The Queen was a Remainer: her secret views on Brexit revealed

[u/wokban]

https://www.thetimes.com/article/c2c58bbb-acc3-47f4-8abb-2e525cf80bfb?shareToken=d1c13e783fa7dd36021f48cf693c7018

[u/jatawis]

European monarchies are among world's most democratic countries.

[u/Jeffreys_therapist → u/jatawis]

If I can't vote for my head of state, it's not a democracy

[u/jatawis → u/Jeffreys_therapist]

Would you also include very parliamentary republics there?

[u/Jeffreys_therapist → u/jatawis]

Which parliamentary republic has an unelected head of state?

[u/jatawis → u/Jeffreys_therapist]

Not directly elected by the citizens. Latvia, Estonia, Germany, etc.

[u/Jeffreys_therapist → u/jatawis]

But still elected through a system that the populice ultimately have a say on

Fail

[u/NowoTone → u/Jeffreys_therapist]

Nope, you simply have no clue, and are just moving the goalposts.

[u/Jeffreys_therapist → u/NowoTone]

Nope, you simply have no clue, and are just moving the goalposts.

When you get up off your knees, you'll find that democracy comes in many forms.

The process whereby a head of state is elected by other elected officials is just another variation, and perfectly legitimate

[u/NowoTone → u/Jeffreys_therapist]

I can’t vote for my head of state either and don’t live in a monarchy. Yet that country scores higher in the democracy index than the USA, which can vote for its head of state.

[u/Jeffreys_therapist → u/NowoTone]

So?

Not all democratic processes are perfect.

Still, it's odd that so many foreigners are arguing in favour of the prohibition of democracy in Britain and part of Ireland, and are instead supporting a family of foreign, Nazi loving sex offenders