still public. So EU wake the fuck up, this is definitely not a liberal democracy, at least then revoke our succession to the EU when there’s a fucking authoritarian in power or idk give him less or no money.
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u/Mou_aresei Serbia 15d ago
No political leader, that's the thing. This whole cycle of protests was started by student plenaries. The proposal right now is for the students to come out with a list of names of experts for each area of government, who have so far not been involved in any political organisations. This will happen when early elections are called, which is the main demand of the protests right now.
The reason why there is no single leader of the protests is because of the perception that many of our political problems come from the continual need for a saviour figure which quickly turns into authoritarianism. Another reason is that anyone who comes out as a political opposition figure is subjected to all sorts of threats and a media circus organised by the ruling party and their tabloids. That way anyone stepping forward as a possible contender in elections is quickly made unpalatable.
The end goal would be to defeat vučić in fair elections, to bring an end to his pyramid of crony criminals, to institute the rule of law and take to trial all those responsible for the collapse of the canopy that killed 16 people last year. And for many more crimes committed since the sns party came to power.
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u/Aleksiccc 15d ago
Guys, you really don't have an idea what we are dealing with,thanks for this megathread🙏
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15d ago
Our governments are cowardly, and our moral support as citizens means little in practice, but do not doubt for even one second that you're in the right side of history. One day we'll hold our hands together in solidarity.
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u/kakao_w_proszku Mazovia (Poland) 14d ago edited 14d ago
I hope I’m wrong, but given the state of the world and the intense geopolitical turmoils, the Serbians are going to be left alone in their struggle. Serbia is not a part of any established geopolitical bloc so neither the EU, nor the US, nor Russia nor China will lift a finger, they will just do „business as usual”, whatever that might mean.
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u/markole Serbia 14d ago
Yes and no. Once the criminals have been rooted out, we can finally properly continue reforms towards the EU that have been stopped when SNS seized the state. Obviously it's not only up to us to join the EU but reforms will mostly help.
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u/Halucinogenije 13d ago
People are left on their own. You have mainstream media and Vučić saying how this is a colored revolution sponsored by the West, while he himself is getting all that West money and support, which is just fucking ironic. So you have the East which condemns the protests, you have the ruling party that uses all its resources and western support (and taxpayers money) to bully and suppress and beat us, and then you have the west which is... Deeply concerned.
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u/No-Extension-4132 14d ago
That’s what I keep telling some of the Westerners on this sub. We are not little Russia or Europe or China, since the fall of the Yugoslavia we’ve been left alone. Our people have been used as cheap labour, land for mines and so on. We have no friends or cooperatives, we are being used by every fucking one. At least with Russia I see they clearly chose a side, China and EU are silent on this or play both sides, which to me is worse because as a person who WAS pro EU, they’re being hypocritical. At least with China and Russia I have no hopes, they’re open authoritarian regimes and (probably) support Vucic. EU is being very suspicious and that is no way to gain points with Serbs, we have trust issues with everyone. But alas as I said EU politicians are on their annual break in August, most likely sipping cocktails in Mykonos while writing “deeply concerned” tweets.
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u/Matematic4reddit 15d ago
Some of the usual tactic they use: criminals recently released from prison (f.e. a guy who killed a French football fan before some international football match was seen among them) attack ordinary people with fireworks and beat them with batons. When citizens try to defend themselves, respond, or even just ask the police for help - while the police stand by and watch - that is when the officers begin the kind of beatings you’ve seen in the videos, before arresting those same (often already injured) people.
With much of the prosecution and judiciary under the control of the same cartel, those arrested often remain in prison for some time afterward.
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u/MotanulScotishFold Romania 15d ago
This looks like very similar to Romania in 1990 'Mineriada' clash and to this day, the scum Iliescu died just a few days ago at age of 95 without a single day of jail.
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u/markole Serbia 15d ago
National oil company of Serbia at the end of the workday sent a memo to employees about a need to "prepare for working during a state of emergency".
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u/Eatsweden 14d ago
National oil company of Serbia
Why do you still call it that when only less than a third of it is owned by Serbia and the rest almost entirely by Russia?
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u/rakunaliccca 15d ago
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u/zsomboro Hungary 15d ago
Small issue is that r/Serbia is in Serbian... shocking I know. So that is also not a great source of information if you don't speak the language.
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u/rakunaliccca 15d ago
Everyone there speaks english, comments "translation please" and you'll get a Verbatim transcript.
