r/europe • u/soalone34 • 3d ago
News Lindsey Graham Calls for Sanctions on Norway After Major BDS Move
https://newrepublic.com/post/199803/lindsey-graham-sanctions-norway-israel-bds-caterpillar499
u/SinQ_x 3d ago
I thought you wanted free market, no? We choose where our money go and not you
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u/Cool-Protection-4337 3d ago
Not that kind of free market. Their free market is just the ability to be as shitty as possible and still make a profit and escape any accountability for any illegal activities in the process.
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u/Brave_Confidence_278 3d ago
yeah tariffs oppose a free market. what they really want is world domination
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u/activedusk 3d ago
>Senator Lindsey Graham on Thursday threatened to slap tariffs on Norway for its sovereign wealth fund’s decision to divest from an American company reportedly complicit in Israeli human rights abuses in Gaza and the West Bank.
Compared to US starting a trade war while war was at Europe's doorstep, idk, this seems like a joke but fine, go on. Let's see where this goes.
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u/Lost-Letterhead-6615 2d ago
Absolutely it has something to do with the west bank.
They can't even claim khamaas khamaas in WB
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u/berejser These Islands 3d ago
Now there's a man whose assets I would take deep pleasure in being seen frozen.
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u/Long_Pomegranate2469 3d ago
Isn't he guy that gave the warts on his butt the nickname ladybugs?
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u/hectorbrydan 3d ago
He is the guy being blackmailed by the president and Israel. For one thing it's an Open Secret he frequents male escorts, otherwise known as prostitutes. But they probably have Financial crimes and perhaps something darker on him too. The president almost openly bragged about it his first term.
After he made some anti-gay comments and escort wrote like a open letter calling him lady G in all but naming him and was considering going public because of the bullshit Lindsay was saying hypocritically. As reported in Politico I can find link if anyone wants it.
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u/berejser These Islands 3d ago
Imagine getting blackmailed over being gay in an age when you can freely admit to being gay and most people won't bat an eyelid.
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u/quackdaw 2d ago
By now they're blackmailing him over letting himself be blackmailed for being gay.
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u/SwampYankeeDan 2d ago
Good point. Once they get you to start doing nasty shit the importance of the original actions that allowed for the blackmail steadily declines. Its sort of like how criminal organizations start by getting you to do smaller crimes for them and then leverage that into worse and worse ones.
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u/Dot-Slash-Dot 3d ago edited 2d ago
He is the guy being blackmailed by the president and Israel
He is rotten enough that they don't need to blackmail him, he is pulling this shit totally willingly.
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u/hectorbrydan 2d ago
Chicken and egg situation for sure.
But he is responding to the blackmail, you could see it after January 6th he publicly repudiated them and then after it was clear Biden was going to allow executive branch agencies to not enforce the law against a coup attempt behind him with everybody else in the party.
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u/Dot-Slash-Dot 2d ago
Eh, I suspect this was more because he was spooked that his neck was on the line for once.
And once that passed he fell right back into the same behaviour he always had.
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u/Epsilon_Meletis 2d ago
Isn't he guy that gave the warts on his butt the nickname ladybugs?
That was not something I expected to read today. Or, ever.
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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 2d ago
Yes.
I can imagine their faces melting at the idea of being treated as they treat others.
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u/Redditforgoit Spain 3d ago
Visiting America is a privilege. Ah well.
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u/sorE_doG 3d ago
Ditto. Last visit I returned from a couple of weeks road trip in Cali with a ‘Vote for Bernie!’ Yard sign, in the tail end of Obama’s presidency. Won’t go back for the foreseeable future, maybe never. Fcuk Trump, fcuk the oligarchs & fundamentalist christians are the same as all extremists of other religions. Nuts who are an existential threat to the rest of us.
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u/slitchbapper 3d ago edited 2d ago
Shush scumbag. Your boss still wants a Nobel peace prize from Norway, maybe you've forgotten..
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u/LordSkummel 3d ago
Not like he's gonna win that anyways.
Trade wars, Greenland, Canada and beeing a bully diplomatically are all things that will automatically disqualifiy him from getting that prize.
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u/Dinmorerfeit 2d ago
He's a felon, that criminal history already disqualified him according to the foundations requirements.
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u/Full-Being-6154 3d ago
The stupidity of the peace prize commitee cannot be underestimated.
