r/europe • u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo • 2d ago
News NATO Croatian pilot and his Serb Girlfriend arrested in Croatia for NATO espionage through Srpska Lista for the Serbian Goverment
https://www.euronews.com/2025/08/28/croatian-air-force-pilot-and-partner-arrested-for-alleged-espionage-reports-claim55
u/lndigoChild Kosovo 2d ago
The Serb List party should definitely be classified a terrorist organization, and excluded from the next (and future) elections in Kosovo.
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u/Shot-Life-362 2d ago
Like the last time with the dinar currency, if you do that again EU politicians will come slashing at you for provoking ethnic tensions.
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u/lndigoChild Kosovo 2d ago
The last thing any Albanian politician wants to do is to provoke ethnic tensions. This is exactly what Vucic wants, to present Kosovo as country where Serbs are not safe, and in turn to present himself as the hero of Kosovo Serbs, and thus remain in power to steal his own country. The opposite is true in reality. I have Serb neighbors, and their issues are not ethnic related, but economical, similar to everyone in Kosovo.
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u/zargug2 2d ago
Let's ve honest, they all make ethnic tensions, neither serb nor albanians are peacful and to say one side doesn't do it is just wrong.
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u/lndigoChild Kosovo 2d ago
Can you tell me what does Kosovo benefit from ethnic tensions? Last time with dinar and Serb car plates, Serbs organized riots and Kosovo got sanctions from EU, reprimands, freeze of funds etc. Vucic used the riots to consolidate his negotiating position with EU, got more funds and appeasement. If not for EU support (and from Russia of course) Vucic would be gone by now. You guys can’t remove him from power no matter how hard you try.
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u/zargug2 2d ago
The west, eu, russia all back vucic due to their money invested in him. What does serbia benefit from ethnic tensions? Every so often a kosovar police aressts random kids like few months back at the end of school year they arrested a kid that was walking with a serbian flag lmao. It's people that keep the ethnic tensions not even their presidents. Presidents accuse each other of doing something without any proof but it's the people that are at war with each other keeping it tense there.
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u/lndigoChild Kosovo 2d ago
This is where you are wrong. It’s the politicians who keep up the tensions, because this helps them remain in power. No one else benefits from these tensions, Serbs or Albanians. The tension is not natural, but it is intentionally exercised to be used and displayed when Vucic sees fit. Like that young lad who shouted ethnic slurs in full view of police and media, knowing that he will be arrested. Inciting ethnic tensions is a crime and rightly so. This, of course, became national news in Serbia, and you only consumed the manufactured story that was intended in the first place.
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u/zargug2 2d ago
You're actually wrong lmao cuz i saw 3 different full vids and in none of the he shouted ethnic slurs, what else, why was no one arrested from the caffe where they shouted albanian slurs? It's been clear for few years now who holds more power in kosovo and who does whatever they want. Let's not pretend anymore. And no, i don't consume our news and paper due to their crazy amount of propaganda and media war against anyone who doesn't agree with them, but what i did read is made up stories of that bot saying how he is a part of a nationalistic gang and such lmao.
Once again i ask you, what does serbia benefit from ethnic tensions in kosovo? And no, even without media, tensions are high amoung people who are itching for a fight or a problem with each other, dunno if you've been there but i was i got family there lol.
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 2d ago
Children don’t know better. That is why we have to educate the younger generation to be more tolerant, and isolation in the north of Kosovo does not do that.
What does Serbia gain? Only an argument for a full attack on Kosovo in the name of ethnic tensions ( hello Russia’s playbook with russian minorities in Ukraine?)
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u/zargug2 1d ago
Hello serbia knows damn well that the attack on kosovo results in a nato intervention and a full on war.
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u/BrotherCoa 1d ago
Can you tell me what does Kosovo benefit from ethnic tensions?
How about an opportunity to expel the last Serbs that still leave there so that you can claim entire land area for yourselves? It's not like you missed the chance in 2004.
And let's not pretend that you just wait for a chance to take back southeastern Serbia and the city of Nis.
And then you talk about peace and understanding? There is not going to be that between Serbs and Albanians, not now and not in 1000 years.
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 1d ago
Yes we will be there. When we are together in EU and there are no borders and cooperation exists and peace.
Unless you decide to fuck it up and go all crazy crazy.