But also images and videos are self explanatory.
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u/novacgal 15d ago
The Reddit app has a translation feature on iPhone- open the post you want to read and translate appears at the top. It will translate text, not images.
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u/_Daftest_ 15d ago
I'd like to take this opportunity to apologise.
There was a post the other day about coppers using ambulances and I was a bit glib - "so what?" and "why are protesters stopping vehicles anyway?".
I was unaware of the gravity of the situation and was simply thinking about protests in my country where they stopped ambulances.
I've educated myself on the situation in Serbia now and realise that my comments were inadvertently belittling a horrible situation.
I'm sorry about that. My sympathy is with the protesters.
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u/Kindly_Tone_4298 15d ago
If everyone was like you, the whole Europe would open their mind and understand what we're dealing with. Thank you for your comment and support!
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u/__Polarix__ Europe 15d ago
I really hope one day Serbia can get rid of Vucic
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u/Glittering_Bee9450 Rep. Srpska 15d ago
I hope it's soon because his thugs are beating our children dead on the street.
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u/Responsible-Car-Golf 15d ago
Is there way to temporarily turn on photo comments or that has to be chosen during forming of subreddit
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u/Matematic4reddit 15d ago
A lawyer from Valjevo (a town in Serbia where some of the most brutal police violence happened) posted this:
"Such excessive use of force in Valjevo has never been seen before. I can’t even begin to recount everything I went through last night and this morning at the police department and the emergency center.
It’s horrifying. I’m desperate. They were arresting and beating everyone in their path, even citizens and children who had nothing to do with the protest. They dragged some people out of a taxi and brutally beat them, others they beat and picked up from the street, they pulled minors out of a bakery and hit them, they stormed into a betting shop and beat and arrested everyone there, and they fired rubber bullets at the children near ‘The Student'.
They brutally beat a 15-year-old minor. While he was lying on the roadway, about ten police officers were beating him with batons and kicking him. In the footage, it is clearly visible that the individuals offered no resistance."
Thanks for the support.
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u/abandonedtulpa 15d ago
Proud of the Serbs for sticking to their cause, despite things looking grim. Hopefully they will manage to overthrow Vučić and serve as an example to the rest of us.
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u/markole Serbia 10d ago
The regime organized their own protests AGAINST the blockades and the student movement. The amount of people on those protests was not great. They are announcing new ones for Saturday. I guess the idea is to "steal" public places to extinguish the anti-corruption protests.
In other news, there are layoffs in the education sector, just before 1st of September and start of the school year. Cleanup of any non-loyalists? >:(
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u/No-Extension-4132 9d ago
They’re removing principals who supported strikes and replacing them with SNS party members probably…
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u/Matematic4reddit 8d ago
Novak Djokovic 'targeted by Serbian government and considers fleeing to Greece' - after national icon offered backing to student protests
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u/CreepyMcNightmare 7d ago
15 minute video that nicely depicts why this is happening, and the brief history of protest so far.
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10d ago
Showing nudes of an at the time underage girl on live tv... Wew lad every time I think our gov and their propaganda cant be worse, they do.
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u/Zebra_Delicious 10d ago
My heart breaks for the Serbian people. This is what happens when authoritarianism takes root – the silencing of voices, the brutal suppression of dissent. Solidarity with the protesters fighting for their freedom.
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u/Matematic4reddit 14d ago
So masked assailants (government-sponsored thugs) broke into the workshop of a family whose daughter is a university student. They destroyed the entire workspace and two cars parked there, attacking with crowbars in a brutal assault. The student’s father suffered a deep leg wound and a severe cut to his arm. Another man present was beaten so badly that his head was swollen and both eyes were completely shut; he was rushed to Belgrade for emergency treatment.
Around the same time, another attack targeted a local business owned by supporters of the ongoing protests. The shop was ransacked, and a female employee was gravely injured — her head was split open and her arm broken.
Both attacks were carried out simply because the victims support the protests.
Btw there are reports that the child (15 years old) who was brutally beaten yesterday has suffered kidney failure in both kidneys and is now fighting for their life.
Please spread this information, there are a lot of videos, photos about these incidents.
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u/Stverghame 🏹🐗 14d ago
The amount of clueless "know-it-all" westerners and Balts in here is hilarious.
Freedom to my people in Serbia, fuck both Russia and EU that support this government.