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u/h4v3anic3d4y 2d ago
We WERE planning on giving the Nobel Prize to him actually. But now Lindsey had to run his mouth, so we changed our minds. So close.
Somebody PLEASE make Trump believe that!!!
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u/BlueHeartbeat Realm of Europa 3d ago
This dude has been a bitch for decades, and that's only the time I've known of him, but how is he still listened to?
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u/KFSattmann 3d ago
Lot's of Kompromat on him.
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u/Cool-Protection-4337 3d ago
Lots of dic pics involving his mouth. His voters would still believe whatever faux news tells them, he has been so obviously in the closet for decades yet supposedly a straight white Christian 🙄
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u/sandyWB 3d ago
Every country gets sanctions and tariffs! Except Russia, of course...
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u/butwhywedothis 3d ago
It’s time Europe does tit for tat. If they sanction Europe must sanction them. If they put tariff on Europe, put tariff on them. There is the rest of the world for Europe to explore and do business with.
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u/letsBurnCarthage 3d ago
Norway is not a part of the European Union, though. That doesn't negate what you said, but usually in this climate when people say Europe, they mean the union.
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u/ipakin94 The Netherlands 3d ago
Norway is part of the European Economic Area though, which means that they are part of the European single market. So although tariffs for Norway don't apply to the EU, it will affect the European economy.
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u/butwhywedothis 3d ago
Norway may not be in EU, but still part of Europe. Don’t think Americans can differentiate between EU and Europe. Like their supreme leader says, everything is computer.
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u/GlenGraif 2d ago
They can’t even seem to differentiate between their own country and the rest of North America…
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u/Full-Being-6154 3d ago
Dont matter if the US cant, what matters is if the EU and Norway can, and Norweigians have made sure to let the rest of us know that they'd rather face it alone.
Staying out of the Union has some drawbacks.
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u/Catouw Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur (France) 3d ago
USA Tariffs are a tax on americans, it's not because they shoot themselve in the foot that we have to do the same
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u/butwhywedothis 3d ago
We don’t have to. But putting tariff on American goods may reduce American goods import and therefore Europe will try to find alternate and more cost effective partners.
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u/Brave_Confidence_278 3d ago
Can we just start to ignore them, I literally give zero fucks about what they want. Let them do their tariffs, just reply with some tariffs or service fees back and done
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u/Additional-Year-500 3d ago
Sanctions/ Tarriffs because they chose to sell off stocks? So he doesn't want market economy and prefer communism?
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u/SwampYankeeDan 2d ago
Thats not communism.
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u/Sherool Norway 1d ago edited 1d ago
Indeed, strong government control over the market is a core tenet of Fascism. They don't want a free market, they want a merket directly serving the state.
Fascists often advocate for the establishment of a totalitarian one-party state,\12])\13]) and for a dirigiste economy (a market economy in which the state plays a strong directive role through market interventions), with the principal goal of achieving autarky (national economic self-sufficiency)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Not that government regulating markets is inherently bad, but it's also not automatically communist.
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u/Rogthgar 3d ago
The only reason the weasel is piping up now is because he, or likely one of his donors, are feeling the squeeze.
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u/Professional_Fix4056 Europe 2d ago
oh no, we're going to get all the sanctions anyway when Trump doesn't get the peace prize, kinda like what happened with China and Liu Xiaobo..
Pseudo-democracies and dictatorships don't get along well with the Nordics
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u/Adorable-Database187 The Netherlands 3d ago
As part of an ongoing ethics review meant to root out investments that contribute to Israeli violations of international law, the Norwegian wealth fund announced this week that it would exclude the construction equipment manufacturer Caterpillar. The ethics council concluded, “There is no doubt that Caterpillar’s products are being used to commit extensive and systematic violations of international humanitarian law.” Namely, “Bulldozers manufactured by Caterpillar are being used by Israeli authorities in the widespread unlawful destruction of Palestinian property,” the council found, as the Boycott, Divest, and Sanctions (BDS) movement has long pointed out.
Tldr, country A that is in a trade war with country B is unhappy that country B does not want to finance tools that the vassal of country A uses to commit genocide.
Tldr of the tldr. Just read the article and do a dark chuckle and a tragic headshake like I did.