Stop this bullshit.
Stop the count!
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u/Zumbul_Aga 2d ago
Hmmmm how convenient it is that you want to exclude the only party that represents the Serbian minority in Kosovo...
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u/lndigoChild Kosovo 2d ago
Regardless of the party, Serbs have permanent seats in the National Assembly. The seats will not be replaced with Albanian or other minorities, but with Serb representatives from other Serb parties.
To add more context, Serb List officials get elected with 200-300 votes, meaning a very low turnout from Serb electorate. Other Serb party candidates are bullied, intimidated, have their property burned, or killed by the Serb terrorist organization. The only thing SLP represents is the interest of the criminal elites of Belgrade and Vucic’s mafia clan.
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u/Zumbul_Aga 2d ago
I completely agree with that, but that is something we in Serbia need to resolve. Vucic will only get another party to replace it. It would not be a good move from a PR perspective to ban the biggest minority party in Kosovo rn, no matter how corrupted it is.
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u/lndigoChild Kosovo 2d ago
I know that won’t change anything at all in reality, but it is one small step towards progress. It will be a bad thing for Kosovo in short run, but a good thing for the future. Serbs in Kosovo need to be able to choose who they want to elect as representatives, with no interference from anyone else.
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u/Zumbul_Aga 2d ago
That is unrealistic, there will always be influence from Serbia. The most optimal situation is for someone other from Vucic to be elected. (hopefully 2027.)
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u/Pjeter_Bogdani Kosovo 2d ago
Is there really no hope for you guys to kick vucic out now?
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u/Zumbul_Aga 2d ago
Well no, the election can only be iniciated by him as the president, and the next regular elections are in 2027. We are hoping for him to call for early elections and there are some signs he might do it but we are not sure.
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u/Pjeter_Bogdani Kosovo 2d ago
Quite unfortunate tbh. Another question, how dependable is the vote counting in Serbia? Is it counted well, or is it also balkanic? Lol
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u/Zumbul_Aga 2d ago
Oh absolutely balkanic. But we are already preparing for a serious conflict to defend the will of the people
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 2d ago
IndigoChild is right on this point. No matter what political party is present, 10 seats are always guaranteed for Serb minority, and constituional changes can only be done with 2/3 of minorities, meaning 10 are Serb nationality, the other 10 are Turkish, Bosnian, Romani, Egyptian and so on.
In the end if we want constitutional changes for anything, nothing can be done without the approval of Serb minorities.
Look at it in this context: 95% of people are Albanian, but they can’t do jack shit with the constitution without approval and cooperation of 3%. So power to the few. If that is not democracy, i don’t know what is.
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u/BrotherCoa 1d ago
If you do not like that fact (which really is insane, that 3% decides for 95%) why not change the constitution and get rid of that part? Just give that 10 places to other minorities and do not include Serbs at all. I am sure EU and US will not say anything since you are the majority in the country and have their full support since 1999.
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 1d ago
You cant change the constitution without minority support. That is the compromise we did for independence.
But i have a different viewpoint. I believe Kosovo should be a bridge to promote cooperation between Albania and Serbia. Perhaps a international UN sponsored building, the same as Geneva in Prishtina. That sounds right.
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u/capracucinciiezi 🇪🇺 💙💛♥️ 🇪🇺 2d ago
Good. Unfortunately Serbia isn't a reliable country anymore.
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u/Severe_Reception1 2d ago
Anymore? Hasn't been for the past 40 years if we're being modest, century and a half if we're being realistic.
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u/Daniel-MP Spaniard in Poland 3h ago
The only time in serbian statehood it has been reliable was when they had a croatian communist dictator watching over them
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u/Porodicnostablo I posted the Nazi spoon 2d ago
century and a half if we're being realistic.
a disgusting comment with a disgusting number of upvotes... but, please, r/europe, downvote away
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u/Severe_Reception1 2d ago edited 2d ago
150 years ago idea of a greater Serbia was made.
40 years ago, Serbia invaded my country and a few other and took away countless lives.
...and you wanna play victim? Lol.
Edit: good to know zumbul aga is alt of porodicni stablo. Blocked the guy, comes with his alt, makes a reply and blocks me back.