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u/Dirkdeking The Netherlands 14d ago
I know Europe is funding and doing deals with a lot of questionable leaders all over the world. Anyone who is surprised by that is just naive or disingenuous.
It is not realistic to expect zero sum mentalities from western governments. We have to work with what we have. And yes, that means you got to deal with leaders like Erdogan or MBS, a man who literally ordered a journalist to be chopped into pieces in an embassy. I don't think Vucic is worse than that.
The reality is harsh, but this is it. Maybe if the government escalates riot control violence to Assad levels of violence, you will see some stronger action. But that is about it I'm afraid.
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u/rampaparam Serbia 14d ago edited 14d ago
Literally every western government knows that Vucic's gangs used industrial meat grinder on their rivals. Psychopaths kept pictures and messages of their crimes and French police managed to infiltrate their communication (Sky phones). There are even NY times articles that specifically mention Vucic's connections to those gangs, which, among other things, were serving as his security guards.
edit: What the French did? They sent it all to Serbian police, which, as you can see, is Vucic's private army. I guess that's the protocol or something, but still... Btw, that was 4 years ago.
If you are interested, just google "belivuk, vucic".
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u/cosmic_joke420 14d ago
Why is it always the balts when there is Serbia talk??? Broooo
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u/Stverghame 🏹🐗 14d ago
I wonder the same. Small chihuahuas mentality I guess, they love to bark a lot in their safe spaces, which r/europe surely is.
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u/cosmic_joke420 14d ago
Yeah, fr. Like what did we ever do to them...🥀
We literelly have nothing in common.
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u/Stverghame 🏹🐗 14d ago
They are pathologically obsessed with Russia (they have their reasons), and turn to mania with no logical thinking as soon as someone doesn't hate Russia equally as they do.
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u/Fluffy-Republic8610 15d ago
"power doesn't panic" : Cassian andor, s1:e10.
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u/Sweet_Concept2211 14d ago edited 14d ago
"Star Wars isn't real life. In reality, sociopaths seek power all the damn time. And when it comes to toxic narcissists, even a small amount of power inflates egos and leads to forceful overreactions." - Alfred Nobel
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u/nrliii Serbia 15d ago
Here you can watch tonights happening live:
N1 https://n1info.rs/vesti/blog-najnovije-vesti-studenti-protesti-15-avgust/
SrbinInfo https://www.youtube.com/live/9MXP3eMFe1c?si=pl0IwgVeGh8h5EsK
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u/markole Serbia 15d ago
5th of October is on a Sunday this year. Pussylips can't catch a break. Good.
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u/Matematic4reddit 10d ago
Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić and Interior Minister Ivica Dačić (Slobodan Milošević’s successor in the Socialist Party of Serbia), with the backing of regime-controlled media, have launched a smear campaign against a journalist from one of the country’s few independent outlets. Despite receiving a flood of offensive, chauvinistic, and sexist messages, including threats against both her and her children, the police have, unsurprisingly, taken no action, while the campaign continues unabated.
https://www.cenzolovka.rs/pritisci-i-napadi/vucic-dacic-i-tabloidi-pokrenuli-kampanju-u-kojoj-je-preceno-deci-novinarke-tv-nova-sanje-ignjatovic-eker/
At the same time, ordinary citizens and students are being arrested and charged with terrorism or “violent overthrow of the constitutional order” merely for expressing a desire for political change.
This is, unfortunately, the usual way Vučić addresses journalists in Serbia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg98Zrfswps
“Do you have a son who is 16, 17, 18 years old? Would you like someone to bring your son back to you in a coffin?”
One of the ruling party’s slogans is “For our children” - they just forgot to add “in a coffin.”
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u/Matematic4reddit 15d ago
There are so many stories I don't know which ones to write, all of them horrible.
A female student's testimony:
"They slapped me, slammed my head against a wall, and threatened to strip and rape me in front of everyone so people could watch. They brutally beat the man standing next to me."
Btw she said who did this - the commander of Serbia’s Special Police Protection Unit (responsible for safeguarding politicians and sensitive government sites) - and there are videos of him being violent against protestors. Of course, not only will he not be held accountable for this, but he will probably even receive a medal. No, this is not a joke - our president, in fact the leader of this police-criminal cartel, gives medals to people like this.
