r/europe 2d ago

News The Queen was a Remainer: her secret views on Brexit revealed

https://www.thetimes.com/article/c2c58bbb-acc3-47f4-8abb-2e525cf80bfb?shareToken=d1c13e783fa7dd36021f48cf693c7018
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u/Chester_roaster 2d ago

I understand the demarcation, it's you that's confusing the former with a binding referendum. Binding referendums can't exist in the UK system because it would have to be predicated on legislation and Parliament can never be bound by legislation 

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u/TheNewHobbes 2d ago

You don't understand the difference.

You can mix sand and salt. That isn't binding because you can separate them again later. You can make toast from bread. That is binding because you can never turn the toast back into bread.

A referendum to do the first is perfectly legal under the UK system. The second is not. If the first passes the government must mix the sand and salt in line with salt and sand mixing bill that passed before the referendum. That doesn't mean they can't separate them at a later date after passing the separation bill in parliament. The government could never pass the toastmaking bill as that couldn't exist under UK law.

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u/Chester_roaster 1d ago edited 1d ago

A referendum to do the first isn't binding, it's not binding because any binding would be predicated on legislation and parliamenti can't be bound by legislation. It isn't mixing sand and salt because the sand and the salt was never mixed, just as Parliamenti was never bound.