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u/Zumbul_Aga 2d ago
Ah ok nvm a Balkaner wrote this comment. Now it makes sense why you failed to mention that literally every country in the Balkans had a "greater ____" idea at some point: Croatia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Albania... Nationalism is a regional trait, not a Serbian one.
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u/postnamasti Serbia 2d ago
The idiots downvoting you probably never even heard of it lmao, but everyone thinks they know better than the people who actually live in the Balkans.
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u/Zumbul_Aga 2d ago
Shhh don't tell them about Ustashe or why the second Balkan war was started!
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u/Ok_Detail_1 Croatia 1d ago
Bevause massacres of Albanians, Bosniaks and Croars. Also disrespecting them.
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u/zargug2 2d ago
So we are actively ignoring every single other greater country plan?
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u/vllaznia35 Albania 2d ago
Yes it was Greater Slovenia that provoked the death of Yugoslavia and lost 4 wars in a row. Those darn Slovenians
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u/DownvoteEvangelist 🇷🇸 Serbia 2d ago
You prefer Ottoman Empire?
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 2d ago
I prefer we all live in peace and cooperation. Western Balkans for EU! 🇪🇺
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u/DownvoteEvangelist 🇷🇸 Serbia 2d ago
Dude literally said we haven't been reliable since Ottomans. 🤷♂️
I'd also like to see peace and unity in the Balkans...
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 2d ago
Communism got out the worst in you. It is never late to change.
It happened with nearly all countries who underwent communism. It just is what it is. Turkey is just as important. You can notice their role in Serbia and Kosovo and BiH.
But for BiH, i would like the citizens themselves to talk about it. Not me.
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u/DownvoteEvangelist 🇷🇸 Serbia 2d ago
I think we were worse to Kosovo Albanians before and after communism... But the original statement I replied to was a lot more broader...
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 2d ago
I understand what you mean.
Thank you for accepting. This facilitates the process of healing.
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u/zargug2 2d ago
He's not the only one that needs accepting
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 2d ago
Serbia carries the legacy of the crimes that happened in Ex - Yugoslavia for our situation.
You cannot equalize the aggressor with the victim.
One side had MIG Airplanes, howitzers, tanks, and the most state of the art weaponry while the other side had weapons such as kalashnikovs in minimal numbers.
The war is the reason why more than 1 million Albanians from Kosovo live spread out all around European and North American countries because you can’t fight tanks and jet planes with pitchforks and babies.
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u/MintCathexis 2d ago
Ottoman Empire was unironically better for most if not all ethnicities in the Balkans than Greater Serbian Hegemony in Yugoslavia I, and after Tito in Yugoslavia II.
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u/DownvoteEvangelist 🇷🇸 Serbia 1d ago
That's very hard to compare, those countries lasted very short compared to Ottoman Empire and existed in completely different time periods... (operating in completely different moral environment)..
Like none of countries in which Serbia existed after Ottoman Empire ever had blood tax, or used impalement as a form of execution but is this fair comparison considering that we are comparing 17th century county with 19th/20th century?
Also compared to the countries in the region ,during those 150 years of History how much Serbia stands out?
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u/MintCathexis 1d ago
It stands out quite a lot in a negative sense for very good reasons. I know you don't like to hear it, I know you won't agree, I know you've been taught that Serbs are perpetual victims since your earliest years, but it's the truth. There's a reason Serbia has beef and violent history within the last 150 years with just about everyone it shares a border with, and it's not that everyone simply hates "the God's chosen people, the Serbs". In many aspects, Serbia is like Israel of the Balkans except for technological achievements. Only fitting that it signed yet another deal with Elbit recently, while most everyone else is trying to steer clear of Israeli weapons firms.
And yes, even with all that you described, Ottoman Empire was still miles better (incidentally both for the Balkans and for what later became British Mandate for Palestine), it's not even close.
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u/DownvoteEvangelist 🇷🇸 Serbia 1d ago
I don't subscribe to that bullshit, Serbs are not God's chosen people and certainly have their fair share of blood on their hands.. But they are not some "evil race" that have been plaguing Balkans for 150 years... That's pure racism...
You could easily argue that any Balkan country has violent history with almost every neighbor..
Just for the record I'm not even fully Serbian, my dad was a member of ethnic minority...