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u/ReadToW Bucovina de Nord 🇷🇴(🐯)🇺🇦(🦈) 8d ago
An interesting article about protests by Timothy Snyder (published in May 2025)
https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-student-and-civic-protest-in
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u/trtmrtzivotnijesmrt Croatia 7d ago
Do Serbian students still go to uni, or are there blockades? Will they lose this academic year? I mean will that impact the economy since there won't be a whole generation of educated people coming to the market?
Just to clarify, I know that fighting for democracy and human rights is far more important than that, it just crossed my mind.
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u/haildystopia 7d ago edited 7d ago
Depends on the faculty. It's a mixed bag, some faculties are under "total blockades", some are under blockades while conducting exams, and some had a low amount of students residing in the buildings during the summer so the staff dispersed and kicked them out.
There are exams currently going on so the students most definitely won't lose the entire school year, but the preparation for those was very rushed and unorganized, they are pretty much left to their own to prepare and study for them.
And about the market - the government does not care. They don't give a shit about the market, they only keep it stable so that they have a semi-functional economy that allows them to steal, and even that's interrupted now. The market has been in a very bad state for several years now for the common folk either way. They also hate educated people, as they are the ones leading the self-organizing resistance movement. They hate Serbia in general, they don't want to be associated with it, they are disgusted by it and its people and they just see all of this as means to their selfish ends. They are only interested in stealing as much as possible until the people force them out of power, I suspect that most of these officials will be escaping to Dubai or some other place like that after this is all over where they can live out the rest of their shallow, pathetic, sycophantic lives with all the money they've stolen over the years and where they won't have to face the consequences over the terror they've inflicted on the people of Serbia the past 13 years.
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u/_snowdon Norway 15d ago
What's the vibe like in Serbia? Does this feel like a watershed moment or is this likely to dissipate? Not inviting pessimism, but curious for a lucid take.
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u/bockonbg 15d ago
Everyone knows that this is the end of their nazi rule. Change is just around the corner. It’s either us or them—that’s everyone’s stance.
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u/_snowdon Norway 15d ago
I hope you're right! I've always wanted to visit Serbia, I hope I can take a trip there when this is all over.
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u/bockonbg 15d ago
Thanks, don’t worry. When you visit, this will be a much nicer place, with overcrowded prisons and a peaceful life.
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u/DownvoteEvangelist 🇷🇸 Serbia 15d ago
We have been going at it for 8 months now, there will be no rest in Serbia until he is out..
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u/ReadToW Bucovina de Nord 🇷🇴(🐯)🇺🇦(🦈) 15d ago
Serbia’s student-led protesters wanted accountability. Now they’re calling for elections
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u/rampaparam Serbia 15d ago
Hah I posted the same interview 2 minutes after you. Btw, it's good, it explains very well the situation now.
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u/Nemanja_kun 15d ago
TLDR on the situation:
Since the Novi Sad railway station collapse on November 1, 2024, which killed 16 people, Serbia has been in almost constant protest. What began with students demanding justice has turned into a nationwide movement: students, workers, farmers, teachers, and everyday citizens filling the streets across the country.
People are standing up against a mafia-style system, where those in power use police brutality, paid thugs, and criminal gangs to keep control.
For nine months, despite repeated crackdowns, protesters remained peaceful. But last night’s events, riot police and regime-linked goons openly beating citizens, including children, torturing detainees, holding hostages, and even threatening women with gang rape, have made it clear to many that they can’t just stand by.
Will this lead to an open civil war? Probably not, because the people on the government’s side are mostly there for personal gain, they’re paid, connected, or part of the system, and the vast majority of the country is against them.
But with brutality now so organized and blatant, more Serbians feel they have no choice but to defend themselves.
The situation is extremely dangerous right now. We have no help from the European Union or anyone else, the people of Serbia are alone in this fight.
We deeply appreciate any support from regular people abroad, and if you want to see the reality on the ground, the police brutality, the coordinated attacks between riot police and hired thugs visit the r/serbia subreddit where it’s all being documented in real time.
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u/Matematic4reddit 15d ago
We hope it’s clear what we aim to achieve by spreading this information: for the European Union to stop funding a criminal regime that uses that money to violently suppress its own citizens.
Here, there is no independent media, no impartial judiciary, and no fair prosecution. Gradually, we are uncovering that, beyond the police, certain military units are also involved in these illegal actions.
We are capable of standing up for ourselves, but when European officials shake hands with our dictator, praise him, and call him “a factor of peace and stability in the Balkans,” all while sending him massive amounts of money, they make our struggle far harder. Their actions fuel anger, frustration, and deep skepticism towards the EU.