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u/ChefCurryYumYum 2d ago
In an American political system replete with some of the most corrupted and venal scum of the Earth Lindsey Graham is a special kind of evil. Truly one of America's worst.
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u/DarrensDodgyDenim Norway 2d ago
In all seriousness, the fund should probably reduce exposure to the US. It is not politically stable anymore.
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u/Possible_Golf3180 Latvia 2d ago
If they’re the greatest ally, why doesn’t the US pay for the armoured bulldozers themselves? Could it be that the US is living a life of luxury on another country’s dime?
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u/Toolatethehero3 2d ago
‘Put tariffs on countries that won’t do business with US companies’. And here we have the American approach - threats and demands.
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u/Expensive_Panic_2738 2d ago
Lady G thinking he has power. The sooner the world cuts out the cancer that is America, the better.
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u/ZhouDa United States of America 2d ago
Fuck Lindsey Graham. The irony is I doubt he's even saying this because of Israel, he's more likely saying this because he looked at his stock portfolio and realized he sunk a fair amount into this company. Republicans don't even believe in anything other than self-enrichment.
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u/EinSchurzAufReisen 2d ago edited 2d ago
The USA really did a speed run to most embarrassing country in the world!
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u/Jimbo415650 2d ago
He’s part of the Trump conspiracy to take over Greenland.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-called-out-over-secret-international-spy/
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u/Saarbarbarbar 2d ago
Lindsey Graham is a character from Kids in the Hall and you can't convince me otherwise
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u/QuotableMorceau Europe 3d ago
I really don't get it, how is BDS affecting US, it's people or even it's companies ... if the companies are that great, other investors will immediately buy the dip. I would say it is even a blessing, as it eliminates a foreign majority investor.
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u/Vassukhanni 3d ago
BDS is an existential threat to Israel. They remember what happened to their South African allies once divestment took off.
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u/rwl420 2d ago
“In November 2024, Graham vowed that countries would face draconian sanctions if they complied with the International Criminal Court’s arrest warrants against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for war crimes and crimes against humanity. “If you help the ICC, we’re going to crush the economy,” the senator said at the time. “Because we’re next,” he added. “Why can’t they go after Trump, or any other American president, under this theory?”
😂😂 he said the quiet part out loud.
Of course Graham knows Trump is also a genocidal maniac, he just hasn’t gotten to the waging aggression war yet, but he’s just as bad, and Graham knows it. These are horrible, horrible human beings and when they finally kick the bucket I’ll be opening an expensive bottle of champagne.
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u/TophatOwl_ 3d ago
Fyi norways exports to the US make up around 1% of its total exports. Even if you banned norwegian goods from being sold in the US it wouldnt matter to them
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u/lambaroo 2d ago
norway actually imports about 30% more from the usa than it exports to the usa.
norway also owns about 3% of the total value of the new york stock exchange.
i feel like this really isn't to do with tariffs. the usa have already stated they've considered seizure (ie. outright theft) of norway's investments, for no real reason other than they're up to the necks in debt and for some weird reason they seem to think the rest of the world should pay off an america that has long been living beyond its means. the magats seem to think they can pull off an easy grift of a small nation's well looked after wealth using whatever invented excuse they can muster up. in all honesty, norway should have started divesting from the usa and securing their wealth elsewhere 4 or 5 months ago when the warning signs first appeared.
if nothing else it should reinforce the growing view that the nyse is not a safe place to invest with the current regime in charge.
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u/harryx67 2d ago
Someone who says: “if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us.” is severly corrupted. God has no relevance. Moral has.
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u/Aesirite Norway 2d ago
Graham can fuck off. Sanction us as much as you want, we desperately could use some more anti-american sentiment here. Our political establishment lacks backbone though, so i do fear our prime minister ending up groveling as pathetic as he is.
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u/NightlongCalcite 2d ago
Simple economics people Norway bankrolls Wall Street with a trillion-dollar oil fund, Israel bankrolls Lindsey Graham’s speeches guess which investment America actually needs?
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u/OkoMushroom 2d ago
Americans have lost their collective mind at this point, hideous behavior.
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u/Ironxgal United States of America 2d ago
Not all of us. Some of us are absolutely disgusted and feeling helpless as hell. I hate this so much.