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u/Ok_Detail_1 Croatia 1d ago
Well not Croatia. Croats wete oeacefully with Hungarians for 800 years before they meet rasusts Serbs eho pissed them off in 20 years and join Communists (and ustase).
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u/MintCathexis 2d ago
Official numbers from Jasenovac Memorial Museum itself are 120,000. Still a great number of people who on their own deserve to be remembered, but I can't fail to notice that the number of victims of Jasenovac, according to Serbian government, has skyrocketed in the last decade. At one point, it was 300,000, then 500,000, now 700,000.
I think it's offensive to everyone who died at Jasenovac and other concentration camps to basically say, "You are not enough, we have to invent 7 other people for each and every one of you".
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u/Monterenbas 2d ago
What’s a NATO croatian pilot?
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 2d ago edited 2d ago
It’s a soldier who is enrolled in the Kosovo security force international program which is supported by NATO. A special peacekeeping force, just like EUFOR is in BiH. They do rotations.
Austria has soldiers as well. So does Spain, Ukraine, Moldova, Germany, Greece, Turkey, Albania, Romania, France, UK, US, and many more. It’s NATO fully cooperating with different nationalities from different borders.
Edit: the biggest defense training in Europe, “Defender Europe” is annually held in Kosovo to train NATO soldiers from different backgrounds.
In the beginning, Russia was part of it as well, but due to their hostile approach in 1999 by capturing Prishtina Airport, the US in cooperation with NATO kicked them out ( thank God!)
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u/lndigoChild Kosovo 2d ago
A person who flies military airplanes, whose nationality is Croatian, which is a member country of NATO military alliance.
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u/woowow339274 1d ago
Albanian propaganda lol
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 1d ago
They were not arrested in Kosovo. They were arrested in Croatia.
If you want to call it propaganda, call it croatian propaganda.
But it is not propaganda. Facts. Milan Radojcic’s crew.
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u/woowow339274 1d ago
So why albanian posts about serbian gurl and croatian guy, arrested in croatia?
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 1d ago
Because the espionage happened per goverment orders from Serbian Goverment aka BIA for north of Kosovo, the spying was there.
Kosovo had absolutely no idea what was happening and frankly am disappointed that they didn’t know. If an Albanian did that, he should go to jail as well.
If we resolve our conflicts and you accept us, no borders, no war, nothing, trust me people will live in peace.
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u/woowow339274 1d ago
You wanted borders.
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 1d ago
And it’s good we have borders. But we don’t want war. We want peace. Western Balkans for EU 🇪🇺
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u/AccordingToe2485 Kosovo 2d ago edited 2d ago
TLDR:
A Croatian Air Force pilot and his Serbian girlfriend from Mitrovica, Kosovo were arrested on accusations of espionage, allegedly for passing classified information on KFOR peacekeeping movements and the situation in northern Kosovo to Belgrade over a span of three years (2022–2025) .
• While the pilot has denied wrongdoing—claiming he’s being framed, and that his partner is essentially “collateral damage”—Croatian authorities insist the evidence is serious enough to warrant charges .
• The Kosovo acting government has emphasized that her alleged espionage activities did not involve access to sensitive information from the Prime Minister’s Office, stating that such access is highly restricted and composed of trusted staff, and they reject any claim she had access to confidential data .
• Kosovo’s institutions also reaffirm that Serbia’s intelligence efforts have been steadily increasing, especially following reduced control in northern Kosovo. Since early 2025, Kosovo’s security forces have already arrested several individuals of Serbian ethnicity suspected of espionage, suggesting this case is part of a broader pattern .
• Kosovo institutions have expressed their readiness to fully cooperate with Croatian authorities, as the alleged espionage occurred within Kosovo’s territory, showing proactive engagement and vigilance on the part of Kosovo’s security apparatus
Edit: Milan Radojcic, who is the head terrorist of the Banjska terrorist attack was the leader of the Srpska Lista before he left to Serbia, and now that goon and his people are terrorizing students in the student protest in Serbia with masks together with football hooligans. The movement is controlled by Alexander Vucic, the dictator of Serbia, which threatened local Serbs in deciding for their own fate, undermining their right to vote and choose their own politicians. He was a parlamentary member of Kosovo, even considered by Albanians as the third substitute prime minister of Kosovo for some time, but after Banjska, all that stopped.