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u/kissie123 15d ago
Also also, while we are all actively seeking for SANCTIONS aggainst our own country, you guys managed to involve Russia into this?
That is a bit hypocritical while using US website with your IPhone while listening to some Billboard top100 of the week.
You know they are hosting Ptin right? Like the guy that is at war right now with another EU country.
I embrace the downvotes, like you do hypocrisy.
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u/Dependent-Sock3192 15d ago
Come on Serbian people we are behind you. Can’t wait for this putin puppet president to be thrown out of Serbia
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u/Sad-Neighborhood878 15d ago
Putin's puppet..... he isn't anybody's puppet... he is one corrupted, mentally unstable, narcissistic wannabe puppeteer master. Looks like your media is brainwashing you too, whichever country you're from.
Our president's wet dream is to wield the power Putin does. While both being despicable excuses for a human being as well as dictators and psychos, our president is such an opportunist who would sell his own mother for any meaningful profit. He's a cancer and we've just started removing him.
So far, he's been bedding politicians from the likes of Putin to Ursula von der Leyen (EU/ Germany), Xi Jinping (China), Donald Trump and so on.....
You people should stop spreading this lame narrative as it does not help the Serbian cause and even worse you are posting fake and misleading information.
Putin can go and F himself, as well as the rest of the mainstream political leaders.
We'll fight our own battles and war.
If you want to give your support then do it in a sensible, meaningful and respectful way.
Thank you.
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u/CmdrJemison Croatia 15d ago edited 15d ago
After losing several wars against other nations the serbian government decided to war on their own people.
Good luck people of Serbia. Wishing you all the best. May your protest against your government succeed. Pumpaj
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u/Forward-Dare-1913 15d ago
thank you for the support!
we live in a result of all the failed governments...
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u/CmdrJemison Croatia 15d ago edited 15d ago
I am totally aware about what happened in Novi Sad, so I i hope my comment didn't offended🕯️
There is probably a lot of generational trauma to be solved. I am also aware of politics and the outcome of the 90ies and the clans that are involved in government and the assassinations that happened.
People deserve to live free, no matter where they live without having to fear the government.
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u/Forward-Dare-1913 15d ago
your comment is in place, no worries.
average Joe in Serbia would only want peace, for us and all around us. as you can see what is happening now, average people in Serbia are again fighting on the streets against what government pulls from prisons and pays. the same thing happened in the 90s.
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u/navrtka 15d ago
prva stvar koja ti je pala na pamet u vezi protesta zbog smrti 16 ljudi i gazenja ljudi na ulici su ratovi 90ih, ozbiljne krivine brate, leci se
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u/OkTennis1543 Serbia 🇷🇴🇬🇷 15d ago
bukvalno neverovatna gimnastika i karmawhoring
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u/hodmezovasarhely1 14d ago
Serb here, fuck Putins Russia! The Russian people are also bugged down the same way we are. In an endless cycle of violence and election fraud
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14d ago
Trust me, no one likes Russia.
Most see it as lesser evil due to 90s.
You will also hear an argument "Who did Russia invase while US was sowing death across Middle East?"...
Of course with whole Ukraine deal argument shifted to "Well if US can act as world police so can Russia".... And these people are not majority. We dont go to East for better life and freedom, but to the West.
We'd be most happy.if EU actually stood by their democratic values and join them gladly if that were the case.
But as seen with how tbey keep financing Vucic it's just unacceptable at this point.
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u/Dirkdeking The Netherlands 14d ago
The global war on terror in the 2000's has really hurt the credibility of the collective west. Especially the Iraq invasion. I totally understand it if people think it's hypocritical to call out invasions with no UNSC support if you yourself just did that 2 decades prior.
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u/No-Extension-4132 15d ago
Bro I’ll gladly start simping for the EU once they do something that will benefit us. Thanks for the wishes, but once you learn what shit we went through, you’ll understand us better. We are not little Russia we are Serbia, and I hate that comparison in this sub. Also also, Vucic is not Serbia, we fighting on the streets are Serbia.
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u/bald_molfar Eastern Europe 15d ago
Buddy, I'm Ukrainian, we went (and are going currently) through enough shit too, there's not point in misery comparison contest. I have an experience of fighting and ousting a corrupt government, I hope you guys will have it too.