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u/DullFaithlessness82 2d ago
Didn't they just get caught trying espionage with disinformation campaign for their Taco god.
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u/Dragoneer1 2d ago edited 2d ago
careful graham or we pull out of USA completely, noone wants to visit your dump anyways
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u/BarnabusBarbarossa 2d ago
Who cares what he thinks?
No, legitimately, who in the world actually cares what Lindsay Graham thinks? The man changes his opinions like a weathervane. Even the people who voted him into office must realize that his opinions carry no real weight.
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u/ConiferousTurtle 2d ago
How much more evidence do Americans need before they realize how much US policy is influenced by AIPAC?
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u/ruthemook 2d ago
Hahahah. As if they give a shite- worlds wealthiest nation with worlds wealthiest sovereign wealth fund will not give a tupenny about zionist lecturing from some senator from a shithole state in America. Good on Norway.
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u/Ok_Photo_865 2d ago
Why not Lindsey, you Americans have tariffed every other thing you can think of so don’t be surprised when you’re the only one playing with yourself in the corner 🤣😂😂🤣🤣
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u/paradigm_shift2027 2d ago
Lindsey - FYI, Norwegians aren’t rushing to visit the Amerikan Dysfunction Junction your party is creating.
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u/Barrettirrigation 3d ago
The Jewish lobbyist definitely have this cat in the bag…. Crazy to see BB Netanyahu starving Gaza‘s population without US taking action, the Jew’s spend billions to keep our leaders on BB side regardless of his actions. SAD! 2 state solution
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u/satelshawn 3d ago
The absolute hypocrisy is astounding. So what, you hold a gun to everyone’s head and say what US companies others must invest or face consequences? While you place sanctions on other countries for trading with people you don’t want them to trade with? If people weren’t so greedy it’d be great to watch the world divest of every American financial asset and watch them burn.
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u/idkwhattofeelrnthx 3d ago
Maybe he forgot that doing business with American companies is a burden not a privilege. Big words must be hard for him.
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u/Salt_Recipe_8015 2d ago
My question is: is Caterpillar openly doing business with Isreal, like a contract? Or, as the article mentioned, are their products merely being used by the Isrealis? There is a big difference.
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u/djingo_dango 2d ago
This will be fun. On one hand you have a US senator calling for sanctions of a European country which this sub doesn’t like. On the other hand the article mentions BDS which this sub also doesn’t like. Let’s see which one wins
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u/Icy-Artist1888 2d ago
Graham is a tired and unprincipled politician. He is a pedophile enabler. He needs to go.
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u/Workout_inAM 2d ago
The same person who a few years ago said his party had gone bats*it crazy has now joined the shenanigans.
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u/xxiii1800 2d ago
Lol got caught with espionage and trying to deinform People in Greenland. Just shut up and be humble for once
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u/LittleFairyOfDeath Switzerland 2d ago
They really believe this bullshit don’t they? How can one have such a big ego?
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u/War_Fries The Netherlands 2d ago
His former buddy McCain rolled around in his grave so often by now, he dug a whole to the other side of the world.
Lindsey Graham is the most spineless fucktard MAGA Republican around. The weakest of all MAGA. That says a lot.
McCain would puke over this weakling all day long, if he'd still be alive today.
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u/UKAOKyay 2d ago
If you were going to fuck with any country in the world then Norway would definitely not be at the top of the list.
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u/emupower07 2d ago
The Norwegian government will be just fine with them, especially with the Labour government set to be reelected: https://api.omarshehata.me/substack-proxy/articles/jerrettalexander-substack-com-p-notes-on-norway-manualredirect.html
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u/LousyReputation7 1d ago
Fuck this guy. He washes his face in chip fat by the looks of things and i wouldn’t be surprised if he spent his free time firing vegetables up his hole.
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u/keith2366 1d ago
This would be a ridiculous move against Norway, a friend and ally. And what does Israel have on Lindsey?
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u/old_Spivey 1d ago
Intelligence lip readers have discovered that Putin and Xi were mocking and joking about Trump, referring to him as an orange pustule.
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u/Agreeable-Jacket5721 1h ago
Visiting the good parts of America in the current climate is a runners up prize at best. The USA is not what it used to be.
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u/ipakin94 The Netherlands 3d ago
Well, maybe it's time you're made aware that doing business with American companies is a choice, not an obligation.