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u/Professional_Ant4133 Serbia 14d ago
Keep in mind it's possible to be against Serbia joining the EU - and being pro-Ukraine at the same time.
They're funding and publicly supporting our literally fascist government, we can't be chill about this. I've been a fan of EU for a long time, I still like the idea, but their recent (in)actions have costed them my vote - which can of course change, if they change course.
Thank you for your wishes, I hope we can topple the fucker before more people die - and I hope you get a lasting peace/ceasefire soon, and make your country whole again sooner or later.
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u/Low_Mistake_7748 15d ago
Can someone tl;dr?
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u/electrius 15d ago
Very, and I mean very short version
November last year, a canopy on a renovated train station in Novi Sad fell and killed 16 people. The canopy was old and stable but a shoddy corrput job overloaded it without proper checks and the support cables snapped.
This led to protests, then students blocking universities, strikes, clashes etc that, while calmer some days and fiercer on others, are ongoing till this day. The last couple of days have been especially fierce with clashes between the people and the ruling party's hooligans and thugs (I include the police in this description :) )
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u/satellite779 15d ago
You're forgetting billions of EUR that the Vučić clan stole. His brother is a billionaire and he himself is probably too. Mini-Putin when it comes to corruption.
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u/electrius 15d ago
Don't worry, I'm never forgetting a single thing they did, and I hope my fellow Serbs do the same. I just tried to keep it super brief
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u/Individual_Money_958 15d ago
On November 1st 2024, canopy of a newly renovated station in Novi Sad collapsed, killing 16 people. Renovation of this station was plagued with corruption scandals, and people have been demanding justice since then. No one was arrested to this day, and people have been on the streets for 9 months. It started as peaceful student protests, but lately escalated to violent riots. Aleksandar Vucic, current president and autocrat, has refused to step down or call for snap parliamentary elections, which the people are demanding. He uses criminals and thugs, but also police, as his personal army to attack anyone who is protesting against him. Serbian people are fighting back.
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u/OkTennis1543 Serbia 🇷🇴🇬🇷 15d ago
I dont wat to tldr my everyday life, but you can read here 2024–present Serbian anti-corruption protests - Wikipedia https://share.google/2sgIlpTHFI2j2I5jk
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u/nrliii Serbia 15d ago
Thugs broke into the house and brutally beat the family of a first aid student.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DNY5P7ZMtMu/?igsh=MXdtNDIzeHBtZ3dkZg==
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u/Neglectful_Stranger 13d ago
why is there even a megathread if every 'event and news' gets its own topic? Usually megathreads are to prevent a single topic from overrunning the front page of a sub.
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u/Matematic4reddit 1d ago
Another arson attack on a flower shop - the same one that was already set on fire just 10 days ago. The reason? The owners openly support the students’ struggle.
https://nova.rs/vesti/hronika/pozar-u-cvecari-imela-na-konjarniku-lokal-ciji-vlasnici-podrzavaju-studentsku-borbu-vec-bio-na-udaru-video/
This is far from an isolated case. Anyone who dares to support the protests becomes a target. A bus company that helps transport students has had its buses vandalized multiple times, license plates stolen, the owner attacked in his own yard, and even received threats that his son would be killed. When his (underage) son was arrested for protesting, the man attempted suicide. The only reason he’s still standing is because ordinary people rallied, raised money, and pulled him back from the edge. Despite constant harassment from the police and their goons, he still drives students to protests.
Other small businesses have been smashed up too: a fish shop, a pizzeria, cafés, even a workshop where the owner and his friend were beaten with crowbars. And of course, not a single person has been arrested for any of this. And even if they were, it wouldn’t matter - the president already pardoned the thugs who broke a student’s jaw with clubs, along with others who assaulted protesters.
This is what happens when you live under a regime that protects its own enforcers while punishing anyone who resists.
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u/[deleted] 15d ago edited 15d ago
So far not confirmed by any tangible evidence, but fellow redditors in that city tell us that criminals have started going to families of the students and beating them up. More info will be posted as it comes.
EDIT: They demolished a cafe of people who supported protests which just so happens to be close to the allegedly beaten family. Supposedly a worker there was badly beaten (broken arm and open head wound, no other info so far)
Video of cafe vandalism can be seen here
https://www.reddit.com/r/serbia/comments/1mr9rns/nepoznata_lica_upadaju_i_razvaljuju_kafic_skver/